12C Updates released
Discussion
GRBF430F1 said:
Forgive my ignorance but what is McLaren doing with all these upgrades to the MP4 12C ?
I think we all know the first cars were flawed and hence the 2013 upgrade. Then there was IRIS II upgrade and now P13 upgrade
Surely this isn't going to help 650S sales ?
I do love this, have you ever driven one of the first cars? The only thing that was "Flawed" was the "Iris" system. Mclaren chose toI think we all know the first cars were flawed and hence the 2013 upgrade. Then there was IRIS II upgrade and now P13 upgrade
Surely this isn't going to help 650S sales ?
engineer it themselves, and sadly it wasn't up to the job. The early cars were overly benign (safe) in their handling, some would call that flawed
I suppose some would call early 911's flawed, generally as they went through a hedge backwards. I know which of the two I'd prefer...
The only real "re-call" up-grade the car has had, was it's power hike from 592 to 616 bhp this made a noticeable difference. Interestingly the original
"flawed" car was only 1.1 seconds slower than the Atom 500 around the Dunsfold track, pretty impressive when you think about it! (I did hear
rumours the Atom was running on cut slicks as well...)
So to re-cap, we're calling a supercar "flawed" because it doesn't want to let you kill yourself whilst "going for it"
Maybe the result of the improved 650S up-grades are adequately displayed in recent events?
Mine's chassis 171. The only real problem I've had, aside from the original "Iris" are fogging rear lights and some minor paintwork damage caused by the rear quarter light trim. Swipe doors are sometimes finicky but they are
cool in equal measure as well. Mclaren Birmingham have always collected and returned the car to sort the problems. To put it into perspective, the R8 V10 Spyder I owned previously, had a lot more issues...
cool in equal measure as well. Mclaren Birmingham have always collected and returned the car to sort the problems. To put it into perspective, the R8 V10 Spyder I owned previously, had a lot more issues...
Edited by mrloudly on Tuesday 24th June 17:58
LukeyLikey said:
I have a later 12C and I'm delighted with it. Very very fast, capable and entertaining. Not what I would call 'flawed'.
The only people who diss these cars are those that have never driven one, epic epic cars, I cant see anything being quicker from A to B in real world conditions.I tried Launch on mine last week with traction off. Fooooooookin hell!
hazy said:
LukeyLikey said:
I have a later 12C and I'm delighted with it. Very very fast, capable and entertaining. Not what I would call 'flawed'.
The only people who diss these cars are those that have never driven one, epic epic cars, I cant see anything being quicker from A to B in real world conditions.I tried Launch on mine last week with traction off. Fooooooookin hell!
Mine now has these 650S updates too, thanks for the brochure link to see it written out. I feel like I should have the camera installed as it's fairly inexpensive all things considered.
mrloudly said:
To put it into perspective, the R8 V10 Spyder I owned previously, had a lot more issues...
Snap. 11k miles down on mine in 5 months and going brilliantly. The R8 Spyder before... not so smooth.picked up my car from mclaren Manchester with the p13 update applied. feels faster and the spoiler function is cool!
gearbox in auto mode seems further improved also, not that I use auto that much mind.
only issue with these cars so far is the crap support from the franchise dealers, rumours that mclaren will be removing these dealers once their own showroom and workshop is open near the factory. if its true I welcome the move.
gearbox in auto mode seems further improved also, not that I use auto that much mind.
only issue with these cars so far is the crap support from the franchise dealers, rumours that mclaren will be removing these dealers once their own showroom and workshop is open near the factory. if its true I welcome the move.
Radders said:
picked up my car from mclaren Manchester with the p13 update applied. feels faster and the spoiler function is cool!
gearbox in auto mode seems further improved also, not that I use auto that much mind.
only issue with these cars so far is the crap support from the franchise dealers, rumours that mclaren will be removing these dealers once their own showroom and workshop is open near the factory. if its true I welcome the move.
P13 isn't out yet so you probably have the 650S wing updates, I believe this is the final factory update for 12C which is no bad thing given how much they've already improved it. gearbox in auto mode seems further improved also, not that I use auto that much mind.
only issue with these cars so far is the crap support from the franchise dealers, rumours that mclaren will be removing these dealers once their own showroom and workshop is open near the factory. if its true I welcome the move.
Surprised you aren't happy with the dealers though, I've had a fantastic experience with both Manchester and London. There's a new showroom and service centre opening in Ascot as part of McLaren London I think. At least the service team are heading from Sevenoaks to Ascot, I'm not sure of the sales side.
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