RHD Ferrari 456M Manual intro and numbers question.

[auyt]

Hi Guys
I have been hanging around here for a while and recently I bought a 2000 Ferrari RHD 456M Manual.
Nice colour combination Titanium Grey with a Burgundy red interior.

This was one of those I walked into a classic car place one lunch time and bought a car stories. I didn't plan to buy a car honest. well I wasn't planning on that day, call right car right time..

The car I have since discovered is one of only 33-4?? RHD Manual M's in existence.
All the Aussie Ferrari's at that time were ordered through Maranello sales in the UK.

I have read there is 31 Ms in the UK so you can understand I am very keen to locate the rest or even identify if this is the only one in Australia.

The Australia Ferrari club has 5 Ms on there register and 4 are Autos.
Any suggestions
Graeme

[diametric123]

I'm reliably informed there were 33 RHD delivered to the UK - what I didn't know was that 5 were exported to Aus

Mine's Argento on Blue Scurro - great looking car and a heap of fun to drive

[diametric123]

I'm reliably informed there were 33 RHD delivered to the UK - what I didn't know was that 5 were exported to Aus

Mine's Argento on Blue Scurro - great looking car and a heap of fun to drive

[jtremlett]

I think you are slightly incorrect. There were 33 456 M GT (i.e. manual) cars supplied new to the UK. There were an additional number (at least 2 that I know of) supplied new to Australia. Australian delivered cars will have a VIN with eighth character D and UK (and other RHD markets such as Hong Kong, Singapore or South Africa) will have a VIN with eighth character C. I thought that Maranello Concessionaires stopped being the Australian importer prior to the 456 M but I may be wrong about that.

Jonathan

[auyt]

Jonathan
That is a great help and yess the Aussie vins have 44D designating manual RHD
I am reliably informed Maranellos were suppling cars up late 2004 the second year of the 612.
There are 5 456M Autos or 50Ds known to the Ferrari club.
I am chasing a guy locally who knows where the secret stash of info is but hes "too busy" The data out there suggest there were only 33 RHD Ms does any one know how I can confirm the numbers and from what your saying there is 35?

[jtremlett]

auyt said:

Jonathan
That is a great help and yess the Aussie vins have 44D designating manual RHD
I am reliably informed Maranellos were suppling cars up late 2004 the second year of the 612.
There are 5 456M Autos or 50Ds known to the Ferrari club.
I am chasing a guy locally who knows where the secret stash of info is but hes "too busy" The data out there suggest there were only 33 RHD Ms does any one know how I can confirm the numbers and from what your saying there is 35?

It is entirely possible that Maranello's were still the Australian importer up to 2004 so I am happy to accept your reliable source on that.

There is often confusion about RHD numbers because various brochures published by Maranello's and Maranello's Archive in the UK quote UK RHD numbers. People then take them to mean RHD worldwide which they are not and they then get quoted around as if they are. According to Maranello's there were 33 456 M GT supplied new to the UK in RHD. There were a number of others supplied new to Australia and, no doubt, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Africa etc. I don't know the totals for the other RHD markets although the UK is by far the biggest RHD market and so you can reasonably assume that the grand total for all RHD markets will be somewhat less that twice the UK total.

Jonathan

[auyt]

And that the reason for the question of trying to estable more accurate numbers.
Maranellos have only given me details of mine and one other(auto).
the hunt continues...

[auyt]

Out of curiosity have the figures quoted for cars delivered to the UK take into account the 66 44C and 50c Spec GTs owned by the Sultan of Brunei been factored in. he owns 83 456s including a lot of one offs.

http://wikicars.org/en/List_of_The_Sultan_of_Brune...

if you click on the 456 links it gives VIN numbers!!

[auyt]

Wrong link
http://www.germancarforum.com/threads/list-sultan-...

[jtremlett]

auyt said:

Out of curiosity have the figures quoted for cars delivered to the UK take into account the 66 44C and 50c Spec GTs owned by the Sultan of Brunei been factored in. he owns 83 456s including a lot of one offs.

http://wikicars.org/en/List_of_The_Sultan_of_Brune...

if you click on the 456 links it gives VIN numbers!!

The UK delivery figures include those cars for Brunei that were ordered in the UK (some of which, including a couple of the Venice specials, are now back or still in the UK). I believe none of the Brunei 456s were Ms.

Jonathan

[auyt]

From my Data Munging I agree there were no Ms in the collection.
So in fact there is only about 70 456GTs and 33 Ms in the UK.

[auyt]

I can now confirm there are only 2 RHD manual 456Ms imported into Australia, mine being the last.
The informtion comes from the Austrlaian Govenment records obtained under Freedom of Information.
so there is 35 RHD Manuals