54 plate Gallardo

[andybirtles]

Hi

I have just bought a 54 plate Gallardo with manual gearbox. I have 2 questions hopefully some of you guys can help me with. Having never been fortunate enough to own one before its all new to me.

Firstly when braking at slow speed the front brakes sound like when you have just washed it and the first few times you brake it Is cleaning the surface of them. Problem is this happens every time you draw to a halt. All the discs and pads have been changed very recently and look like new... The dealer I have bought it from has it at the moment and says he cant find anything thinking it could be crap trapped in them. Is this a normal sound ? I am very mechanically minded and at first thought maybe the pads were metal on metal as that is the sound..

Secondly when changing gears mainly from 4th to third but more so down from 3rd to 2nd I really have to make a lets say more than firm push to fully engage.. The clutch is also recent.. OR is it simply that's the way they are and I need to get used to it ?

Would really appreciate opinions on this.

Tanks.

[Jasandjules]

No idea, never likely to be able to have one. But I'd like to see a pic of yours!

[andybirtles]

Hi

Jut changed my profile pic which shows it.. Might take up to 15 mins before its loaded on.

[TISPKJ]

Hi and welcome to the dark side apparently ! ive just recently picked mine up.

It can only be discs or pads, had a similar issue with my 360 and found the inside of the discs (ie the bit you cant see) was badly corroded (due in the most to someone washing with a hose and leaving)so that would be my first port of call as it were.

Only other thing could be if someone has fitted sintered race pads if you can even get them which I doubt (we used to use them on the bikes)

[andybirtles]

Hi

Thanks for your reply..

I am going to pop in tomorrow as it is on the ramp with the wheels off so cant see them not spotting the wear especially since they fitted them only a few months ago but interesting maybe that it could be the type of pads. If I have to replace them what can you suggest as I may only cover about 4000 miles this year... Do you have any idea re my other comment on the manual gearchange or is yours an e gear ?

Thanks again.

Andy.

[TISPKJ]

Hi Mate, mines an egear sorry.
My 360 pads had stuck to the disc and pulled off part of it, never seen anything like it, luckily I managed to get them skimmed as they had no wear other than that.

Others will be along tonight to comment, its generally not active here in the day.

[andybirtles]

Thanks again.

I have just been speaking to a specialist who is down south but sadly I am up north. He tells me it could be cheap pads and that the gearchange thing could be clutch bleeding or even cable adjustment.

Thanks again.

Andy.

[4321go]

Congrats! I run a '55 plate manual as my daily driver and have a Westie (XI) in the garage. Great minds, etc. With mine, second can be awkward until warm (just like my 355 of old), but is fine when warm. No untoward pressure needed on the lever, it just baulks a little. My front discs and pads were replaced about three weeks ago with Lambo oem and likewise have been noisy, for the first few applications of the day, since. Odd!

[DoubleSix]

Can't speak for Lambo but have heard of this on other cars and is explained by the way the pads are seated. I understand applying some form of dampening paste to the BACK of the pad reduces vibration and noise.

Nice car.

[4321go]

In fact, having just reread your OP, I'd say that the front brakes are exactly as you describe. Brand new and fitted by Lamborghini, no overnight corrosion but first thing it's just as you are experiencing. And second is always more awkward than the rest. I usually block shift through it. But it's better when warm and there's no problem with third at all. 62,000 miles BTW.

[andybirtles]

Thanks for your comments.... I have got a m roadster and that makes the same grating noise for first few applications after washing or being laid up for a couple of weeks but the Gallardo does it every time I draw to a halt. I will hear it more when I get it back as I have just had the loud aftermarket exhaust taken off and put a stock one on (I know it sounds wrong way round but I live in a cul de sac and my neighbours were on the verge of shooting me) .

The second gear issue I am not sure to be honest as I have only done less than 100 miles so maybe not being forceful enough.Will get some mileage on it then see if its better when hot.

Really appreciate your comments.

Andy.

[andybirtles]

Sorry just thought about another question ....... My car is a 54 plate and I have read that being a manual gearbox that you can check the clutch thickness through an inspection hole... The garage tell me that's not the case with mine as its only possible on 06 onwards ?

Can anyone tell me if that's the case ?

Thanks.

[70proof]

hopefully batman (V10 bat) will be along in a bit..... his first g was 04 manual..... and he's mechanically very sound....

if brakes and pads are new and have been sat around, maybe they just need bedding in....

[GT Two]

When was the gearbox oil last changed?

What pads are you using?

Congrats!

[andybirtles]

Hi

Thanks for your replies again chaps.

It would appear the brakes were put on 200 miles before I got the car and I have done less than 100 so could it still be that they need bedding in ? Every other car I have had even with new discs and pads have never sounded like they were cleaning rust off them every time I stop...

I cant find any paperwork details as to when gearbox oil was changed but it has Lamborghini history together with millbrook and bhp service stamps.

I may be worrying about nothing but just want to cover all options as it is effectively under warranty from the dealer (not main dealer) that I bought it from but want to gear myself up just in case he tells me its normalif you guys say it aint.

Thanks again.

[GT Two]

andybirtles said:

Hi

Thanks for your replies again chaps.

It would appear the brakes were put on 200 miles before I got the car and I have done less than 100 so could it still be that they need bedding in ? Every other car I have had even with new discs and pads have never sounded like they were cleaning rust off them every time I stop...

I cant find any paperwork details as to when gearbox oil was changed but it has Lamborghini history together with millbrook and bhp service stamps.

I may be worrying about nothing but just want to cover all options as it is effectively under warranty from the dealer (not main dealer) that I bought it from but want to gear myself up just in case he tells me its normalif you guys say it aint.

Thanks again.

Hi Andy,

I think you bought the black manual car from BHP?

Get the dealer to double check the discs and pads and make sure they are all oem.

I have had similar issues with gear change on other cars and twice it was old or low gearbox oil. I have only driven a 07 Manual gallardo but the gearbox was smooth. I do miss the clickety clack!

Cheers

Lee

[andrew]

70proof said:

..... and he's mechanically very sound....

i'm sure he's happy to hear that

[4321go]

Just to follow up on the brake front: mine are about 700 miles from new and have sounded exactly as you describe. But in hindsight I don't recall hearing them these last couple of days. I put it down to running-in, although I too don't recall a similar noise from other set-ups. I'm very light on brakes and consider three weeks / 700 miles as barely bedded-in. I wouldn't be too worried just yet.

I've had the gearbox and diff fluids changed twice in my ownership. They've been very clean on both occasions and the drivetrain is smooth and quiet. Just a little obstreperous around second gear until thoroughly warmed up.

[andrewparker]

GT Two said:

Hi Andy,

I think you bought the black manual car from BHP?

Profile pic shows a yellow car.

[andybirtles]

Hi

Nope never bought the black one from bhp. Mine is definitely yellow.

I am going to pop into the garage today and ask about the gearbox oil. Somebody also mentioned bleeding the clutch and adjusting cables .. Still wondering if what I have been told about not being able to see clutch wear unless my car is 06 model onwards is correct or not... ? I know its a plug and play check on e gear but was told you can manually inspect on 6 speed ones...... Chap I bought mine off says no cos its before 06 ????

Cheers.

Andy.