What about a 'base spec' Huracan ?

[zedmtrappe]

How much do you reckon it would affect resale ?

2 reasons for asking:

1) I am still tempted to just go for it with a HP Spyder.... But... being a bit of a tightwad I am struggling with the £20K+ of options that 'should' go with it...

2) My Diablo SV was a euro spec car with pretty much no options ( not that the options list was that long in those days). It had no stereo, no lift system, no adjustable suspension, only half alcantara interior... and yet I loved it all the more for that..(not least because there was less to go wrong) .Seemed more like a purists, stripped-down version ... and it certainly didn't affect desirability when it came time to sell.

So why not the same approach with the Performante?

Would it really be so bad if it had:

Standard / Solid Paint
No lift system* or megneto suspension
no dynamic steering
No 'style package' ... surely £2.5K for a few gloss black items is the biggest p*ss take of them all ?
No Soundsystem ( got used to driving without a radio in the Gallardo because it was so terrible..) - plus surely you don't need a soundsystem with that glorious V10 in your ears?
No parking sensors or rear camera.
No Nav system
Unicolor sportivo alcantara = Standard

I'd stick with the branding, stitching & possibly painted callipers

• to be fair I might also stick with the lift system because it does make for a lot less stress in certain situations..

As above would save nearly £20K and surely it would still be a pretty awesome car... ?

Or am I deluding myself & a car in such a spec would be difficult to move on because these days if a supercar doesn't come fully optioned you've lost 90% of the resale market?

On a related note do you think anybody's ever ordered a completely 'base spec' modern Lambo ..?

[MitchT]

No dynamic steering is a plus point based on literally every review I've read.

[RamboLambo]

A completely basic spec Huracan Performante is going to be difficult to move on and would have to be priced accordingly.
TBH £20k worth of options new are only likely to add £5k used so maybe you would be better off buying a used one when prices have fallen if budget/price is the issue.

The minimum options IMHO are :

Lift
Magneto rheoligical suspension
Sat nav
Branding Package
Front and rear parking sensors

The cheapest Performante currently advertised ( still circa £20k over List Price ) has no lift but other options and its stuck around for quite some time presumably due to the lack of lift

Edited by RamboLambo on Thursday 29th March 21:07

[zedmtrappe]

SydneyBridge said:

Buy it for yourself, how you want it and enjoy it..
sod the next owner

:-) yes that's exactly the answer I would give if someone else asking the question.. but can't escape the fact that this won't be a 'forever' car so need to keep half an eye on resale unfortunately..

MitchT said:

No dynamic steering is a plus point based on literally every review I've read.

Yeah same here..

RamboLambo said:

maybe you would be better off buying a used one when prices have fallen if budget/price is the issue.

No doubt this would probably make more sense (for me) ..... and yet...the lure of a brand new one is compelling!

RamboLambo said:

The minimum options IMHO are :

Lift
Magneto rheoligical suspension
Sat nav
Branding Package

What's the plus on the magneto suspension ? Different ride settings based on driving mode? I wonder what a completely passive setup would be like - optimised for speed so pretty stiff I would guess/hope?

Or is there also a performance advantage with the magneto?

Looking forward to hearing a full report of your recent acquisition at some stage!

[RR50]

I would say go with what you want because you rarely get the full value of options back. It may limit your market a little when you come to sell but mileage, history and colour more important.

The only must have option I would say is front lift. I have to use it a lot otherwise the plastic lip under the spoiler would just get ripped off. I didn't need to use the lift on the LP560 that much but I find the Performante catches the plastic lip under the spoiler even on relatively gentle inclines.

[Sarnie]

RR50 said:

I would say go with what you want because you rarely get the full value of options back.

You may not get any value of the option back................but, someone will want to buy it at some negotiable price...............but an extremely low spec car is highly unlikely to attract any buyers at all, no matter the price.

Low spec is absolutely fine, if you never expect to sell the car...................but if you ever want to sell the car to another person, you absolutely have to think about what they will want, whether it's what you want or not.

[Pioneer]

RR50 said:

I would say go with what you want because you rarely get the full value of options back. It may limit your market a little when you come to sell but mileage, history and colour more important.

The only must have option I would say is front lift. I have to use it a lot otherwise the plastic lip under the spoiler would just get ripped off. I didn't need to use the lift on the LP560 that much but I find the Performante catches the plastic lip under the spoiler even on relatively gentle inclines.

This. At least a handful of people would have the same mindset as you, but no lift may cause real issues for a few. If you did SOR dealer's would have a great time saying how the base spec is perfect and there's no real need for any options except lift. As RR50 said, you'll just be limiting your market place come the time to move it on. I like to have my dd's spec'd up to the hilt but occasional cars like this are just for driving. The extra's are nice but just frills on a car that is built for performance.

Edited by Pioneer on Tuesday 3rd April 14:47

[andrew]

my superleggera is "base" spec plus only the essential lifting gear

genuinely not once in 50k have i wished for any of the superfluous optional tat

if you're worried about resale, then go stick your money in ponzi 911s

but you're not, you're buying YOUR lambo

hth

[X-Box]

Age old dilemma - spec for you, or spec for next guy.

The idea of a budget HP S is kinda difficult, but IMO ..........

- NAV I would leave, but then if you want Bluetooth you need it.

- Park and camera to avoid any costly mishaps.

- Lift

Then Mag suspension ..... you could probably live without, but you may struggle to demo a car and I would want to be 100% sure. Then considering the option will only add 1% to the cost of the car, would you risk it

Edited by X-Box on Friday 30th March 11:17

[zedmtrappe]

X-Box said:

The idea of a budget HP S is kinda difficult,

Edited by X-Box on Friday 30th March 11:17

Sarnie said:

.but an extremely low spec car is highly unlikely to attract any buyers at all, no matter the price.

Yeah I think terms like ‘budget’ and ‘ extremely low spec’ are relative in this case :-)

My feeling being that even completely base spec would be a phenomenal machine!

andrew said:

my superleggera is "base" spec plus only the essential lifting gear

genuinely not once in 50k have i wished for any of the superfluous optional tat

I like that!

X-Box said:

Then Mag suspension ..... you could probably live without, but you may struggle to demo a car and I would want to be 100% sure. Then considering the option will only add 1% to the cost of the car, would you risk it

Edited by X-Box on Friday 30th March 11:17

Good point - though what do you mean by struggle to demo it?


Thanks for your input guys.

Edited by zedmtrappe on Friday 30th March 18:22

[famoussas]

It needs lift without a doubt if nothing else. I scraped mine 3 times before I had gotten it home and none of the previous cars I have had scraped at all.

What RamboLambo has listed is true and accurate for must haves imo.

[X-Box]

zedmtrappe said:

Good point - though what do you mean by struggle to demo it?


Thanks for your input guys.

Edited by zedmtrappe on Friday 30th March 18:22

Just may be difficult to find a demo car with passive suspension.

[hondansx]

I think there are too many Performantes around to scrimp on spec; it will take you forever to sell or you'll just lose the £20k you 'saved'.

Lift is absolutely essential. It's odd, because the ride height is a bit 4x4 for my liking yet I have scraped just going along the road (albeit it will more likely just hit the rubber flaps ahead of the front wheels rather than the actual underneath).

Funnily enough I was chatting to a mate selling a GT3 RS in a PTS colour - absolutely perfect. But because it had no lift, it took 6 months to sell.

[dad_drive]

hondansx said:

I think there are too many Performantes around to scrimp on spec; it will take you forever to sell or you'll just lose the £20k you 'saved'.

Lift is absolutely essential. It's odd, because the ride height is a bit 4x4 for my liking yet I have scraped just going along the road (albeit it will more likely just hit the rubber flaps ahead of the front wheels rather than the actual underneath).

Funnily enough I was chatting to a mate selling a GT3 RS in a PTS colour - absolutely perfect. But because it had no lift, it took 6 months to sell.

Couldn't agree more re: ride height and scraping. I feel the ride height is probably like that to allow for the aero. I have many cars without lift that are fine (for instance my 458 Speciale) but I use the lift in the Performante all the time - I really wouldn't suggest speccing the car without it.

[hondansx]

I can't believe the ride height is because of anything other than aforementioned practical issue of scraping. For underfloor aero (i.e. diffusers) to work properly, the car needs to be on the deck, not high off the ground.

Novitec are launching their lowering spring very shortly (basically, exclusive rights to what H&R manufacture) and I plan to fit them and do back-to-back testing on track.

[theRossatron]

X-Box said:

Age old dilemma - spec for you, or spec for next guy.

The idea of a budget HP S is kinda difficult, but IMO ..........

- NAV I would leave, but then if you want Bluetooth you need it.

- Park and camera to avoid any costly mishaps.

- Lift

Then Mag suspension ..... you could probably live without, but you may struggle to demo a car and I would want to be 100% sure. Then considering the option will only add 1% to the cost of the car, would you risk it

Edited by X-Box on Friday 30th March 11:17

I'd agree with above, optional tat is really optional but the above 3 will probably save you at some point.