Engine rebuilding

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GT Two

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3,070 posts

198 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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While browsing adverts trying to find a Gallardo I came across several adverts for Gallardo engine rebuild services.

How common is this in UK cars?

I enquired and was told that such a service would cost between 15 and 25k.

Does anyone provide a good warranty?

ZeusF

377 posts

129 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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The engine seems well built to start with, I have just rebuilt an engine for our twin turbo but I know of engines with 40,000 miles which have done 10k+ on the turbos which says a lot.

Why are you looking for a rebuild ?

BTW, £25k seems a lot to me.

GT Two

Original Poster:

3,070 posts

198 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ZeusF said:
The engine seems well built to start with, I have just rebuilt an engine for our twin turbo but I know of engines with 40,000 miles which have done 10k+ on the turbos which says a lot.

Why are you looking for a rebuild ?

BTW, £25k seems a lot to me.
Sorry Zeus, I think my post was misleading.

Im looking to buy a Gallardo and was wondering about engine reliability.

ZeusF

377 posts

129 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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GT Two said:
ZeusF said:
The engine seems well built to start with, I have just rebuilt an engine for our twin turbo but I know of engines with 40,000 miles which have done 10k+ on the turbos which says a lot.

Why are you looking for a rebuild ?

BTW, £25k seems a lot to me.
Sorry Zeus, I think my post was misleading.

Im looking to buy a Gallardo and was wondering about engine reliability.
In that case I reckon they are great, I've met plenty of people running these engines with high mileage and not heard of many issues. I have also tripped a 25000 mile engine to use for my turbo build and it was close to mint condition yet had been driven VERY hard by the owner.

70proof

6,075 posts

161 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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it happens, but rarely..... this was uh-matts car a long time ago.....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

say a rebuild came in at 15k, if the car was got for 50.....

voicey

2,457 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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70proof said:
it happens, but rarely..... this was uh-matts car a long time ago.....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

say a rebuild came in at 15k, if the car was got for 50.....
Why did you have to post that up? It would be a perfect winter project for me but my wife would kill me if I came home with another car.

ZeusF

377 posts

129 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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voicey said:
70proof said:
it happens, but rarely..... this was uh-matts car a long time ago.....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

say a rebuild came in at 15k, if the car was got for 50.....
Why did you have to post that up? It would be a perfect winter project for me but my wife would kill me if I came home with another car.
At 50k I reckon that could be a great deal, rebuild a replacement engine, lower compression slightly, fit a twin turbo kit and you have an LP1250/LP1500 for less than £90k
There won't be a Lambo in production that would come close to it, even remotely close to it.

GT Two

Original Poster:

3,070 posts

198 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ZeusF said:
voicey said:
70proof said:
it happens, but rarely..... this was uh-matts car a long time ago.....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

say a rebuild came in at 15k, if the car was got for 50.....
Why did you have to post that up? It would be a perfect winter project for me but my wife would kill me if I came home with another car.
At 50k I reckon that could be a great deal, rebuild a replacement engine, lower compression slightly, fit a twin turbo kit and you have an LP1250/LP1500 for less than £90k
There won't be a Lambo in production that would come close to it, even remotely close to it.
It was a specialist that told me 15-25k, and based upon warranty companies will only cover upto 10k I think. Leaves a large gap, which is why I was trying to understand what the risk is.

I think as look as the cars serviced correctly and oil levels are maintained the risk should be low.

Its between a 430 and Gallardo for me and the Gallardo wins on looks, also love the torque of the engine which makes low speed driving almost as much fun as when your are revving the engine out.

Cerberaherts

1,651 posts

147 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
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ZeusF said:
The engine seems well built to start with, I have just rebuilt an engine for our twin turbo but I know of engines with 40,000 miles which have done 10k+ on the turbos which says a lot.

Why are you looking for a rebuild ?

BTW, £25k seems a lot to me.
Let's see some pics of your rebuild, then? How much did it cost you to rebuild your own engine?

ZeusF

377 posts

129 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
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Cerberaherts said:
ZeusF said:
The engine seems well built to start with, I have just rebuilt an engine for our twin turbo but I know of engines with 40,000 miles which have done 10k+ on the turbos which says a lot.

Why are you looking for a rebuild ?

BTW, £25k seems a lot to me.
Let's see some pics of your rebuild, then? How much did it cost you to rebuild your own engine?
I will post when its completed.
It didn't cost £25k btw.

ChrisFitz

748 posts

185 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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70proof said:
it happens, but rarely..... this was uh-matts car a long time ago.....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

say a rebuild came in at 15k, if the car was got for 50.....
What Matt's old Gallardo's engine blew?

lambo666

464 posts

124 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Yes... I count myself very lucky, I very nearly bought this in the summer, the current owner looked after it as well, I wanted a less attention seeking colour and one with lifting gear so passed on it.
It did look fantastic with the lp560 bumper and sound great with the rsc exhaust.

SignalGruen

631 posts

206 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Chatting to a mate of mine today who rebuilds these - the place he works at have rebuilt quite a few - common cause are the cats disintergrating apparently.

Cerberaherts

1,651 posts

147 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Yep. They suffer with reversion.

Ferruccio

1,840 posts

125 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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That happened to the chap who owned my Diablo before me.
But then he did drive it around with the cat warning light on...........
He then couldn't afford the car anymore after having to buy a new engine.
So if the cat warning light comes on........

P155flaps

560 posts

149 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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I have been looking for a Gallardo for a few weeks and was advised by BHP as soon as I get it do a cat bypass.

Direct quote when I spoke to them "we have a backlog of 8 waiting for a rebuild at the moment all for the same reason, they have eaten the internal of the cat"



GT Two

Original Poster:

3,070 posts

198 months

Monday 12th January 2015
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P155flaps said:
I have been looking for a Gallardo for a few weeks and was advised by BHP as soon as I get it do a cat bypass.

Direct quote when I spoke to them "we have a backlog of 8 waiting for a rebuild at the moment all for the same reason, they have eaten the internal of the cat"
This was reported to be early cars (04) I think? the cats were apparently brittle.

Has anyone heard a Gallardo with Standard exhausts but decated? is it a high pitched sound or a deeper noise?

baptist

632 posts

262 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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Another reason to decat. smile

Cerberaherts

1,651 posts

147 months

Tuesday 13th January 2015
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[quote=GT Two]

This was reported to be early cars (04) I think? the cats were apparently brittle.

Can happen to any of them. Sometimes it's just bad luck but often it's caused by a fault. A random misfire, air leak, cracked manifold, any of these can cause it. They can also be caused indirectly by poor exhaust fitment.They have a misfire detection unit that measures exhaust pulses for each bank. Sometimes some of the aftermarket exhausts cause these units to measure a false misfire. One "cure" for this is to push a small ball bearing in one of the two vacuum lines. The unit doesn't see a pulse difference so thinks all is well. When you DO get a real misfire, the defeated system can't detect it. Unburnt fuel causes the cat to fall apart. You drop of the throttle and the busted bits of cat get sucked into the engine, mashing the valves and piston crowns, sometimes bending the con rods or worse...