Exhaust Upgrade for LP570-4

[Superleg48]

I am sure that this will have been covered in previous threads, but I am going to ask anyway....

Looking to upgrade the exhaust system on my LP570-4 Superleggera. So, I have looked at:

Capristo
Akrapovic
Larini
IPE

There are some clear differentials in terms of price, but what would be the smart choice or have I missed any other options? Objective primarily is to upgrade the exhaust in tandem with a spot of ECU remapping to squeeze more BHP and Torque. I have the remap bit sorted in terms of a source to perform this, but ideally would need to change the exhaust before doing the upgrade to get the most out of the remap.

Advice/experiences please....

Edited by Superleg48 on Wednesday 9th November 16:45

[Craigwww]

I have been thinking about doing this myself, can I ask what the source for remapping is and what increase you can reasonably expect ?

[Superleg48]

Craigwww said:

I have been thinking about doing this myself, can I ask what the source for remapping is and what increase you can reasonably expect ?

I will pm you details of the remapping outfit. The gains are around 24bhp with the standard exhaust but this can be doubled with the right choice of exhaust upgrade as back pressure can be reduced, weight reduced and improved flow achieved. Torque is enhanced too but I don't have a number yet. It will be a custom remap (ECU out) not an off the shelf laptop plug in jobby.

[GameOverMan!]

My LP 570-4 Sl is due to have a Lamborghini Sport exhaust fitted which should be the same as the one on the Super Trofeo. This was mainly because I wanted to keep everything with the original manufacture and purely down to wanting to keep things as standard as possible e.g. it was an option on the car originally.

However, I'd be interested to know what prices you've been quoted on the other exhausts fitted along with exhaust tips. It's never too late for me to change my mind....

[Craigwww]

Superleg48 said:

I will pm you details of the remapping outfit. The gains are around 24bhp with the standard exhaust but this can be doubled with the right choice of exhaust upgrade as back pressure can be reduced, weight reduced and improved flow achieved. Torque is enhanced too but I don't have a number yet. It will be a custom remap (ECU out) not an off the shelf laptop plug in jobby.

Thank you, received the info :-)

[DarrenKMC]

What price have you had for the IPE system?

[Superleg48]

DarrenKMC said:

What price have you had for the IPE system?

Full Options incl. X Pipe, Valvetronic Muffler, Remote and Tips = USD6,500, which sounds very expensive to me for around 24 more BHP. Think that Larini come in at around £2400 or thereabouts...

Just exploring the Super Trofeo option as well with Craig at Pangbourne, but unclear as to the performance enhancements (Have asked the question..)

[GameOverMan!]

Superleg48 said:

Just exploring the Super Trofeo option as well with Craig at Pangbourne, but unclear as to the performance enhancements (Have asked the question..)

From what I've read I don't believe that there's a huge increase in power, maybe around 24Bhp tops.

It's more about a bit more noise and torgue at lower RPM, which will enhance the driving experience. It's not cheap either compared to other systems and it states around 3hrs to fit - I have a quote of £5K fitted.

The official Lambo doc on the Super Trofeo exhausts says:

Maximum sound enhancement: 68.5Db to 82Db at 800 RPM
Power: +4.5% at low RPM
Torque: +4.5% at low RPM
Weight reduction: from 31Kg to 13Kg

If I was after more power then I'd be taking a trip to DMS to have it tweaked and an Akrapovic system fitted.

Just my 2p. Hope it helps.

GoM

[Yipper]

Kreissieg.

Oldschool F1 howl. Japanese design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQwqqvyL0RY&ap...

[Superleg48]

GameOverMan! said:

My LP 570-4 Sl is due to have a Lamborghini Sport exhaust fitted which should be the same as the one on the Super Trofeo. This was mainly because I wanted to keep everything with the original manufacture and purely down to wanting to keep things as standard as possible e.g. it was an option on the car originally.

However, I'd be interested to know what prices you've been quoted on the other exhausts fitted along with exhaust tips. It's never too late for me to change my mind....

After much consideration I think I am going to go for the Super Trofeo Exhaust supplied and fitted by the Dealer. Two reasons, firstly the power gains and weight reduction are on par with most other systems based on the numbers you provided in a later post, which I have also established from my research and it is a genuine OEM upgrade keeping the car more original and uncompromised by aftermarket upgrades (I apologise for being a bit fussy like that) and more importantly any complications / issues arising from the upgrade remain firmly the responsibility of the Dealer.

I am, however, just waiting on one final quote for a Quicksilver system, but for the reasons above it may not change my mind.

I am then getting it remapped and performance tuned to get the best out of the upgrade and overall performance capability, (If that isn't a direct contradiction to keeping it original and uncompromised! lol)so will be posting the dyno results in here once that is done. Stay tuned...if you'll pardon the pun.....

[RamboLambo]

Superleg48 said:

After much consideration I think I am going to go for the Super Trofeo Exhaust supplied and fitted by the Dealer. Two reasons, firstly the power gains and weight reduction are on par with most other systems based on the numbers you provided in a later post, which I have also established from my research and it is a genuine OEM upgrade keeping the car more original and uncompromised by aftermarket upgrades (I apologise for being a bit fussy like that) and more importantly any complications / issues arising from the upgrade remain firmly the responsibility of the Dealer.

I am, however, just waiting on one final quote for a Quicksilver system, but for the reasons above it may not change my mind.

I am then getting it remapped and performance tuned to get the best out of the upgrade and overall performance capability, (If that isn't a direct contradiction to keeping it original and uncompromised! lol)so will be posting the dyno results in here once that is done. Stay tuned...if you'll pardon the pun.....

That does seem very contradictory to remaining OEM. I would of thought a remap alters the car more than a bolt on exhaust system personally.

I would be very wary of buying a car that had been remapped but not put off by a aftermarket exhaust system.

Maybe I am too conservative

[Superleg48]

RamboLambo said:

That does seem very contradictory to remaining OEM. I would of thought a remap alters the car more than a bolt on exhaust system personally.

I would be very wary of buying a car that had been remapped but not put off by a aftermarket exhaust system.

Maybe I am too conservative

I understand your concern. I think though that it is born from the assumption that a remapped car = a car thrashed within an inch of its life. However, I am far too respectful as an owner and a driver to do so (plus I don't actually have the bottle to explore the fringes of the flight envelope even if I wanted to). Also, I think provided the map is done by a reputable outfit that knows the marque and can ensure the limits of what the mechanics can comfortably handle are not exceeded, then imo you can tweak enough to get optimum performance benefit from what is sensibly possible and that compliments the added capability of an exhaust system that works better than stock. Everyone knows manufacturer standard maps do have wiggle room as they have to cope with different climates, fuel quality etc which are not consistent around the world. It is not, for me at least, about how fast I can make it go or how quickly I bounce off the rev limiter in every gear, but enhancing the overall driving experience.

By the way, I would also be upfront with any buyer about work done, not one of these that would not declare it. So buyer would have confidence that they are fully informed about their potential purchase. The car will speak for itself in terms not being a dodgy buy complimented by fully documented history and of course any independent inspection when I come to sell.

Of course could always be returned to standard map prior to sale if buyer preferred. I accept I may have been contradictory, but I know what I meant...software is in my head is slightly different to hardware.

[RamboLambo]

Fair enough, no need to explain your rational to me but as long as you are aware there are some dinosaurs out there like me that might be put off which is clearly not what you want.

I don't think you can half mod a car, its either all or nothing in which case an aftermarket exhaust will not hurt it if its the best exhaust for the car

[Superleg48]

Yep, which is why I am drawn towards Super Trofeo exhaust upgrade.

[Evocator]

Hi SuperLeg

I'm with you on the Super Trofeo exhaust upgrade, it provides the weight reduction and power increase, but also has more provenance than a third party system. I personally think it sounds fantastic too!

I'm a bit torn on the whole third party fitting and remapping though. If I were looking to buy a car that had a dealer exhaust fitted outside of the dealership, I'd be fine with it.

The remap is different though. If they had a factory option sports ECU that could be replaced with the original, I'd be okay with this too. I know you won't be using a back-street mechanic armed with a laptop and an evening course worth of experience in fuel/air ratios, but it sounds a bit too risky for me.

I would be talking to dealers who resell these types of cars and asking them what the potential impact on resale might be. You may be perfectly okay; in which case Rambo and I probably just need a good kick in the vagina!

[Superleg48]

I get the concern I do. As you say I am not using a back street outfit "Super Chips R Us" type outfit, plus I have bought the car for the enjoyment I will get out of it as I intend to use it and keep it for at least 3 years or more, rather than constantly be worrying about what I will get for it when I sell it and will I make money or lose money? (Subject of a separate rant a little while ago! lol). A few well researched and competently applied upgrades and mods will only be a bonus to my enjoyment during my tenure of ownership. Thereafter, I don't care right now, but as I said before, will always have full main dealer history, no expense spared on upkeep and will speak for itself when driven / inspected or whatever.

[GameOverMan!]

I'll be picking my car up with the Super Trofeo exhaust fitted this Thurs/Friday. I'll let you know what the first impressions are.

I'm really hoping there's a decent change in noise otherwise I'm not gonna be too happy... :-)

[topjay]

Which version of supertrofeo exhaust are you getting? There are several, some with silencing and some without. Mostly the factory race cars run with literally just a tube off the cats that splits to twin pipes at the end, no crossover etc, great for top end stuff but probably not a good setup for a road car. Loud though

[RamboLambo]

GameOverMan! said:

I'll be picking my car up with the Super Trofeo exhaust fitted this Thurs/Friday. I'll let you know what the first impressions are.

I'm really hoping there's a decent change in noise otherwise I'm not gonna be too happy... :-)

The standard exhaust is epic so god knows what the ST version is like.
The racing version on the Huracan is fantastic as well

[TerryThomas]

I went for a Larini Clubsport system and I'm very happy with it. Never looked into remapping to suit it though.