650S Spider - track day

650S Spider - track day

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shabster

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90 posts

125 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Hi folks

I pick up my 2016 650S Spider in a weeks time.

End of April I've been invited to a track day at longwood test studios. It's not competitive, and we'll be guided by pace cars.

I've not done a "proper" track day in anything before - wondering if there are tips fellow 650S owners can share.

things I've gleaned from reading here and MclarenLife:

1) should be in track mode so as not to cook the brakes. (Is this wise in terms of control ?)
2) don't stay on the track too long
3) don't put the handbrake on (use the override) when you come off as discs will be scorchio.

Questions
1) there is a break in period - assuming I should get these miles done beforehand.
2) whilst looking forward to, paranoid about wrecking my brand new car. Any advice ? Am I being over cautious if I'm careful around the track ?

Cheers all
Matt

k20erham

373 posts

133 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Hi Matt,

There is no need for any running in/ bedding in it's all done before the cars are built, the brakes are bench bedded in prior to fitment and the engines are dyno run and bedded prior to fitting, the whole car is then rolling road run at the factory and they then have a really good "shake down" road test drive prior to release to the dealer.
They are good to use as you wish and as they are intended. If you can pay for a mclaren experienced instructor, his input will truly enhance your car and your abilities no end.

V8FSI

99 posts

106 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Matt

When you get the car you need to get into the UK McLaren owners group on Facebook, there are track specialists on there who can provide all the answers and more advice than you can shake a stick at. 77 others are already on there.

Email mclarenownersuk@gmail.com and introduce yourself with details of your car.


BTW where is longwood test studios??


br d

8,604 posts

233 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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k20erham said:
Hi Matt,

There is no need for any running in/ bedding in it's all done before the cars are built, the brakes are bench bedded in prior to fitment and the engines are dyno run and bedded prior to fitting, the whole car is then rolling road run at the factory and they then have a really good "shake down" road test drive prior to release to the dealer.
They are good to use as you wish and as they are intended. If you can pay for a mclaren experienced instructor, his input will truly enhance your car and your abilities no end.
Disagree. I was told to do at least a 600 mile run in by Mclaren, the engine is pre-bedded but the brakes and drive train aren't.
I did 900 miles before I put the car in Track and pushed it.

isaldiri

20,221 posts

175 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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If you are not used to tracking cars of the sort of power/weight, I would strongly advise staying in sport handling. Track means very very little esc safety net on the 650, far less than on the 12c and Mclaren on their performance courses and track test drives now by and large will not put the 650 into track mode anymore. Make sure you do a full cooling lap and do not engage the parking brake when back in the pits.

You probably should do some sort of run in (mainly varying revs and not staying at constant revs for an extended time plus not labouring the engine) just to make sure everything works on the car and get used to it yourself but after the first few tanks of fuel, as long as the car is fully warmed up, it will not really be an issue imo.

johnnyreggae

2,998 posts

167 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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OP may be referring to the Auto Italia day at Longross which sounds like a relatively low key day possibly even behind pace car so very low strain on car but a good opportunity to learn it

shabster

Original Poster:

90 posts

125 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Yes, it's the AutoItalia day at Longcross (not Longwood as I mentioned in OP)

It will have pace cars

Dblue

3,266 posts

207 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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br d said:
k20erham said:
Hi Matt,

There is no need for any running in/ bedding in it's all done before the cars are built, the brakes are bench bedded in prior to fitment and the engines are dyno run and bedded prior to fitting, the whole car is then rolling road run at the factory and they then have a really good "shake down" road test drive prior to release to the dealer.
They are good to use as you wish and as they are intended. If you can pay for a mclaren experienced instructor, his input will truly enhance your car and your abilities no end.
Disagree. I was told to do at least a 600 mile run in by Mclaren, the engine is pre-bedded but the brakes and drive train aren't.
I did 900 miles before I put the car in Track and pushed it.
Agree with Brad on this one. Yes they are bench run and yes there is a short road test but there's a world of difference between running without ancillaries and load on a bench and real world running.
No extended high revs no high loads in high gears and low revs and plenty of variation a very good idea for the first 5-600 miles. Personally I'd change the oil after 1,000 miles as well.

Zadkiel

390 posts

153 months

Tuesday 5th April 2016
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I don't have a McLaren but have taken a few nice cars round the track and it seems like you are on the right... track.

It's always best to give a car a little bit of run in time before hardcore track work. Whether it is truely necessary seems to have conflicting advice but if you can give is some miles first why not?

As for track mode as I novice I'd say sport would seem to make more sense, will leave that to the McLaren pros though.

Leaving the handbrake off is always good practice, if you can pop into an auto parts store and buy a small wheel chock and take it with you that will come in very handy. You'd be amazed how often you see un-manned cars going walk-about in the pits and it is not a good lock. Most likely where-ever you park up will have a slight slope so the car will tend to move that way, figure out which way it is and hop and out and chuck the chock down.

The good thing about the McLaren is that it is designed to go fast so none of this will be particularly straining on it so I would worry too much, it just always good to be nice to it where you can. Cool down laps are your friend. I'd say you will be fine.

The most important advice I think for a track day first timer is build up speed slowly! There is always one or two idiots who go out and try and set a flying lap on their first or second time around the track, it never ends well. Just get a feel for things and go faster as your confidence builds and you will be all good.

Bobo W

773 posts

259 months

Tuesday 5th April 2016
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Slightly O/T but there was a 650 being pedalled at a particularly brisk pace at Goodwood on Saturday at what I assume was on open pit lane event.

Anjum

1,605 posts

291 months

Tuesday 5th April 2016
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br d said:
Disagree. I was told to do at least a 600 mile run in by Mclaren, the engine is pre-bedded but the brakes and drive train aren't.
I did 900 miles before I put the car in Track and pushed it.
+1 - Agreed. I would also add that the components may be independently run in - but there are a lot of components which need to bed in with each other. If your car is new - the tyres will need to be scrubbed in, as well as brake/brake pads - and the gearbox too!