And also this 360...

And also this 360...

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sundayjumper

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530 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th May 2021
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https://www.tradeclassics.com/auctions/ferrari/200...


It’s in “my” colour scheme. It’s manual. The <£50k estimate seems sensible for the mileage. Anybody know the car and want to scare me off before I give them all my personal info so I can bid on it ??


davek_964

9,179 posts

181 months

Wednesday 12th May 2021
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There are some big old gaps in that service history. I know it didn't do so many miles between them - but then, most Ferrari's don't and they don't have 9 year gaps in the history.

As a reference - I sold my manual 360 almost exactly a year ago, with under 40k on the clock (think it was about 36k). From memory, it had two gaps in the history - one in about 2007 I think, and one around 2011, but each was only a year. I took £50k for it - I knew I could have got more, but a lot of Ferrari pricing is optimistic - I reckon it was a £55k car. Was excellent condition, no issues - similar colour.

I'd want to pay quite a lot less than £50k for that one.

Chris355

813 posts

202 months

Wednesday 12th May 2021
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I personally wouldnt touch a car with a 9 year service history gap. I have recently turned down cars with a 4 year gap. There are too many unknowns for that period. Missing a year a couple of times is not so bad and that would not put me off, particularly if the mileage was very low during that period.

Also, if you dont keep cars long, keep in mind silver sells for less money and will take longer to sell.

Edited by Chris355 on Wednesday 12th May 08:19

johnnyreggae

2,991 posts

166 months

Wednesday 12th May 2021
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I'd have thought a query to vendor re gap might be worthwhile since all that is shown is that services are not on the Carrs printout ie they might have been performed outside the franchise network

SFTWend

989 posts

81 months

Wednesday 12th May 2021
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johnnyreggae said:
I'd have thought a query to vendor re gap might be worthwhile since all that is shown is that services are not on the Carrs printout ie they might have been performed outside the franchise network
Good suggestion. I'd suggest avoid if it does have a 9 year gap as it could affect longevity of the engine and would definitely hinder resale.

The market is crazy right now, everything it seems up 20% on a year ago, so it might make upper end of guide or more.

sundayjumper

Original Poster:

530 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th May 2021
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I’m unashamedly looking for a bargain. £50k+ isn’t a bargain !

Low forties, I’m listening....

davek_964

9,179 posts

181 months

Wednesday 12th May 2021
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sundayjumper said:
I’m unashamedly looking for a bargain. £50k+ isn’t a bargain !

Low forties, I’m listening....
Sounds like you're looking for the kind of price I paid for mine.











Sadly, that was 2013 wink

sundayjumper

Original Poster:

530 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th May 2021
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SFTWend said:
Good suggestion. I'd suggest avoid if it does have a 9 year gap as it could affect longevity of the engine and would definitely hinder resale.

The market is crazy right now, everything it seems up 20% on a year ago, so it might make upper end of guide or more.
Having had a better look at the photos on a larger screen, that interior is ropey. That can’t really be a £50k car.... can it ?

Meps

130 posts

209 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Sorry looks like a right dog of one. Engine bay panels missing would make me wonder straight away. The pics make it look there has not even been any effort to give it a proper clean. I will be amazed if that hits 40K..

davek_964

9,179 posts

181 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Meps said:
Sorry looks like a right dog of one. Engine bay panels missing would make me wonder straight away. The pics make it look there has not even been any effort to give it a proper clean. I will be amazed if that hits 40K..
I didn't look that closely at the pictures. But you're right - that really does look tatty - corrosion on the mirror stalk.

If that's a £50k car, I made a serious mistake selling mine for £50k - it was apparently worth twice that!

Meps

130 posts

209 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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I didn't look that closely at the pictures. But you're right - that really does look tatty - corrosion on the mirror stalk.

If that's a £50k car, I made a serious mistake selling mine for £50k - it was apparently worth twice that!


I'm hoping mine keeps going up.



456mgt

2,505 posts

272 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Meps said:
Sorry looks like a right dog of one. Engine bay panels missing would make me wonder straight away. The pics make it look there has not even been any effort to give it a proper clean. I will be amazed if that hits 40K..
Which engine bay panels do you mean? I had a 99MY 360 and it had the same panels as that one. Later years had more elaborate rain channels etc.

Also the wear doesn't look that bad to me for a car with nigh on 70K on the clock. The real issue is the service gulf. That would usually make you think it's been clocked, though it doesn't seem likely in this case. It inevitably makes it more difficult to sell on.

davek_964

9,179 posts

181 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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456mgt said:
Which engine bay panels do you mean? I had a 99MY 360 and it had the same panels as that one. Later years had more elaborate rain channels etc.

Also the wear doesn't look that bad to me for a car with nigh on 70K on the clock. The real issue is the service gulf. That would usually make you think it's been clocked, though it doesn't seem likely in this case. It inevitably makes it more difficult to sell on.
Perhaps the condition is reasonable for a 70k mile car - although I think it suggests the same level of neglect that the big service gaps do.

But a 70k mile 360 in that condition definitely isn't worth anywhere near £50k.

matjk

1,108 posts

146 months

Saturday 15th May 2021
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Some asked about the service history gap and the owner smoothly swerved the question by claiming he was in Thailand and the car was MOT almost every year.
Didn’t mention servicing in that period

Notsip8

54 posts

110 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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matjk said:
Some asked about the service history gap and the owner smoothly swerved the question by claiming he was in Thailand and the car was MOT almost every year.
Didn’t mention servicing in that period
MOT mileage logs across that period shows some use . How many cold starts with old oil over the 7000 miles ?

Meps

130 posts

209 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Now at 33k with 5 hrs to go...........

sundayjumper

Original Poster:

530 posts

288 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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£44.4k including fees. Not for me in the end.

Spleen

5,453 posts

127 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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sundayjumper said:
£44.4k including fees. Not for me in the end.
Think you dodged a bullet there chap, that's in poor shape.

Notsip8

54 posts

110 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Seeing all the paint bubbles, curious to know what sort of money on a glass out bare metal spray for a car like this

Meps

130 posts

209 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Shocked it went for that much...

rolleyes