£200+VAT Labour Rate?

£200+VAT Labour Rate?

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DW91

Original Poster:

14 posts

34 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Good evening,

I am having some work done on my 17 488 at my local Ferrari dealership.

I found a piece of paperwork last year that stated that their hourly rate was a lot less than currently quoted.

I am currently being charged / quoted £200+VAT per hour? I won’t name the dealership, but it seems extortionate to me.

Is this the norm? Or shall I be getting quotes off other dealers? I need quite a big job doing to the car so the labour rate is important.

Dan

Edited by DW91 on Tuesday 6th February 20:37

Trev450

6,436 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th February
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I can't remember when High end main dealers last charged as low as £60 an hour labour rate. Extortionate as it is, £200 an hour is about right for top end main dealers.

Caddyshack

11,824 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th February
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I find main dealers like this so bad value for money that it puts me off owning new cars.

£200+vat may be needed for their overheads but that’s due to their massive hamster wheel of flashy showrooms etc. most of the time they are unbolting one thing and putting on a new one, it isn’t rocket surgery.

MDL111

7,171 posts

184 months

Tuesday 6th February
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From memory the rate at my old dealer in Germany was already 200 euros plus vat pre Covid (so 5 years ago, how time flies…) - so that does not shock me

cgt2

7,141 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Look at the new HR Owen site in Hertfordshire. The operating costs just to keep the lights on are humongous.

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Wednesday 7th February
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DW91 said:
I need quite a big job doing to the car so the labour rate is important.
It may be worth negotiating if its a lot of hours or looking for an indie

davek_964

9,295 posts

182 months

Wednesday 7th February
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Even decent Indy's haven't been £60 an hour for a long time though. Most of them seem to be around the £100 an hour mark these days

ex-devonpaul

1,289 posts

144 months

Wednesday 7th February
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johnnyreggae said:
DW91 said:
I need quite a big job doing to the car so the labour rate is important.
It may be worth negotiating if its a lot of hours or looking for an indie
Carrs in Exeter did us a deal on the Maserati about 6 years ago for quite a long job. IIRC it was £100 plus Vat per hour rather than their usual £150, looking for an electrical issue that could have been quite open ended.

murphyaj

810 posts

82 months

Wednesday 7th February
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I recently paid £120+VAT per hour at a good specialist.

A main dealer charging 66% extra on top for the same quality of work seems pretty normal, you might find another dealer that charges a little less, but probably not by much. And that is exactly why I would never go to one.

b8575

85 posts

94 months

Wednesday 7th February
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I don’t have knowledge of a dealer’s overheads when it comes to workshops but I’m guessing that it includes cost of space, energy, maintenance, equipment and time when there aren’t cars in for service etc.

If that’s 60% of the hourly rate, for example, that still leaves £80/hr or a daily rate of £640. Are mechanics seeing anywhere near that? Maybe the overheads are much higher? Seems crazy

GT3ZZZ

960 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th February
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Just had the daughter's Audi in at our local VW/AG/Porsche indy. £80+VAT ph. No fancy st to pay for, perfect.


supersport

4,264 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th February
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My Ferrari indie is £75 + vat which is very nice when you want a big job done.

Pretty sure my Porsche indie is the same.

My 458 needs a service and it was a 1 owner car with full Ferrari history so I am minded to keep it up. It I don’t like the main dealer round brand round here and I like my indie. I may just keep her, in which case it indie from here on in.


magycks

220 posts

73 months

Sunday 3rd March
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supersport said:
My Ferrari indie is £75 + vat which is very nice when you want a big job done.
What's the indie you use? smile

ratrod 2

1,368 posts

16 months

Sunday 3rd March
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DW91 said:
Good evening,

I am having some work done on my 17 488 at my local Ferrari dealership.

I found a piece of paperwork last year that stated that their hourly rate was a lot less than currently quoted.

I am currently being charged / quoted £200+VAT per hour? I won’t name the dealership, but it seems extortionate to me.

Is this the norm? Or shall I be getting quotes off other dealers? I need quite a big job doing to the car so the labour rate is important.

Dan

Edited by DW91 on Tuesday 6th February 20:37
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OMG that sounds like a lot even for a main dealer,

I paid £900 for my first service at Maranello's on my F430 ,had only covered under a thousand miles since the previous one

but it was on time rather than mileage,

One year later and eighteen hundred miles i paid £1800 ,when i asked why was double they said

they had to change two more fluids than the time before confused

Because the car was under a two year Ferrari warranty i had to take it to a main dealer for it's yearly scheduled service

otherwise it would make it none -void.

While at Maranello's for the first service they noticed that one of the rear ball-joints cover was split and would i like them to

fit a new one ,not being covered by the warranty i asked how much this might cost,£650 was the reply which sounds expensive

just for a rubber gaiter ,I told them to leave it and i will sort it out myself as long as getting a specialist to do the work won't effect

the rest of my warranty, Called Mick and Phil at QV who have been looking after my GTB and previous Ferrari's going back to the

90's ,they quoted me £165 to supply and fit said gaiter ,they said leave it with us for a couple of hours and have some lunch by the Thames

and it will be ready , two hours later we collected it with a invoice for £125 including the part,labour and vat against Maranello's £650.

I asked how much they would charge for the same service that i had done they quoted between £650 to £750 compared to £1800 that i had just paid

So with the car soon to be out of warranty you can guess who i would go to for the next service.

I was aloud to look under the car and talk to the guy who did the job, had a cuppa in the tea room with the boys which i much prefer to

the palatial premises that most of the prestige car dealers have these days.

Both Mick and Phil are Maraneollo trained and and did their apprenticeship there.

You should give them a try if not to far for you.

If not try Emblem in Bournemouth they are very good .











Edited by ratrod 2 on Sunday 3rd March 23:27

DKL

4,624 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Our local MB main dealer quoted £178 ph for labour. I declined..

supersport

4,264 posts

234 months

Sunday 3rd March
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magycks said:
supersport said:
My Ferrari indie is £75 + vat which is very nice when you want a big job done.
What's the indie you use? smile
May not be of use to you unless your’re in North Yorkshire. But it’s Enso Automotive. Been going four years now and am happy.

Just mulling over whether to keep up the 458 main dealer service or go there. I really don’t want to give the main dealer any money.

ratrod 2

1,368 posts

16 months

Monday 4th March
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supersport said:
May not be of use to you unless your’re in North Yorkshire. But it’s Enso Automotive. Been going four years now and am happy.

Just mulling over whether to keep up the 458 main dealer service or go there. I really don’t want to give the main dealer any money.
If a keeper i'd go with your regular people not just to save money but chances are because of the personal relationship you have already

with them and you are know to them not just a number at the reception desk,

I felt guilty taking the 430 to Maranello's instead of QV but i had to because of the terms of the warranty ,

I did think on the same lines as you ,should i keep the main dealer servicing going to secure the value but the car was 15 years old

and most earlier cars these days have a mix of main dealer and specialist history and came to the conclusion that i was paying the extra

cost just for the stamp which you will get anyway from the specialist,besides like i said it's more of a personal thing and usually you can talk to the

man who is working on your car and business is mostly done on first name basis and most are enthusiasts who enjoy what they are doing







Edited by ratrod 2 on Monday 4th March 01:47

Rough101

2,293 posts

82 months

Monday 4th March
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My nearest Ferrari indie is £105 plus VAT, he has the Ferrari and Maserati diagnostic subscriptions to pay. The two Ferrari main dealers near me are £210, Land Rover are £175 and Volvo £165

Griffith4ever

4,765 posts

42 months

Thursday 14th March
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Audi local to me charge £195+ VAT an hour for the R8. I only ever used them once........

ChocolateFrog

28,620 posts

180 months

Thursday 14th March
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Even Dacia are at it. They quote around £150 diagnostic fee to tell you the heater fan resistor has failed, which is blatantly obvious to anyone without any diagnosis beyond turning the heater dial.

They then charge a similar amount to supply and fit. That's a £10 part and 5 mins work. Some people have had them fail 5 or 6 times within the warranty period.

Makes some of the prestige brands seem decent value.