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Long been an Italian car driver, and will remain so, but want to try a Mclaren. Long been impressed with write ups, and now time to take the plunge.
600 LT looks just what I would like . What are the key things to have option wise ? I don't need any comment on reliability/dealers etc, I have read all of that, but any advice on the 600 LT warmly received. I also hear there are some good purchasing deals to be had, again any pointers please. Thanks
600 LT looks just what I would like . What are the key things to have option wise ? I don't need any comment on reliability/dealers etc, I have read all of that, but any advice on the 600 LT warmly received. I also hear there are some good purchasing deals to be had, again any pointers please. Thanks
Hello.
600LT owner here, also admin for the 600LT Owners Whatsapp Group.
Pick yours, they’re all fantastic cars.
Just make sure you have P1 seats or Senna ones and Carbon pack 1 and 2 as minimum. Trofeo R tyres are a struggle on cold temps and wet, very track biased. P-Zero are ok for road use if you don’t want to lose your driving license.
But really nothing else to say.
600LT owner here, also admin for the 600LT Owners Whatsapp Group.
Pick yours, they’re all fantastic cars.
Just make sure you have P1 seats or Senna ones and Carbon pack 1 and 2 as minimum. Trofeo R tyres are a struggle on cold temps and wet, very track biased. P-Zero are ok for road use if you don’t want to lose your driving license.
But really nothing else to say.
Edited by RBT0 on Wednesday 16th September 20:43
For primarily road use I went for:
Spider, P1 seats (touring size), electric steering column (helps getting in/out), Bowers and Wilkins stereo, axle lift (essential for speed bumps and ramps), interior carbon upgrade.
External visual carbon is nice but purely cosmetic as the parts are carbon fibre anyway, just painted grey.
Trofeos great for summer and track. PZ4s or PS4Ss better for winter. Best have two sets.
Spider, P1 seats (touring size), electric steering column (helps getting in/out), Bowers and Wilkins stereo, axle lift (essential for speed bumps and ramps), interior carbon upgrade.
External visual carbon is nice but purely cosmetic as the parts are carbon fibre anyway, just painted grey.
Trofeos great for summer and track. PZ4s or PS4Ss better for winter. Best have two sets.
Aim for the Spider to get the full on exhaust noise experience although the coupe with a lowering back window is nearly as epic.
I believe they all come fairly well spec'd if they are new stock cars, not sure how many new left now or if the deals are still around. Seems my local dealer's promoting a good deal on the GT so maybe 600LT's could be harder to find.
There's a cracking 20 plate car on Collecting cars, could end up at a tempting price.
Be prepared to love driving again when you get one.
I believe they all come fairly well spec'd if they are new stock cars, not sure how many new left now or if the deals are still around. Seems my local dealer's promoting a good deal on the GT so maybe 600LT's could be harder to find.
There's a cracking 20 plate car on Collecting cars, could end up at a tempting price.
Be prepared to love driving again when you get one.
RBT0 said:
Hello.
600LT owner here, also admin for the 600LT Owners Whatsapp Group.
Pick yours, they’re all fantastic cars.
Just make sure you have P1 seats or Senna ones and Carbon pack 1 and 2 as minimum. Trofeo R tyres are a struggle on cold temps and wet, very track biased. P-Zero are ok for road use if you don’t want to lose your driving license.
But really nothing else to say.
Thanks, the seats and carbon packs were items I thought were important. 600LT owner here, also admin for the 600LT Owners Whatsapp Group.
Pick yours, they’re all fantastic cars.
Just make sure you have P1 seats or Senna ones and Carbon pack 1 and 2 as minimum. Trofeo R tyres are a struggle on cold temps and wet, very track biased. P-Zero are ok for road use if you don’t want to lose your driving license.
But really nothing else to say.
Edited by RBT0 on Wednesday 16th September 20:43
May I ask why the 600LT?
Do you own Challenge Stradale/Scud/Speciale/Pista or Lotus?
The car is pretty raw, with stiff engine mounts which transfer engine vibrations to the cabin or even rr deck lid.
Once above 30mph and 3000rpm, it all becomes a visceral engagement with the machine, but be aware at low rpm and speed car is pretty raw. I love it, overall I haven’t had many complaining.
I don’t see it as daily and I struggle to recommend it as such.
Do you own Challenge Stradale/Scud/Speciale/Pista or Lotus?
The car is pretty raw, with stiff engine mounts which transfer engine vibrations to the cabin or even rr deck lid.
Once above 30mph and 3000rpm, it all becomes a visceral engagement with the machine, but be aware at low rpm and speed car is pretty raw. I love it, overall I haven’t had many complaining.
I don’t see it as daily and I struggle to recommend it as such.
600lt is a truly awesome drivers car and most have a pretty good spec by default.
As others have said the vehicle lift is essential but I think all have this even though it’s an option. The spider adds more theatre as the rear window can be dropped and that would be my essential option.
I’ve had a 570 with b&W audio and my 600lt has this. I thought it was essential but to be honest on the 600lt I find I spend more time with the roof down or rear window down so if you go this route then I wouldn’t worry which audio option the car has.
Electric steering column is very nice to have as it also has comfort entry.
Good luck with the search
As others have said the vehicle lift is essential but I think all have this even though it’s an option. The spider adds more theatre as the rear window can be dropped and that would be my essential option.
I’ve had a 570 with b&W audio and my 600lt has this. I thought it was essential but to be honest on the 600lt I find I spend more time with the roof down or rear window down so if you go this route then I wouldn’t worry which audio option the car has.
Electric steering column is very nice to have as it also has comfort entry.
Good luck with the search
P1 CF seats are great, but be careful which size you choose. If you are of the ‘wider’ frame, I’d advise on speccing the touring size.
The P1 drivers seat has three positions (passenger is fixed). The factory default is quite a laid back recline, which may be OK for the lankier drivers amongst us. The middle setting is for us normal height drivers. The settings are fixed by bolts which can be a bugger to change. In the 720S, it requires the whole seat to be removed.
The P1 drivers seat has three positions (passenger is fixed). The factory default is quite a laid back recline, which may be OK for the lankier drivers amongst us. The middle setting is for us normal height drivers. The settings are fixed by bolts which can be a bugger to change. In the 720S, it requires the whole seat to be removed.
RBT0 said:
May I ask why the 600LT?
Do you own Challenge Stradale/Scud/Speciale/Pista or Lotus?
The car is pretty raw, with stiff engine mounts which transfer engine vibrations to the cabin or even rr deck lid.
Once above 30mph and 3000rpm, it all becomes a visceral engagement with the machine, but be aware at low rpm and speed car is pretty raw. I love it, overall I haven’t had many complaining.
I don’t see it as daily and I struggle to recommend it as such.
Yes have had/have all of those (bar Lotus) , was looking for something raw, but not like a Senna that is too much a full on track car, so would not consider the new R for same reason. I like the dimensions of the 600 LT and prefer the looks to the 720 S (which are still quite good mind) . It would be a get up at the crack of dawn car and driven over country A/B roads. I would not track it or use on motorway commutes. Do you own Challenge Stradale/Scud/Speciale/Pista or Lotus?
The car is pretty raw, with stiff engine mounts which transfer engine vibrations to the cabin or even rr deck lid.
Once above 30mph and 3000rpm, it all becomes a visceral engagement with the machine, but be aware at low rpm and speed car is pretty raw. I love it, overall I haven’t had many complaining.
I don’t see it as daily and I struggle to recommend it as such.
montpellier said:
RBT0 said:
May I ask why the 600LT?
Do you own Challenge Stradale/Scud/Speciale/Pista or Lotus?
The car is pretty raw, with stiff engine mounts which transfer engine vibrations to the cabin or even rr deck lid.
Once above 30mph and 3000rpm, it all becomes a visceral engagement with the machine, but be aware at low rpm and speed car is pretty raw. I love it, overall I haven’t had many complaining.
I don’t see it as daily and I struggle to recommend it as such.
Yes have had/have all of those (bar Lotus) , was looking for something raw, but not like a Senna that is too much a full on track car, so would not consider the new R for same reason. I like the dimensions of the 600 LT and prefer the looks to the 720 S (which are still quite good mind) . It would be a get up at the crack of dawn car and driven over country A/B roads. I would not track it or use on motorway commutes. Do you own Challenge Stradale/Scud/Speciale/Pista or Lotus?
The car is pretty raw, with stiff engine mounts which transfer engine vibrations to the cabin or even rr deck lid.
Once above 30mph and 3000rpm, it all becomes a visceral engagement with the machine, but be aware at low rpm and speed car is pretty raw. I love it, overall I haven’t had many complaining.
I don’t see it as daily and I struggle to recommend it as such.
I was in McLaren Glasgow today.
2 LTs in the showroom new; 1 coupe, 1 spider, and at least 3 used others outside, all for sale.
Not good for exclusivity.
Essential items i feel, are stuff like right colour, solid spec with as much carbon as possible, wing louvres and lift; seats are about what you will be happy sitting in for long hours, not about resale or what others think.
I am just under 6'2" and 103kg.
So for my size, Senna seats would be ruled out straight away and the P1s marginally better; they had one with electric sports seats in alcantara which would be the ones for me, as they were almost as mega comfy as the 650 spider seats and no hassle of getting in and out.
I was in to collect my car from a service and also went mob handed with my other half and one third of the kids to convince them about a very special 720 spider as next car, but rather strangely have come away with us all thinking about a 600LT spider instead.
Didn't see that coming at all.
Just concerned about the volume made, the amount still at dealers for sale and what happens to values when all the 2 year deal cars are returned in around 13months or so.
2 LTs in the showroom new; 1 coupe, 1 spider, and at least 3 used others outside, all for sale.
Not good for exclusivity.
Essential items i feel, are stuff like right colour, solid spec with as much carbon as possible, wing louvres and lift; seats are about what you will be happy sitting in for long hours, not about resale or what others think.
I am just under 6'2" and 103kg.
So for my size, Senna seats would be ruled out straight away and the P1s marginally better; they had one with electric sports seats in alcantara which would be the ones for me, as they were almost as mega comfy as the 650 spider seats and no hassle of getting in and out.
I was in to collect my car from a service and also went mob handed with my other half and one third of the kids to convince them about a very special 720 spider as next car, but rather strangely have come away with us all thinking about a 600LT spider instead.
Didn't see that coming at all.
Just concerned about the volume made, the amount still at dealers for sale and what happens to values when all the 2 year deal cars are returned in around 13months or so.
650spider said:
I was in McLaren Glasgow today.
2 LTs in the showroom new; 1 coupe, 1 spider, and at least 3 used others outside, all for sale.
Not good for exclusivity
Just concerned about the volume made, the amount still at dealers for sale and what happens to values when all the 2 year deal cars are returned in around 13months or so.
I've seen loads at dealers. I think most are pre registered now.2 LTs in the showroom new; 1 coupe, 1 spider, and at least 3 used others outside, all for sale.
Not good for exclusivity
Just concerned about the volume made, the amount still at dealers for sale and what happens to values when all the 2 year deal cars are returned in around 13months or so.
Not being a limited car Mclaren must of really cranked up the volume of these cars.
They weren't making 570 S couoe or spider at the end they were just churning out more and more 600LTs.
There has got to be 3,000 of these worldwide from the numbers i've seen here in UK which has to be 350 - 400 cars hence why the residuals have crashed and burned.
Cracking car so such a shame they made too many
WilliamWaiver said:
650spider said:
I was in McLaren Glasgow today.
2 LTs in the showroom new; 1 coupe, 1 spider, and at least 3 used others outside, all for sale.
Not good for exclusivity
Just concerned about the volume made, the amount still at dealers for sale and what happens to values when all the 2 year deal cars are returned in around 13months or so.
I've seen loads at dealers. I think most are pre registered now.2 LTs in the showroom new; 1 coupe, 1 spider, and at least 3 used others outside, all for sale.
Not good for exclusivity
Just concerned about the volume made, the amount still at dealers for sale and what happens to values when all the 2 year deal cars are returned in around 13months or so.
Not being a limited car Mclaren must of really cranked up the volume of these cars.
They weren't making 570 S couoe or spider at the end they were just churning out more and more 600LTs.
There has got to be 3,000 of these worldwide from the numbers i've seen here in UK which has to be 350 - 400 cars hence why the residuals have crashed and burned.
Cracking car so such a shame they made too many
What i will say though, it us amazing how you can change opinions in just 12 months.
A year ago i was pretty convinced a 675 spider would be the next Mac, however, yesterday with a stunning blue 600lt spider right next to Parks own £500k+ crazy spec full carbon bodied 675LT spider, the 675 just paled into the background.
The 600LT spider just looked so utterly purposeful from every angle.
Last year I thought it was maybe just trying too hard.
As I mentioned, it pushed the car that we were planning on doing a deal on in early spring to the side, even though it is a one off in the UK of that spec and colour.
650spider said:
The 2 in the showroom were brand new unregistered; both fully, fully optioned though, with the napier spider having P1s and the red coupe having Sennas hence why i could make an accurate call for what someone of my height, build and weight would not be comfortable in on a decent length trip.
What i will say though, it us amazing how you can change opinions in just 12 months.
A year ago i was pretty convinced a 675 spider would be the next Mac, however, yesterday with a stunning blue 600lt spider right next to Parks own £500k+ crazy spec full carbon bodied 675LT spider, the 675 just paled into the background.
The 600LT spider just looked so utterly purposeful from every angle.
Last year I thought it was maybe just trying too hard.
As I mentioned, it pushed the car that we were planning on doing a deal on in early spring to the side, even though it is a one off in the UK of that spec and colour.
Opinions do change over time but the 675LT as the original limited LT will always be a classic IMHO.What i will say though, it us amazing how you can change opinions in just 12 months.
A year ago i was pretty convinced a 675 spider would be the next Mac, however, yesterday with a stunning blue 600lt spider right next to Parks own £500k+ crazy spec full carbon bodied 675LT spider, the 675 just paled into the background.
The 600LT spider just looked so utterly purposeful from every angle.
Last year I thought it was maybe just trying too hard.
As I mentioned, it pushed the car that we were planning on doing a deal on in early spring to the side, even though it is a one off in the UK of that spec and colour.
I absolutely hated the 720S when it came out but over time its grown on me despite the headlights, but I think its familiarity more than anything.
Like you I definitely think the 600LT looks like its trying too hard and a bit of a Halfords special. The only angle on the 600LT I prefer over the 675LT is the rear end because of the more modern light treatment and of course the massive diffuser but overall for me the 675LT has far purer lines and is a more choesive design overall. I do agree though that the 600LT is more aggressive in its looks.
Personally I don't think there is a car out there that makes a 675LT pale into the background and of course I presume you are only making that comment on looks alone. Don't forget a 675LT has expensive banned F1 technology of active aero and hydraulic suspension which for me is a major selling point over any other supercar
Of course if McLaren were to gift me a 600LT spider I wouldn't refuse and at todays bargain basement prices I think they are a far better car than the price suggests but as suggested by the prices ( a 4 yr old car worth £50k more than a 1 yr old car ) the 675LT is still the better car with a cult following which if anything will see prices rise long term.
Looks like McLaren are going to repeat the error of the ways with the 600LT by producing far too many 765LT s as well with 1530 worlwide thats a 53% increase in numbers over the 675LT and something I dont think the brand can sustain in this current market. My 765LT spider order is looking more dubious by the day as even if I dont find a 675LT spider beforehand I think I'm more likely to wait and buy a used 765LT at a greatly reduced price. Don't see the point of throwing away a £100k from list price to be the first registered keeper.
McLarens are great cars but there marketing and remarketing is absolutely s
t3WilliamWaiver said:
I think I'm more likely to wait and buy a used 765LT at a greatly reduced price. Don't see the point of throwing away a £100k from list price to be the first registered keeper.
That would be to buy a car built to your exact specification which noone else has played with, abused, adored, something people who can afford these cars actually really enjoy, for people who can't really afford them there is the used market which is fine but stop endlessly waving your willy when it's obviously not as big as you think it is 
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