What is the latest thinking on the Mondial?
Discussion
Hello All,
Currently on the hunt for a Mondial as my air cooled 911 is up for sale. I've read lots of very useful and informative content on PH, much of which supports the purchase of a Mondial, providing it has been looked after.
I drove my first Mondial recently and was blown away by the noise, steering feel (a QV) and sense of occasion which I feel was missing in my 911. I'm a little wary of the increased attention a car like this brings but it seemed to be all thumbs up and smiles on the test drive so I'm thinking there is nothing to worry about!
Given where prices are currently at; £35-£50k, can anyone give me a feel of fair value on a Mondial with average Ferrari mileage for the age?
I'm set on a QV coupe as the more robust, more powerful car over the 8, but the less complex and easier to service car over the T. I've also driven a 348 and 355 but the versatility and modestly of the Mondial really appeals to me.
Your expert opinions appreciated!
Cheers
Nick
Currently on the hunt for a Mondial as my air cooled 911 is up for sale. I've read lots of very useful and informative content on PH, much of which supports the purchase of a Mondial, providing it has been looked after.
I drove my first Mondial recently and was blown away by the noise, steering feel (a QV) and sense of occasion which I feel was missing in my 911. I'm a little wary of the increased attention a car like this brings but it seemed to be all thumbs up and smiles on the test drive so I'm thinking there is nothing to worry about!
Given where prices are currently at; £35-£50k, can anyone give me a feel of fair value on a Mondial with average Ferrari mileage for the age?
I'm set on a QV coupe as the more robust, more powerful car over the 8, but the less complex and easier to service car over the T. I've also driven a 348 and 355 but the versatility and modestly of the Mondial really appeals to me.
Your expert opinions appreciated!
Cheers
Nick
Hi Nick,
I've pasted an extract below from a previous post from last year, (edited for spelling),
PM me if you want any info, good luck with your search.
Cheers,
Mario
I sold my Mondial QV about 11 years ago and owned it for 14 years, I did about 22k miles in that period, sold it with 50k miles on the clock and it’s still on the road according to Askmid & MOT history.
To add to some of the comments made, overall I had a good experience of owing and driving this model over that time. It took me a good 8-12m in searching for the best example I could find, most I saw were very tired and neglected examples back in 1993. I bought mine after I’d had a professional inspection done and luckily nothing really major went wrong although it was a 10y old car when I got it.
Some of the things that come to mind:
Rust was my biggest headache, bottom of doors, battery compartment, rear sill area behind rear wheels and bottom of front wings.
Useless electric windows and electric roof a real pain to get these working.
Windscreen delamination in the corners.
Aircon control switches are both electrical and pneumatic assembly and can fail resulting in the airflow not being directed to various vents etc.
TRXs tyres are very expensive and not always available plus they were hopeless – I upgraded the wheels to a set of Mondial T wheels all-round with Goodyear Eagle F1’s. – much better but front ground clearance was worse.
The photo in my profile shows the later wheels fitted.
Engine was nice had a great sound after I’d fitted a stainless steel sports exhaust.
Engine was not so nice in the fuel & oil consumption department. 17mpg was about a realistic average but it’s a heavyish car and quite low geared.
Classic open gate gearbox was good once warmed up, clutch lasted well after I changed it soon after acquiring the car.
Easy to work on brakes, oil changes, coolant, plugs etc.
Mondials have good space inside, you really can take 4 adults if the rear passengers are prepared to sit with their legs apart.
Good full width boot, good rear visibility.
They come with a standard battery isolator switch down under the front bonnet near the battery so you can leave it a while without fear of battery discharge.
Metal rear wheel arch liners rotted out so these were replaced with the fibre-glass ones from a Mondial T – fitted after a bit of fettling.
Mine had the half leather interior with cloth inserts a bit nicer over any distance as less sweaty compared to full leather.
Cheap car tax and insurance compared to cars of today.
Love to know how the car’s going now reg was RYP94Y
I've pasted an extract below from a previous post from last year, (edited for spelling),
PM me if you want any info, good luck with your search.
Cheers,
Mario
I sold my Mondial QV about 11 years ago and owned it for 14 years, I did about 22k miles in that period, sold it with 50k miles on the clock and it’s still on the road according to Askmid & MOT history.
To add to some of the comments made, overall I had a good experience of owing and driving this model over that time. It took me a good 8-12m in searching for the best example I could find, most I saw were very tired and neglected examples back in 1993. I bought mine after I’d had a professional inspection done and luckily nothing really major went wrong although it was a 10y old car when I got it.
Some of the things that come to mind:
Rust was my biggest headache, bottom of doors, battery compartment, rear sill area behind rear wheels and bottom of front wings.
Useless electric windows and electric roof a real pain to get these working.
Windscreen delamination in the corners.
Aircon control switches are both electrical and pneumatic assembly and can fail resulting in the airflow not being directed to various vents etc.
TRXs tyres are very expensive and not always available plus they were hopeless – I upgraded the wheels to a set of Mondial T wheels all-round with Goodyear Eagle F1’s. – much better but front ground clearance was worse.
The photo in my profile shows the later wheels fitted.
Engine was nice had a great sound after I’d fitted a stainless steel sports exhaust.
Engine was not so nice in the fuel & oil consumption department. 17mpg was about a realistic average but it’s a heavyish car and quite low geared.
Classic open gate gearbox was good once warmed up, clutch lasted well after I changed it soon after acquiring the car.
Easy to work on brakes, oil changes, coolant, plugs etc.
Mondials have good space inside, you really can take 4 adults if the rear passengers are prepared to sit with their legs apart.
Good full width boot, good rear visibility.
They come with a standard battery isolator switch down under the front bonnet near the battery so you can leave it a while without fear of battery discharge.
Metal rear wheel arch liners rotted out so these were replaced with the fibre-glass ones from a Mondial T – fitted after a bit of fettling.
Mine had the half leather interior with cloth inserts a bit nicer over any distance as less sweaty compared to full leather.
Cheap car tax and insurance compared to cars of today.
Love to know how the car’s going now reg was RYP94Y
mario328 said:
Hi Nick,
I've pasted an extract below from a previous post from last year, (edited for spelling),
PM me if you want any info, good luck with your search.
Cheers,
Mario
I sold my Mondial QV about 11 years ago and owned it for 14 years, I did about 22k miles in that period, sold it with 50k miles on the clock and it’s still on the road according to Askmid & MOT history.
To add to some of the comments made, overall I had a good experience of owing and driving this model over that time. It took me a good 8-12m in searching for the best example I could find, most I saw were very tired and neglected examples back in 1993. I bought mine after I’d had a professional inspection done and luckily nothing really major went wrong although it was a 10y old car when I got it.
Some of the things that come to mind:
Rust was my biggest headache, bottom of doors, battery compartment, rear sill area behind rear wheels and bottom of front wings.
Useless electric windows and electric roof a real pain to get these working.
Windscreen delamination in the corners.
Aircon control switches are both electrical and pneumatic assembly and can fail resulting in the airflow not being directed to various vents etc.
TRXs tyres are very expensive and not always available plus they were hopeless – I upgraded the wheels to a set of Mondial T wheels all-round with Goodyear Eagle F1’s. – much better but front ground clearance was worse.
The photo in my profile shows the later wheels fitted.
Engine was nice had a great sound after I’d fitted a stainless steel sports exhaust.
Engine was not so nice in the fuel & oil consumption department. 17mpg was about a realistic average but it’s a heavyish car and quite low geared.
Classic open gate gearbox was good once warmed up, clutch lasted well after I changed it soon after acquiring the car.
Easy to work on brakes, oil changes, coolant, plugs etc.
Mondials have good space inside, you really can take 4 adults if the rear passengers are prepared to sit with their legs apart.
Good full width boot, good rear visibility.
They come with a standard battery isolator switch down under the front bonnet near the battery so you can leave it a while without fear of battery discharge.
Metal rear wheel arch liners rotted out so these were replaced with the fibre-glass ones from a Mondial T – fitted after a bit of fettling.
Mine had the half leather interior with cloth inserts a bit nicer over any distance as less sweaty compared to full leather.
Cheap car tax and insurance compared to cars of today.
Love to know how the car’s going now reg was RYP94Y
Mario - this information is so helpful. Sounds like a very realistic appraisal of ownership. Nostalgia aside, would you have another?I've pasted an extract below from a previous post from last year, (edited for spelling),
PM me if you want any info, good luck with your search.
Cheers,
Mario
I sold my Mondial QV about 11 years ago and owned it for 14 years, I did about 22k miles in that period, sold it with 50k miles on the clock and it’s still on the road according to Askmid & MOT history.
To add to some of the comments made, overall I had a good experience of owing and driving this model over that time. It took me a good 8-12m in searching for the best example I could find, most I saw were very tired and neglected examples back in 1993. I bought mine after I’d had a professional inspection done and luckily nothing really major went wrong although it was a 10y old car when I got it.
Some of the things that come to mind:
Rust was my biggest headache, bottom of doors, battery compartment, rear sill area behind rear wheels and bottom of front wings.
Useless electric windows and electric roof a real pain to get these working.
Windscreen delamination in the corners.
Aircon control switches are both electrical and pneumatic assembly and can fail resulting in the airflow not being directed to various vents etc.
TRXs tyres are very expensive and not always available plus they were hopeless – I upgraded the wheels to a set of Mondial T wheels all-round with Goodyear Eagle F1’s. – much better but front ground clearance was worse.
The photo in my profile shows the later wheels fitted.
Engine was nice had a great sound after I’d fitted a stainless steel sports exhaust.
Engine was not so nice in the fuel & oil consumption department. 17mpg was about a realistic average but it’s a heavyish car and quite low geared.
Classic open gate gearbox was good once warmed up, clutch lasted well after I changed it soon after acquiring the car.
Easy to work on brakes, oil changes, coolant, plugs etc.
Mondials have good space inside, you really can take 4 adults if the rear passengers are prepared to sit with their legs apart.
Good full width boot, good rear visibility.
They come with a standard battery isolator switch down under the front bonnet near the battery so you can leave it a while without fear of battery discharge.
Metal rear wheel arch liners rotted out so these were replaced with the fibre-glass ones from a Mondial T – fitted after a bit of fettling.
Mine had the half leather interior with cloth inserts a bit nicer over any distance as less sweaty compared to full leather.
Cheap car tax and insurance compared to cars of today.
Love to know how the car’s going now reg was RYP94Y
I'm interested in your points regarding rust. Is the T the better car from this perspective?
Thank you very much for your help.
nickpan said:
Mario - this information is so helpful. Sounds like a very realistic appraisal of ownership. Nostalgia aside, would you have another?
No, I only need a 2 seater thesedays and my Exige fits the bill, there are aspects I miss, the leather smell the noise, the badge etc.
I'm interested in your points regarding rust. Is the T the better car from this perspective?
Dunno if I'm honest, It's a much newer design but I knew an owner of a 348 which had rusty sills within its first 2 years, and they are way more expensive to run than a QV.
Thank you very much for your help.
No, I only need a 2 seater thesedays and my Exige fits the bill, there are aspects I miss, the leather smell the noise, the badge etc.
I'm interested in your points regarding rust. Is the T the better car from this perspective?
Dunno if I'm honest, It's a much newer design but I knew an owner of a 348 which had rusty sills within its first 2 years, and they are way more expensive to run than a QV.
Thank you very much for your help.
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