2016 675LT Spider v 2021 720S spider
Discussion
So I've done my 30 years and looking to retire shortly with a sum of money I can commute from my pension ti buy a supercar.
With a £200k + budget im set on getting a McLaren as I dont particularly like the current porsche, lamborghini or ferrari offerings.
Question is for spirited (within the law ) Road driving on twisty A and B roads which of the above 2 is likely to be the best.
Its a 3rd car for summer weekends only , im not interested in track days, I like an involving drive and dont want to lose a fortune.
Whats the view on newer standard model v older limited rawer track special ?
Opinions for and against welcome as a friend has advised me to consider the 675LT
With a £200k + budget im set on getting a McLaren as I dont particularly like the current porsche, lamborghini or ferrari offerings.
Question is for spirited (within the law ) Road driving on twisty A and B roads which of the above 2 is likely to be the best.
Its a 3rd car for summer weekends only , im not interested in track days, I like an involving drive and dont want to lose a fortune.
Whats the view on newer standard model v older limited rawer track special ?
Opinions for and against welcome as a friend has advised me to consider the 675LT
Maybe you answered it somewhere else but if you do not want to do track days might a 570 not work for you and save a hundred grand ? A couple of descriptions here have suggested the 720 is almost too fast for road use anyway - for a more exclusive version of the 570 there's always the 600
I don’t think a 720 at £200k and not loosing a lot go together.
Look at year old prices.
The 720 is bloody bloody bloody fast. Really fancy one next but am slightly concerned that it is too fast. On paper a 570 isn’t that much slower but might be less licence losing.
The 570 is also a lot cheaper.
Look at year old prices.
The 720 is bloody bloody bloody fast. Really fancy one next but am slightly concerned that it is too fast. On paper a 570 isn’t that much slower but might be less licence losing.
The 570 is also a lot cheaper.
Isn't the 570 S more of a sports car ?
I've waited for this moment for 30 yrs and the capital outlay isn't the issue but I have my hear set on a super car.
Some are saying the 720S is more hyper car but suoercar money which sounds good to me.
I know ultimately I will have to drive them all but that easier said than done.
I've seen 1 year old 720S spiders that have already lost £70k off list so surely that's a good buy versus a 5 Yr old car ?
I've waited for this moment for 30 yrs and the capital outlay isn't the issue but I have my hear set on a super car.
Some are saying the 720S is more hyper car but suoercar money which sounds good to me.
I know ultimately I will have to drive them all but that easier said than done.
I've seen 1 year old 720S spiders that have already lost £70k off list so surely that's a good buy versus a 5 Yr old car ?
Fezzamania said:
Isn't the 570 S more of a sports car ?
I've waited for this moment for 30 yrs and the capital outlay isn't the issue but I have my hear set on a super car.
Some are saying the 720S is more hyper car but suoercar money which sounds good to me.
I know ultimately I will have to drive them all but that easier said than done.
I've seen 1 year old 720S spiders that have already lost £70k off list so surely that's a good buy versus a 5 Yr old car ?
I can’t help you with first hand experience - 2 comments on value I've waited for this moment for 30 yrs and the capital outlay isn't the issue but I have my hear set on a super car.
Some are saying the 720S is more hyper car but suoercar money which sounds good to me.
I know ultimately I will have to drive them all but that easier said than done.
I've seen 1 year old 720S spiders that have already lost £70k off list so surely that's a good buy versus a 5 Yr old car ?
- 675 is the first LT I think and will likely always be the rarest standard LT (others will correct me if wrong)
- to judge 720 prices, look at the 650 over time as a proxy imo
Whenever I think about a McLaren - I flip flop between a 600LT and a 675LT
Good luck - I am sure both are exciting cars
Must admit the 675LT looks the sexiest of the McLaren range but 720S looks a lot more modern and the tech seems another step up as well.
I love the electrochromatic glass roof but just wonder would it get used much if I only drive the car in the dry.
No point paying for technology like the wife's Air scarf in the merc slk that doesn't really add to the driving experience IMHO
I love the electrochromatic glass roof but just wonder would it get used much if I only drive the car in the dry.
No point paying for technology like the wife's Air scarf in the merc slk that doesn't really add to the driving experience IMHO
I've considered the same choice and have very similar criteria. Informed opinion suggests that the 675LT may be the better bet financially. It's further down the depreciation curve, limited edition and very well regarded, but...
The 720s spider is the newer car, better in almost all tangible ways (apart from sound) and probably better to drive in most situations on the road. The glacially slow nose lift and awful turning circle might make the LT hard to live with and if things start to go wrong, parts are going to be especially ruinous.
It will however, be more exciting I think.
As you may have guessed I haven't made my mind up either. Yet to drive a 675LT.
The 720s spider is the newer car, better in almost all tangible ways (apart from sound) and probably better to drive in most situations on the road. The glacially slow nose lift and awful turning circle might make the LT hard to live with and if things start to go wrong, parts are going to be especially ruinous.
It will however, be more exciting I think.
As you may have guessed I haven't made my mind up either. Yet to drive a 675LT.
I think once you get to 600+ bhp more power or speed becomes secondary on a public road.
I enjoy lighter cars in terms of feel and handing and thats what is appealing about Mclarens.
Porsches and Lamborghinis are really heavy these days at 1700kgs in some cases.
Is the lift system quicker in the 720S then ?
The roof opens/closes slightly quicker from what I've seen on you tube but thats hardly a major issue.
A quicker lift system would help you from coming to a stop and holding up traffic
I enjoy lighter cars in terms of feel and handing and thats what is appealing about Mclarens.
Porsches and Lamborghinis are really heavy these days at 1700kgs in some cases.
Is the lift system quicker in the 720S then ?
The roof opens/closes slightly quicker from what I've seen on you tube but thats hardly a major issue.
A quicker lift system would help you from coming to a stop and holding up traffic
600LT Spider all day long. Will retain value over the medium term as reasonably limited production run, truly amazing to drive, raw driving experience as in solid engine mounts/noise/theatre, slightly smaller than a 720 so better on B roads.
Depends what you want from the car and only you can decide but drive them all and then you'll know. I can only pass on the experience of my 600, I've not driven either of the other two and not fussed if I ever do, neither will be any better.
I've done 7.5k in 15 months been pretty much faultless apart from a door lock issue.
If you want a slightly softer driving experience go for a 570 spider, the Sports Series are just that bit smaller for our back roads.
Depends what you want from the car and only you can decide but drive them all and then you'll know. I can only pass on the experience of my 600, I've not driven either of the other two and not fussed if I ever do, neither will be any better.
I've done 7.5k in 15 months been pretty much faultless apart from a door lock issue.
If you want a slightly softer driving experience go for a 570 spider, the Sports Series are just that bit smaller for our back roads.
Fezzamania said:
I think once you get to 600+ bhp more power or speed becomes secondary on a public road.
I enjoy lighter cars in terms of feel and handing and thats what is appealing about Mclarens.
Porsches and Lamborghinis are really heavy these days at 1700kgs in some cases.
Is the lift system quicker in the 720S then ?
The roof opens/closes slightly quicker from what I've seen on you tube but thats hardly a major issue.
A quicker lift system would help you from coming to a stop and holding up traffic
Yes the lift on the 720 is a simple and fast push button affair. I've seen the system demonstrated on the 675LT and it's a two/three stage system and takes what seems like for ever.I enjoy lighter cars in terms of feel and handing and thats what is appealing about Mclarens.
Porsches and Lamborghinis are really heavy these days at 1700kgs in some cases.
Is the lift system quicker in the 720S then ?
The roof opens/closes slightly quicker from what I've seen on you tube but thats hardly a major issue.
A quicker lift system would help you from coming to a stop and holding up traffic
Hadn't considered 600LT spider TBH but with it being a sport series car and not strictly limited I'm not sure it will fair as well as a 675LT longer term.
From reading on here there were some crazy PCP finance deals to shift the volumes they had built and a load of those cars will be hitting the market after being handed back next year.
I want to buy this summer ideally but the only 600KT spider advertised is up at £176k when they were as low as £150k earlier this year even.
If I was to decide on a 600LT spider I think I would wait until 2022 now and pick up cheaper car from a wider choice.
TBH looking at the classifieds at the mo there isn't much choice of any of the McLaren models
From reading on here there were some crazy PCP finance deals to shift the volumes they had built and a load of those cars will be hitting the market after being handed back next year.
I want to buy this summer ideally but the only 600KT spider advertised is up at £176k when they were as low as £150k earlier this year even.
If I was to decide on a 600LT spider I think I would wait until 2022 now and pick up cheaper car from a wider choice.
TBH looking at the classifieds at the mo there isn't much choice of any of the McLaren models
If you buy anything now you will be buying at a peak. Next year things will return to normal imho.
I bought a bog standard 991.2 carrera t last week and I’ve not even collected it. I can already sell it for more then what I’m paying.
I wanted a gt3 but they’ve gone up by 20k in the last 4 months. That won’t last and they will fall again (hopefully) I just ordered a new lambo because a used one was effectively the same price. Just have to wait for it to arrive.
Also, ignore the whole sports series thing. They are all supercars!
I bought a bog standard 991.2 carrera t last week and I’ve not even collected it. I can already sell it for more then what I’m paying.
I wanted a gt3 but they’ve gone up by 20k in the last 4 months. That won’t last and they will fall again (hopefully) I just ordered a new lambo because a used one was effectively the same price. Just have to wait for it to arrive.
Also, ignore the whole sports series thing. They are all supercars!
You certainly do need to drive whatever model you are considering and preferably close together for comparison. Also best to consider what type of driving you intend doing.
My first foray into Mclaren was a 570s TP, a real nice car but not really suited to spirited track work, although excellent on road.
Replaced it with a 600LT, which was a great track car, looked great but imo was too close on road to other hardcore track/road cars I have. Needed a bit more bhp on larger circuits, so had a stage 1 but even though I loved its looks and more particularly its track manners I hankered after a Super Series.
Tried a 675LT, really wanted to like it. In Napier Green and good spec, but monocoque 1 isn’t a patch on the 2 and just looked long and thin. Never tried it on track which I imagine it’s best suited to, quite noisy and after trying a 720s with the superior 4.0 engine went in that direction. Fully get why folks like 675’s but doesn’t do it for me.
Having said all this I use the 720s more as a road car which imo is far Superior to the 600 and 675 so this is possibly your best choice from your description. But if I only had 1 car for combined road and track a 600LT with a few mods is the sweet spot,
My first foray into Mclaren was a 570s TP, a real nice car but not really suited to spirited track work, although excellent on road.
Replaced it with a 600LT, which was a great track car, looked great but imo was too close on road to other hardcore track/road cars I have. Needed a bit more bhp on larger circuits, so had a stage 1 but even though I loved its looks and more particularly its track manners I hankered after a Super Series.
Tried a 675LT, really wanted to like it. In Napier Green and good spec, but monocoque 1 isn’t a patch on the 2 and just looked long and thin. Never tried it on track which I imagine it’s best suited to, quite noisy and after trying a 720s with the superior 4.0 engine went in that direction. Fully get why folks like 675’s but doesn’t do it for me.
Having said all this I use the 720s more as a road car which imo is far Superior to the 600 and 675 so this is possibly your best choice from your description. But if I only had 1 car for combined road and track a 600LT with a few mods is the sweet spot,
Edited by Rocketreid on Saturday 15th May 22:03
Agree all used supercar prices seem strong at the mo apart from nearly new 720S spiders which is the bit I cant get my head around.
They seem a relative bargain so will they go up,hold firm or crash and burn.
Maybe less of them being built compared to early coupes is strengthening their residuals after the initial hit
They seem a relative bargain so will they go up,hold firm or crash and burn.
Maybe less of them being built compared to early coupes is strengthening their residuals after the initial hit
Fezzamania said:
Agree all used supercar prices seem strong at the mo apart from nearly new 720S spiders which is the bit I cant get my head around.
They seem a relative bargain so will they go up,hold firm or crash and burn.
Maybe less of them being built compared to early coupes is strengthening their residuals after the initial hit
There are great deals to be had on nee stock 720s Spyder if there are any left. If you’re keeping it for a long time then depreciation doesn’t really matter. But running costs will and warranty will be a lot cheaper on a nee car than a 7 year 675They seem a relative bargain so will they go up,hold firm or crash and burn.
Maybe less of them being built compared to early coupes is strengthening their residuals after the initial hit
A couple of internal questions you need to ask yourself,
is it a car that will never be sold ? (In which case the depreciation doesn't matter, buy what you really want from your choices)
If it is going to be sold after a year or two once the itch is scratched the older car's servicing and warranty costs need to be compared with the likely depreciation of the newer car (some man maths may be required)
As others have said try to drive them, personally I'd go for a 600 or 675 LT as I like the 'McLaren' styled headlights and prefer the rear lights on the LT over the 650 S grill style, if it was a 720 it would have to be black for me to take the focus off the front light sockets, I just keep seeing the Space 1999 Eagle space ships from my childhood (especially the white and green ones
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is it a car that will never be sold ? (In which case the depreciation doesn't matter, buy what you really want from your choices)
If it is going to be sold after a year or two once the itch is scratched the older car's servicing and warranty costs need to be compared with the likely depreciation of the newer car (some man maths may be required)
As others have said try to drive them, personally I'd go for a 600 or 675 LT as I like the 'McLaren' styled headlights and prefer the rear lights on the LT over the 650 S grill style, if it was a 720 it would have to be black for me to take the focus off the front light sockets, I just keep seeing the Space 1999 Eagle space ships from my childhood (especially the white and green ones
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