Time between Coupe and Spider.

[anonymous-user]

Hi Chaps,

Does anyone know what the time between the models was for 12C and 650S?

I'm just wondering what the timescale would likely be for the 540/570 Spider.

Thanks
Gary

[mb1]

garyhun said:

Hi Chaps,

Does anyone know what the time between the models was for 12C and 650S?

I'm just wondering what the timescale would likely be for the 540/570 Spider.

Thanks
Gary

I cannot remember but I think it will be longer this time around as they struggled selling coupes after the spiders came out.....so I think they will sell as may coupes as they can first before launching the spiders.
Even if the audience for this car is different and might very well have 2 distinct pools of customers for coupes and spiders.

[anonymous-user]

mb1 said:

I cannot remember but I think it will be longer this time around as they struggled selling coupes after the spiders came out.....so I think they will sell as may coupes as they can first before launching the spiders.
Even if the audience for this car is different and might very well have 2 distinct pools of customers for coupes and spiders.

Thanks for that.

I suppose as a 52 year old balding bugger, a Coupe would be more appropriate anyway

[isaldiri]

12c spiders a year after the coupe, 650 coupe and spider released at the same time.

[anonymous-user]

isaldiri said:

12c spiders a year after the coupe, 650 coupe and spider released at the same time.

Thanks.

[br d]

It's this thing about the performance being identical that puts the nail in the coupes coffin I think.
I wanted a coupe, never owned a soft top car before because there was always a dip in the performance of the Spider, but when you realise the Mclarens are equally brutal in either form it's pretty hard to resist!

[SELON]

The coupe/convertible question is interesting with these cars. I'm not fussed about convertible cars in general and usually put off by the compromises...but obviously not with the 12c/650.

Is it strange that there are more coupes for sale than spiders given the relative (I think) sales numbers between them?

Not that there are that many for sale at all!

[mb1]

SELON said:

The coupe/convertible question is interesting with these cars. I'm not fussed about convertible cars in general and usually put off by the compromises...but obviously not with the 12c/650.

Is it strange that there are more coupes for sale than spiders given the relative (I think) sales numbers between them?

Not that there are that many for sale at all!

With the 12C/650s, it is nice to be able to choose what float your boat without much compromise.
For example, I prefer coupes from an aesthetic, stiffness vs weight (I know it is similar) and wind noise. And i don't like driving the top down, so no need or interest in a spider.

There might have been more coupe then spiders 12C made given the time between the two and the fact that the 650 came rapidely shortly after the 12C spider ? But it is definitely the other way around with the 650.

Interesting point about the amount cars up for sale. If you remove the LHD cars, there are only 3 650s for sale ! That should strengthen their value now (now you can jump GRB )

[SELON]

To be fair not many 12Cs around either that fit the bill for me. Sports exhaust/lifting gear seem to be essentials for me...apart from the other points like colour/carbon bits. Plus I've yet to see a single one on the road (apart from my own test drive!). I'm reduced to watching Shmee's exploits on YouTube - and as fun and well made as they are, it's no substitute for the real thing!

Get the perfect spec for you Gary and that's all that matters I reckon, that's one of the benefits of buying new.

[isaldiri]

SELON said:

To be fair not many 12Cs around either that fit the bill for me. Sports exhaust/lifting gear seem to be essentials for me...apart from the other points like colour/carbon bits. Plus I've yet to see a single one on the road (apart from my own test drive!). I'm reduced to watching Shmee's exploits on YouTube - and as fun and well made as they are, it's no substitute for the real thing!

Get the perfect spec for you Gary and that's all that matters I reckon, that's one of the benefits of buying new.

On a 12C I would be very surprised if you really need the front lifter (650s are a bit different to be fair). sports exhaust can be retrofit easily enough as well as part of a deal to buy a car if from an official dealer I am very sure...

[mrloudly]

garyhun said:

mb1 said:

I cannot remember but I think it will be longer this time around as they struggled selling coupes after the spiders came out.....so I think they will sell as may coupes as they can first before launching the spiders.
Even if the audience for this car is different and might very well have 2 distinct pools of customers for coupes and spiders.

Thanks for that.

I suppose as a 52 year old balding bugger, a Coupe would be more appropriate anyway

No it's not

[GlynnsportRacing]

mb1 said:

With the 12C/650s, it is nice to be able to choose what float your boat without much compromise.
For example, I prefer coupes from an aesthetic, stiffness vs weight (I know it is similar) and wind noise. And i don't like driving the top down, so no need or interest in a spider.

I'm with you on that, with 650's I prefer the lines of the coupe to the spider. Doubt the fact that its 40kg lighter will make any difference on the road. I have a couple of convertibles & its really rare that I put the top down unless I happen to be in a speed restricted area .

[SELON]

isaldiri said:

On a 12C I would be very surprised if you really need the front lifter (650s are a bit different to be fair). sports exhaust can be retrofit easily enough as well as part of a deal to buy a car if from an official dealer I am very sure...

My current car - Aston Virage struggles to get up and down the driveway without scraping the bottom. Have to go super-slo-mo. Just figured that the 12C/650S would be that bit lower.

[mb1]

SELON said:

My current car - Aston Virage struggles to get up and down the driveway without scraping the bottom. Have to go super-slo-mo. Just figured that the 12C/650S would be that bit lower.

I used to "kiss" the road or speed bumps with my previous V12V where I don't with the 12C.
The issue with the 12C is the curved strakes behind the front wheel that can touch on sudden or short speed bumps.

[mrloudly]

mb1 said:

SELON said:

My current car - Aston Virage struggles to get up and down the driveway without scraping the bottom. Have to go super-slo-mo. Just figured that the 12C/650S would be that bit lower.

I used to "kiss" the road or speed bumps with my previous V12V where I don't with the 12C.
The issue with the 12C is the curved strakes behind the front wheel that can touch on sudden or short speed bumps.

They are designed as sacrificial though. I believe something to do with airflow ;-)

[anonymous-user]

mrloudly said:

garyhun said:

mb1 said:

I cannot remember but I think it will be longer this time around as they struggled selling coupes after the spiders came out.....so I think they will sell as may coupes as they can first before launching the spiders.
Even if the audience for this car is different and might very well have 2 distinct pools of customers for coupes and spiders.

Thanks for that.

I suppose as a 52 year old balding bugger, a Coupe would be more appropriate anyway

No it's not

Beanie hat or a number 2?

[SELON]

mrloudly said:

They are designed as sacrificial though. I believe something to do with airflow ;-)

Sounds like I need to reconsider... thanks for the info chaps. All i need is to try it out for size so to speak.

[naboo]

My guess would be a year between the coupe and spider. Given that the 540's been announced now with delivery a year off it's not impossible ther'd be an announcement shortly after the first cars are due for delivery!

[mrloudly]

garyhun said:

mrloudly said:

garyhun said:

mb1 said:

I cannot remember but I think it will be longer this time around as they struggled selling coupes after the spiders came out.....so I think they will sell as may coupes as they can first before launching the spiders.
Even if the audience for this car is different and might very well have 2 distinct pools of customers for coupes and spiders.

Thanks for that.

I suppose as a 52 year old balding bugger, a Coupe would be more appropriate anyway

No it's not

Beanie hat or a number 2?

Number 2, at least my head's got a tan ;-)