Change to News, Politics & Economics posting rights
Discussion
Excellent. I agree with this.
Not only will this have an immediate effect on cutting down on the troublemakers and nutcases, it will also weed them out over time. Once they get banned, which most do at some point, they won't just be able to simply create a new account and keep on posting like they do at the moment.
PH has some brilliant non-motoring sub forums, with some amazing contributors, but sadly the last 2-3 years years have really brought out the crazies who have turned NP&E into something of a cesspit, with a generous helping of conspiracy crap on top.
Kudos taking action over it.
But... I think it should be extended to The Lounge as well, as some others have suggested.
As Shirt correctly notes, if you ban them from NP&E, they will just start peddle nonsense in The Lounge. I mean yes, the Lounge is for nonsense, but not that kind of nonsense!
Not only will this have an immediate effect on cutting down on the troublemakers and nutcases, it will also weed them out over time. Once they get banned, which most do at some point, they won't just be able to simply create a new account and keep on posting like they do at the moment.
PH has some brilliant non-motoring sub forums, with some amazing contributors, but sadly the last 2-3 years years have really brought out the crazies who have turned NP&E into something of a cesspit, with a generous helping of conspiracy crap on top.
Kudos taking action over it.
But... I think it should be extended to The Lounge as well, as some others have suggested.
As Shirt correctly notes, if you ban them from NP&E, they will just start peddle nonsense in The Lounge. I mean yes, the Lounge is for nonsense, but not that kind of nonsense!
shirt said:
Oh great. Change the posting rules for np&e and this s
t just moves to the lounge
t just moves to the lounge Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st April 09:48
witteringon said:
Might be a co-incidence but the hitherto fast moving, excellent and informative Ukraine thread appears to have become very slow now?.
Agree completely. The 'Ukraine' thread has been one of the most informative ever on the site (well, in my almost 10 years) and with very few exceptions has proved to be well behaved.
I don't know if I'll be caught in the net but it does seem to set a very high bar for 'membership'.
Captain Raymond Holt said:
I always find it interesting (says a sorry lot about me 
) to look at peoples first posts - I think mine was asking whether a Rover was worth buying! 
Looks like you went in with both boots to the Boris and Europe threads with pretty comprehensive posts, good effort! Although it looks like you might have scared Tuna away, who you were replying to
That's probably true, I can't be bothered checking ) to look at peoples first posts - I think mine was asking whether a Rover was worth buying! Looks like you went in with both boots to the Boris and Europe threads with pretty comprehensive posts, good effort! Although it looks like you might have scared Tuna away, who you were replying to
. However the reason I'd have been on PH would have been because I googled a car issue then happened to read some other posts and got annoyed at Tuna's views on the Northern Ireland Protocol. I like Tuna a lot by the way, we've had our disagreements but he's good for a debate and was the first poster to give me a thought out reply if I remember correctly. Last I remember he was about to get involved in a new startup company, having been there and done the same I can very much believe he's far too busy to post on here now .tumble dryer said:
Agree completely.
The 'Ukraine' thread has been one of the most informative ever on the site (well, in my almost 10 years) and with very few exceptions has proved to be well behaved.
I don't know if I'll be caught in the net but it does seem to set a very high bar for 'membership'.
Agreed. On reflection, the Ukraine thread is the only thread I’ll miss. But I have unsubscribed from the thread as its less fun to read if you can’t (even if only rarely) comment. The 'Ukraine' thread has been one of the most informative ever on the site (well, in my almost 10 years) and with very few exceptions has proved to be well behaved.
I don't know if I'll be caught in the net but it does seem to set a very high bar for 'membership'.
I notice the guy who tried to sneak a politics post into the lounge had a 4 year sock account!
Edited by lizardbrain on Thursday 21st April 12:48
LordGrover said:
8.4L 154 said:
Maybe the answer is
1 year and 1000 non p&p/np&e posts
Or
2 years, no post count requirements
Still arbitrary but at least established accounts are grandfathered in. PH can revisit the policy in 2 years if there's a sudden influx of determined troll accounts springing into life after 2 years dormancy
...
Not a bad idea...1 year and 1000 non p&p/np&e posts
Or
2 years, no post count requirements
Still arbitrary but at least established accounts are grandfathered in. PH can revisit the policy in 2 years if there's a sudden influx of determined troll accounts springing into life after 2 years dormancy
...
Has to be a minimum post count to deter these.
anonymous said:
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There's a football forum?I'll not peek but I can imagine Mos Eisley's probably more reputable. I prefer to stand in local terraces with the smell of chips and cheap cigars and moan about people supporting premiership teams without ever having been to a game
. However, the team I go and support now is adopted as I no longer live where the team I really support play at home. When they play each other I get to be the butt of many jokes.roger.mellie said:
There's a football forum?
I'll not peek but I can imagine Mos Eisley's probably more reputable. I prefer to stand in local terraces with the smell of chips and cheap cigars and moan about people supporting premiership teams without ever having been to a game. However, the team I go and support now is adopted as I no longer live where the team I really support play at home. When they play each other I get to be the butt of many jokes.
There's a football forum, but the wrong code - which is probably a good thing for me. I'll not peek but I can imagine Mos Eisley's probably more reputable. I prefer to stand in local terraces with the smell of chips and cheap cigars and moan about people supporting premiership teams without ever having been to a game
. However, the team I go and support now is adopted as I no longer live where the team I really support play at home. When they play each other I get to be the butt of many jokes.I find it strange that umpires are completely neutral until they're officiating in a match where Geelong is playing, whereupon they become blind to the opposition's obvious fouls while harshly penalising Geelong players for minor accidental incidents.
Johnnytheboy said:
It is a bit weird. If you want to talk about politics and not cars/driving, why join PH? I've never got it.
The one year thing I approve of, but I do think 1000 posts might be a bit steep. 500 maybe?
Really ? All the bickering & sniping that goes off topic seems to come from these types , make it 5000 posts ...The one year thing I approve of, but I do think 1000 posts might be a bit steep. 500 maybe?
Still a good move by mods..
So if I'm reading this right I've got to wait another 6 months and rack up another several-hundred posts elsewhere to be allowed into a thread to which I have already contributed several times without problem, specifically thinking of the Ukraine thread, a topic on which I have shared what I hope to be interesting and useful personal insight and knowledge of the situation? Oh well, not my loss I suppose. Bit of a dragnet fishing approach though isn't it?
I am a car enthusiast and came to this site mainly as it's a brilliant resource for real world experience of the issues with a huge range of cars, but I don't have huge amounts to contribute in that regard as I'm not an experienced "spannerer" so to speak. I like the "what car" threads which crop up regularly, specifically the work-a-day car requirements rather than the supercar stuff, as that's what I'm interested in and I like to suggest left field motors to people which others don't necessarily think of. I'm here to be educated to an extent, and contribute when I have something useful to say, from the knowledge that I do have of cars, motoring and driving - and politics, current affairs etc. I guess the latter is going to have to wait a while now.
I am a car enthusiast and came to this site mainly as it's a brilliant resource for real world experience of the issues with a huge range of cars, but I don't have huge amounts to contribute in that regard as I'm not an experienced "spannerer" so to speak. I like the "what car" threads which crop up regularly, specifically the work-a-day car requirements rather than the supercar stuff, as that's what I'm interested in and I like to suggest left field motors to people which others don't necessarily think of. I'm here to be educated to an extent, and contribute when I have something useful to say, from the knowledge that I do have of cars, motoring and driving - and politics, current affairs etc. I guess the latter is going to have to wait a while now.
lizardbrain said:
It's a bit of a shame. I enjoy reading the car threads whilst I'm visiting, but the main driver to visit is NPE to honest. I mostly post specifically about cars on Tesla motors club (or whatever car specific forum, for what I happen to be driving).
I'm quite unlikely to ever reach a 1000 posts in the motor sections, as quite frankly, the EV section is mostly troll posts and there is rarely any depth to the threads.
Oh well. Nice whilst it lasted. I understand the decision.
Good luck with all your future endeavours!
Sorry to see you shut out of the tent LB - your contributions to the Scottish Independence thread were insightful!I'm quite unlikely to ever reach a 1000 posts in the motor sections, as quite frankly, the EV section is mostly troll posts and there is rarely any depth to the threads.
Oh well. Nice whilst it lasted. I understand the decision.
Good luck with all your future endeavours!
I totally get the reason for the decision, but is the bar maybe set way-too-high and will risk NP&E dying off?
6 months/500 posts would achieve the same result and allow properly established and well behaved posters back into the fray.
Even 3 months/250 posts would be enough to weed-out the repeat-offender trolls?
Johnnytheboy said:
It is a bit weird. If you want to talk about politics and not cars/driving, why join PH? I've never got it.
The one year thing I approve of, but I do think 1000 posts might be a bit steep. 500 maybe?
To be fair, I can totally see the appeal of joining PH even if you have no interest in cars. The sub forums for DIY/Homes, Business, Law, Health, Economics Photography, Watches, and so on are quite literally some of the best on the internet, certainly for UK based users.The one year thing I approve of, but I do think 1000 posts might be a bit steep. 500 maybe?
PH was essentially mocked years ago for becoming 'Dadsnet' but it has been massively successful at that, and threads like 'Expectant Dads' are terrific help groups and a mine of information.
I joined originally to post about cars, and ask car questions, but I almost have zero interest in posting about cars now. 95% of my posts will be homes/business/watches/economics etc.
Gerradi said:
Really ? All the bickering & sniping that goes off topic seems to come from these types , make it 5000 posts ...
Still a good move by mods..
Yes. This is the issue, those sub-forums, especially NP&E, make PH attractive also attract the trolls, nutcases, conspiracy loons, and those with frankly appalling views, and it does need stopping. Still a good move by mods..
The mods are doing the right thing.
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