Huracan or 600LT Advice

[BlackR8]

Hi,

I am on the hunt for a new car, and for me the front runners are Huracan or a 600LT. They both have their own character but I expect both will give the sense of occasion I am seeking.

For the price of a 600LT the Huracans I am seeing are a good few years older. Before the Evo/Technica facelifts does anyone have any advice on whether there were many variations or changes between the 2014 - 2018 year Huracans? do the later cars drive any differently or are more reliable etc?

If anyone has owned both, can you give any info on your experiences and preferences?

[davek_964]

No personal experience but I considered a Hurracan a couple of years ago and my research at the time suggested they were pretty bullet proof. I don't think reliability is a big concern.

I only went (back to) McLaren because I wanted a convertible and decided I couldn't live with a fabric roof on a car that lived outside

[BlackR8]

davek_964 said:

No personal experience but I considered a Hurracan a couple of years ago and my research at the time suggested they were pretty bullet proof. I don't think reliability is a big concern.

I only went (back to) McLaren because I wanted a convertible and decided I couldn't live with a fabric roof on a car that lived outside

Thanks, is there anything that was improved in the Huracan over the years before the Evo came out? I am after a coupe if it is Huracan as like you I am not a fan of the fabric soft tops, whereas with the 600LT I don't mind either due to the hardtop and carbon tub.

[Joe-qxjvt]

Was in a similar position to yourself a few years ago having tried both cars and ultimately decided on the Huracan as the engine and exhaust note were sublime. It's a difficult decision as the 600LT is a fantastic car to drive. I think you'll be very happy in either as occasion car.

When doing my research I couldn't see any major changes from the earlier cars until the performante/Evo were released if you are looking at the LP610-4.

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[Trev450]

Given your user name I'm assuming you currently own an R8. That being the case, then you are in a similar position to where I was around 8 months ago when I was looking to change my R8. The two cars on my list were the Huracan LP-620 and the Ferrari 488 GTB. After much pondering and head scratching I eventially when with the 488. One of the reasons for this is that I felt that the Huracan would not give me a sufficiently different experience to the R8 given the number of components they share. I'm aware that the driving characteristics of the two cars is quite different, but the engine will sound much the same, the switch gear is common as are many other items. I guess it really comes down to how much of a 'change' you require and for me I wanted a completely new experience.

[BlackR8]

Trev450 said:

Given your user name I'm assuming you currently own an R8. That being the case, then you are in a similar position to where I was around 8 months ago when I was looking to change my R8. The two cars on my list were the Huracan LP-620 and the Ferrari 488 GTB. After much pondering and head scratching I eventially when with the 488. One of the reasons for this is that I felt that the Huracan would not give me a sufficiently different experience to the R8 given the number of components they share. I'm aware that the driving characteristics of the two cars is quite different, but the engine will sound much the same, the switch gear is common as are many other items. I guess it really comes down to how much of a 'change' you require and for me I wanted a completely new experience.

You are correct in that I did own an R8 but that was many years ago and it was a V8 gated manual. Still a great car IMO.
I did consider the 488 but was worried that it would lack the drama and noise of a Huracan or even 600LT with its top exit exhausts behind your head. How have you found the transition? I assume you came from a V10 R8 which would be a tough one to follow.

[Trev450]

BlackR8 said:

Trev450 said:

Given your user name I'm assuming you currently own an R8. That being the case, then you are in a similar position to where I was around 8 months ago when I was looking to change my R8. The two cars on my list were the Huracan LP-620 and the Ferrari 488 GTB. After much pondering and head scratching I eventially when with the 488. One of the reasons for this is that I felt that the Huracan would not give me a sufficiently different experience to the R8 given the number of components they share. I'm aware that the driving characteristics of the two cars is quite different, but the engine will sound much the same, the switch gear is common as are many other items. I guess it really comes down to how much of a 'change' you require and for me I wanted a completely new experience.

You are correct in that I did own an R8 but that was many years ago and it was a V8 gated manual. Still a great car IMO.
I did consider the 488 but was worried that it would lack the drama and noise of a Huracan or even 600LT with its top exit exhausts behind your head. How have you found the transition? I assume you came from a V10 R8 which would be a tough one to follow.

In that case most of what I said is irrelevant.

Yes I came from a V10 manual R8 and had owned it for 7 years, which says a lot as to my love of it. The 488 is a different beast altogether which is what I wanted. It will never match the sound of that V10 but that is not to say that it doesn't sound good, because it does, and the performance is outstanding as one would expect. Drama wise, it's a Ferrari, lol, and gets loads of attention, most of which is very positive.

When comparing it to the two cars you are considering, I'm not the best person to comment having never owned either. If, however, the drama of ownership is high on your list of priorities, then I think the 488 would play second fiddle somewhat.

[BlackR8]

Trev450 said:

In that case most of what I said is irrelevant.

Yes I came from a V10 manual R8 and had owned it for 7 years, which says a lot as to my love of it. The 488 is a different beast altogether which is what I wanted. It will never match the sound of that V10 but that is not to say that it doesn't sound good, because it does, and the performance is outstanding as one would expect. Drama wise, it's a Ferrari, lol, and gets loads of attention, most of which is very positive.

When comparing it to the two cars you are considering, I'm not the best person to comment having never owned either. If, however, the drama of ownership is high on your list of priorities, then I think the 488 would play second fiddle somewhat.

Very interesting to hear. The car will only be driven every odd Sunday and maybe a bit more in the summer if time allows, so one of my requirements is that every time it goes out it is a real sense of occasion. So I suspect the 488 may just fall a bit short on that front, although I have no doubt it is probably a very capable and special car.

[Shnozz]

Watching this thread with interest.

The 600LT gets glowing reviews and quite a bit newer for the same money. It feels a bit of a head v heart decision in some ways. And then I start thinking if a 600LT is worth the big chunk extra over the 570S and then go around in another circle.

[Trev450]

BlackR8 said:

Trev450 said:

In that case most of what I said is irrelevant.

Yes I came from a V10 manual R8 and had owned it for 7 years, which says a lot as to my love of it. The 488 is a different beast altogether which is what I wanted. It will never match the sound of that V10 but that is not to say that it doesn't sound good, because it does, and the performance is outstanding as one would expect. Drama wise, it's a Ferrari, lol, and gets loads of attention, most of which is very positive.

When comparing it to the two cars you are considering, I'm not the best person to comment having never owned either. If, however, the drama of ownership is high on your list of priorities, then I think the 488 would play second fiddle somewhat.

Very interesting to hear. The car will only be driven every odd Sunday and maybe a bit more in the summer if time allows, so one of my requirements is that every time it goes out it is a real sense of occasion. So I suspect the 488 may just fall a bit short on that front, although I have no doubt it is probably a very capable and special car.

I don't think you could consider the 488 to be anything other than a sense of occasion and although it's not my intention to start any arguments, imo the Ferrari is possibly a more involving drive than the Huracan and trim and panel fit is certainly better than what I've seen on McLarens. That said, in terms of outright wow factor, your choices probably have the upper hand.

Edited by Trev450 on Monday 20th January 12:29

[Nightmare]

Probably not at all relevant but early hurracans were Very unstable at high speed (I mean we are talking 170+). Have a v scary bit of video somewhere of the impressive level of wandering it did and braking was a bit terrifying to say the least. Made me a bit concerned for stability at lower track relevant speeds

The 600LT is fabulous and if you want drama is def the McLaren to go for. For me though, if you’re driving on mostly UK roads then the 570 is a better experience anyway!

[AndyC_123]

Yep, done the 600lt/Huracan decision myself. What I found was, in my opinion of course:

Styling is subjective, both look cool. Huracan has more presence.

600LT - much better as a drivers car - so precise. More practical, better visability. Spider option is great with a carbon tub and rear window that can drop. Can be bit more subtle if you need it to be.

Huracan - well it's a Lambo. It's load and in your face. Sounds incredible. Starting it in Corsa will make old ladies tut. Not as good handling and ride much "worse".

It comes down to whether you want your driving experience to come from performance and handling, or from people stopping & staring & taking pictures. A lot of the time we all secretly like the attention, but daren't admit it

[Redshed]

I went through the exact same decision around 5 months ago.
My budget went from £115K and ended up around the £145K.

I ended up with a chicane grey 600LT.
Always dreamed of owning a Huracan but for less than £140k I couldn't find anything that had low mileage, was 4 wheel drive and was in good shape.
Might also be due to a lack of patience my side.

The 600LT was not a consideration as I had assumed they were far more expensive but when I jumped from considering a 570 to a 720, I saw I could get a 600LT.

I've had it for 3 months and driven 700 miles already.
I do not regret my purchase and to date it has been flawless unlike my California that would routinely throw warnings.
I get old ladies taking second glances and discerning gentlemen giving me the thumbs up. It is a car the generates appreciation and have not experienced any hate.
The only time something resembling disdain was when i drove through Alderly Edge and some amatuer photographers looked unimpressed it wasn't a limited edition.

The cold start and idle are loud and it bangs on shifts when pushing it but it is not programmed to bang and pop so I would say that the Lambo is most probably more theater. However, this will be one of the only cars I have not modified as it is plenty loud and albeit agricultural, I genuinely like the sound.

I'd assume that either car will probably cost you around £20k in re-sale in 2-3 years.
Neither will be stupid in terms of servicing or warranty.

I'd go with the one that does it the most for you.

[BlackR8]

really interesting to hear peoples thoughts. It is pretty much inline what I was guessing, what I have gathered is that 600LT is a drivers car first and with that comes the drama and sense of occasion, and the Huracan gives you the drama and sense of occasion in spades and whilst capable doesn't hold a candle to the 600LT when it comes to driving dynamics.

[s2000db]

In fairness, you’re comparing a top model against a base model, which is only possible due to the high depreciation that the Mac suffers.
In reality the correct comparison would be to compare the 600LT to the Performante, where the tables are turned totally, with the Perf outperforming the Mac in just about every metric..

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ksdp1gsvosng

I realise that the Perf is more expensive to buy, but I suspect when you factor depreciation into the equation, it’s still a less expensive proposition overall, imo..

[davek_964]

s2000db said:

In fairness, you’re comparing a top model against a base model, which is only possible due to the high depreciation that the Mac suffers.
In reality the correct comparison would be to compare the 600LT to the Performante, where the tables are turned totally, with the Perf outperforming the Mac in just about every metric..

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ksdp1gsvosng

I realise that the Perf is more expensive to buy, but I suspect when you factor depreciation into the equation, it’s still a less expensive proposition overall, imo..

I'm not sure that's entirely true.

Good as they apparently are, 600LT is sports series. "Top" model would be super series - i.e. 675LT, not 600.

[s2000db]

davek_964 said:

s2000db said:

In fairness, you’re comparing a top model against a base model, which is only possible due to the high depreciation that the Mac suffers.
In reality the correct comparison would be to compare the 600LT to the Performante, where the tables are turned totally, with the Perf outperforming the Mac in just about every metric..

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ksdp1gsvosng

I realise that the Perf is more expensive to buy, but I suspect when you factor depreciation into the equation, it’s still a less expensive proposition overall, imo..

I'm not sure that's entirely true.

Good as they apparently are, 600LT is sports series. "Top" model would be super series - i.e. 675LT, not 600.

It’s the top model in the sports series range, the equivalent to a base Huracan would be a 540/570 imo.

[davek_964]

s2000db said:

davek_964 said:

s2000db said:

In fairness, you’re comparing a top model against a base model, which is only possible due to the high depreciation that the Mac suffers.
In reality the correct comparison would be to compare the 600LT to the Performante, where the tables are turned totally, with the Perf outperforming the Mac in just about every metric..

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ksdp1gsvosng

I realise that the Perf is more expensive to buy, but I suspect when you factor depreciation into the equation, it’s still a less expensive proposition overall, imo..

I'm not sure that's entirely true.

Good as they apparently are, 600LT is sports series. "Top" model would be super series - i.e. 675LT, not 600.

It’s the top model in the sports series range, the equivalent to a base Huracan would be a 540/570 imo.

I guess we have to agree to disagree. 600LT and 540 / 570 are different models but in the McLaren lineup, they are in the "base" series.

[BlackR8]

davek_964 said:

I guess we have to agree to disagree. 600LT and 540 / 570 are different models but in the McLaren lineup, they are in the "base" series.

I have always viewed it as the 600LT being comparable to the Speciale/Performante models and the 675/765LT comparable to the likes of an Aventador SV etc.

[PinkHouse]

BlackR8 said:

davek_964 said:

I guess we have to agree to disagree. 600LT and 540 / 570 are different models but in the McLaren lineup, they are in the "base" series.

I have always viewed it as the 600LT being comparable to the Speciale/Performante models and the 675/765LT comparable to the likes of an Aventador SV etc.

And you're right, it's just that some 650 owners can help themselves but to try to talk down anything in the Sports Series