Ferrari 308 electric window

Ferrari 308 electric window

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Jonty355

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220 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Hi guys, having some problems with one of my electric windows in the 308 GTB.

I had them recently refurbed with new motors and they worked about as good as you would expect for an old Ferrari. However the passenger side window stopped working after being used twice. And naturally, its stopped working in the fully down position!!!

I've got the door panel off and when trying to operate I can hear a click somewhere in the door when pressing the switch to operate, so theres obviously something getting to the motor. Any ideas what could be the problem? I'd rather fix myself than take back to the garage that did the refurb as its a fair trip away and not got the time.

johnnyreggae

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167 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Be careful - if the cable unravels off the spool it can be a nightmare to get reassembled

Is the problem with both switches to that side (rules out switch)

You could check how many volts the motor is seeing

Another check is a poor earth on the bolt on the front inside of the door frame (remove speaker for best access)

If you have the window winding tool at least you'll be able to take it back up til a proper fix

More here http://www.birdman308.com/service/windowservice/in...

Jonty355

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Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Sadly I dont have the 'tool' to wind back up manually. Anyone know what its meant to look like as I could probably fabricate one at work?


I've taken the speaker out already so will have a feel around inside for the earth. May take the switches out too, do they just lift out or is there a knack to removing them?

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Its a handle which goes in the hole behind the 1 inch circular cover and then you push to engage - maybe a large flat screwdriver will do it too - try google images - or Ebay eBay item number: 161123355890

The switches have two small clips - fairly easy to remove but you can check the wires are attached from underneath

Edited by johnnyreggae on Wednesday 28th May 08:13

Jonty355

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Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Is this the right tool? Says its for a GT4, but not sure if will fit a GTB? If so, dont suppose anyone knows the width and thickness of the flat end do they? If so I should be able to make a few for any fellow Ferrari owners that require them in the future?




Jonty355

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Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Ah, that ebay number item looks a little bit more complicated. Need to get the window up for tomorrow night so I can use the car and doubt it'll arrive from the states by then.... not that I fancy shelling out £104 for that!

Does anyone on here have one that could take some good photos and measurements so I could reproduce them? Doubt anyone would want to pay that money for them.

isuk

1,510 posts

223 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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I have a friend who has one of those emergency windows cranks available. I'll send you a PM with his details. Here is the crank he has.


Jonty355

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Wednesday 28th May 2014
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isuk said:
I have a friend who has one of those emergency windows cranks available. I'll send you a PM with his details. Here is the crank he has.

Cheers, have sent him an email. Thank you!

johnnyreggae

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167 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Now you know what it looks like are you absolutely sure that you don't have one hidden in your tool or jack kit or fallen out into the boot lower sections behind the wheels or the cabin pouches ?

Jonty355

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Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Will have another good look tonight but pretty certain its not in the tool bag. Will check under the seats. The windows didn't work when I bought the car so cant imagine they went without winding them at all, but who knows.

Jonty355

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Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Just wondering though, does anyone know if a F355 spider manual roof tool is the same thing or similar?

ETA: found a pic. sadly not. Damn!

Edited by Jonty355 on Wednesday 28th May 09:30

Jonty355

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Thursday 29th May 2014
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johnnyreggae said:
Is the problem with both switches to that side (rules out switch)
10 PH points to that man!

With there being a clicking noise in the door when pressing the switch I thought that there was obviously power getting to the window mechanism so unlikely to be with the switch. However remembered your comment after a bit more unsuccessful prodding and poking and decided to test the switches by swapping them around. Must have been a bad contact as both windows then started working!

Guessing it must have been a bit of dirt on one of the contacts that was removed as I unplugged/replugged.

Anyway, both windows now up and door card reinstalled so I can make it to tonights supercardriver meet!


jaisharma

1,176 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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If you ever get round to making the tool I could be interested in one or two

Caruso

7,469 posts

263 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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Glad you got to the root of the problem, but it's good to have the winding tool to hand.

Mine was to be found in the glove compartment.

Jonty355

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Monday 2nd June 2014
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jaisharma said:
If you ever get round to making the tool I could be interested in one or two
As soon as I find one that is reasonably priced theh I'll buy one and replicate it. Unless anyone has one to lend me?

Caruso said:
Glad you got to the root of the problem, but it's good to have the winding tool to hand.

Mine was to be found in the glove compartment.
What car is that? My 308 doesn't have a glove box, I just have all the fuses behind the bit where the glove box would be?

Caruso

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Monday 2nd June 2014
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Jonty355 said:
What car is that? My 308 doesn't have a glove box, I just have all the fuses behind the bit where the glove box would be?
My 308 GT4. The top of the dashboard on the passenger side hinges up to reveal the glove compartment.

Jonty355

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Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Think its different to the GTB, where the glove box should be is a panel that unscrews and is just the fuse box.

Jonty355

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Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I wonder if the Mondial has anything similar in it? Will have to check that one.