Unicorn hooves, also known as F50 tyres

Unicorn hooves, also known as F50 tyres

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PAUL500

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2,732 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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If anyone is in need

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333843736447?ssPageName...

Edited by PAUL500 on Friday 1st January 16:52

Turbo cab

1,601 posts

238 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Who in there right mind would pay £5000 for a set of tyres that will be well past there sell by date, and other than for the sake of a static display car, pretty much unusable due to being unsafe?

Davo456gt

696 posts

155 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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same size as later Diablos with 18" wheels too - about £1200 for a new set of Pirelli's last time I bought some

WCZ

10,740 posts

200 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Turbo cab said:
Who in there right mind would pay £5000 for a set of tyres that will be well past there sell by date, and other than for the sake of a static display car, pretty much unusable due to being unsafe?
Someone who will use them for a static display car, as to which there are a few smile

Turbo cab

1,601 posts

238 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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WCZ said:
Turbo cab said:
Who in there right mind would pay £5000 for a set of tyres that will be well past there sell by date, and other than for the sake of a static display car, pretty much unusable due to being unsafe?
Someone who will use them for a static display car, as to which there are a few smile
Which did lead me to my next point....

Wouldn't one expect a static display car to be low mileage example already fitted with these anyway wink.

PAUL500

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2,732 posts

252 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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No doubt these were removed from such an F50 when they were actually being used quite regularly, and simply replaced with modern rubber back in the late 90s/ early 2000s when F50s were being sold for a few hundred grand, not multi millions like today.

However that owner will now be kicking himself silly that he did not keep them when he put those Diablo tyres on instead, as every man and his dog will be telling him now at car shows that they are the wrong tyres, and he devalued his F50 by way way more than £5k as a result of his actions.

Its nothing to do with old rubber, its all to do with collectability, where originality is king.

johnnyreggae

2,990 posts

166 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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PAUL500 said:
its all to do with collectability, where originality is king.
How do these people ensure the air in the tyres is original ?

Cheib

23,620 posts

181 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Trouble is your Unicorn F50 can’t be sold to all markets with out of date tyres in it. My local tyre fitter does a lot of work for DK, when I was in there a year or so ago they were trying to source a set of tyres for a Zonda which was going abroad and couldn’t be imported into whichever country it was going to with the out of date tyres on it. First world problem clearly...

PAUL500

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2,732 posts

252 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Send the butler on a trip to Northern Italy with a big flask I imagine! laugh

Turbo cab

1,601 posts

238 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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PAUL500 said:
No doubt these were removed from such an F50 when they were actually being used quite regularly, and simply replaced with modern rubber back in the late 90s/ early 2000s when F50s were being sold for a few hundred grand, not multi millions like today.

However that owner will now be kicking himself silly that he did not keep them when he put those Diablo tyres on instead, as every man and his dog will be telling him now at car shows that they are the wrong tyres, and he devalued his F50 by way way more than £5k as a result of his actions.

Its nothing to do with old rubber, its all to do with collectability, where originality is king.
I appreciate your trying to get the best possible price for your tyres but anyone with half a brain will see through your sales pitch, they maybe original but they are unusable (safely).

They could even blow out as soon as you inflate them and I'm not sure that would be a good look at the car show you mention.

I'm also fairly confident that if you try and chip the price on any dealer stocked F50 due to the incorrect (in date, safe and useable) tyres being fitted, they would most likely laugh in your face and kindly tell you to Foxtrot Oscar, ironically none of the three cars listed for sale on classic driver have any mention of "original tyres" and neither have any of the cars I've managed to find that have sold previously. Original paint and weave however is a big deal. It would appear that every man and his dog either have no idea about the originality of the tyres you speak of or clearly don't care...

PAUL500

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2,732 posts

252 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Weave is easy to replicate, its not even carbon fibre, its cheap old glass. Experts like mototechnique show how its done online.

Would I pay £5k plus for a set of original F50 tyres?, nope, as I don't have an f50 that needs them!

If any of those cars above had the original, correct spec tyres fitted, it would most definitely be mentioned in the advert, the reason it is not, is that you never say whats missing. Promote the positives, hide the negatives.

Ask yourself this, why do they not say "the old original spec tyres have been ditched for a nice new set of Diablo tyres" instead?

PAUL500

Original Poster:

2,732 posts

252 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Cheib said:
Trouble is your Unicorn F50 can’t be sold to all markets with out of date tyres in it. My local tyre fitter does a lot of work for DK, when I was in there a year or so ago they were trying to source a set of tyres for a Zonda which was going abroad and couldn’t be imported into whichever country it was going to with the out of date tyres on it. First world problem clearly...
Any car can be sold anywhere, its the registration for road use, not the import that will stipulate brand new tyres. Most of these cars don't go beyond the nice heated garage anyway. they only have the dust covers taken off to show the dinner party guests, in between admiring the Monet and the Picasso.

You can guarantee if those tyres were unique to the Zonda, and no longer available new, that they would be going in a box with it, to be refitted once the incorrect spec ones had got the car through rego. DK know their stuff, last thing they would do it bin anything important to that car.

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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WCZ said:
Someone who will use them for a static display car, as to which there are a few smile
Huh?

WCZ

10,740 posts

200 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Pothole said:
Huh?
Huh ?

lingus75

1,698 posts

228 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Huh

taz turbo

661 posts

256 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Well, I think it could be F50 owners lucky day, I have 50L of F50 fuel (may not of been in an F50!) by weight ratio with the car it’s worth £80K, but I’ll accept £5K though.

nuts

mrporsche

742 posts

48 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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it seem nonsense.

If i was buying an F50, would i really be put off as it didn't have the original ancient tyres ??


Driver101

14,376 posts

127 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I wouldn't buy part worn tyres for a Ford Fiesta nevermind a Ferrari.

I can't say I see any value in tyres fit for the bin in the quest for originality.

Camlet

1,132 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Driver101 said:
I wouldn't buy part worn tyres for a Ford Fiesta nevermind a Ferrari.

I can't say I see any value in tyres fit for the bin in the quest for originality.
Agreed. The original Goodyears are now so beyond their use date, they would be taken off any F50 that's intended for driving.

Besides, insiders say they were crap on the car when brand new. I wouldn't even keep the Goodyears as mementos. More Nag than Unicorn.


Turbo cab

1,601 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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My favourite part of the add;


"I very much doubt Goodyear will be re making them given the small number of F50s produced,and even if they did they would simply be replicas without the correct period manufactured stamps as per the original batch."

roflrofl what utter utter drivel.