F430 8,000 miles between service
Discussion
Hi guys
Looking for options on a 430 with around 8,000 miles and three years before its 2nd service then three years ish before 3rd service , then change of owner and then dine every 12months thereafter to present day , car is mint and colour , spec I’ve been searching for , which is several months , my head is saying not to buy it as probably struggle to sell on , I’m planning on keeping it 4 to 5 years , previous fezza was 360 spyder , await your thoughts , always good to have other options
Regards ancol
Looking for options on a 430 with around 8,000 miles and three years before its 2nd service then three years ish before 3rd service , then change of owner and then dine every 12months thereafter to present day , car is mint and colour , spec I’ve been searching for , which is several months , my head is saying not to buy it as probably struggle to sell on , I’m planning on keeping it 4 to 5 years , previous fezza was 360 spyder , await your thoughts , always good to have other options
Regards ancol
johnnyreggae said:
The most recent history is the most important
I do agree (my 360 had missed a service about 5 years before I bought it) - but in this case, I think it would bother me.The missing services are pretty early in the life of the car when things are still bedding in. I think that would bother me more than if they'd been missed later in its life (even though the mileage isn't huge between the services - assuming it's valid of course).
If it really is a very difficult spec / colour combo to find, and the price is good - and you're confident you'll own it a long time as you said - maybe. Otherwise, I'd continue looking.
yzr500 said:
Judging by some of these threads my 360 is worth about 50p.
and mines worth lower than that? 
Edited by sfella on Wednesday 10th February 12:24
This sort of approach to needing a “full service history” is utterly self serving for dealers.
Not that much actually happens on small services.
A car either works, with no warning lights or odd noises, or it doesn’t work, when you test drive it.
Then you get it inspected.
What happens the next day, after you’ve bought it, is largely down to luck.
Not that much actually happens on small services.
A car either works, with no warning lights or odd noises, or it doesn’t work, when you test drive it.
Then you get it inspected.
What happens the next day, after you’ve bought it, is largely down to luck.
Edited by Ferruccio on Wednesday 10th February 14:19
If it had a first service (important as oil change then is important) on time, and it's running fine now, then there's little to be worried about. Sure, some buyers will be put off in the future, so negotiate discount now and accept one when trading it in later on. Can you check the MOT history to see if it was indeed garaged for a few years - if I had one that did a hundred or so miles between MOTs I might also consider not servicing it that year.....
But cars are generally better if used a bit (says he who has a few sat around for far too long) but if stored properly, then recommissioned, there should be no issues. And you'd know if something serious was up with it because of those missing services by now, I'd be fairly confident of that.
But the key is the impression it leaves with people (you included). Others will have the same thoughts - so it will be harder to sell than one that has a full history. But this does become less relevant as the time that has passed increases, and as the car's value drops.....
But cars are generally better if used a bit (says he who has a few sat around for far too long) but if stored properly, then recommissioned, there should be no issues. And you'd know if something serious was up with it because of those missing services by now, I'd be fairly confident of that.
But the key is the impression it leaves with people (you included). Others will have the same thoughts - so it will be harder to sell than one that has a full history. But this does become less relevant as the time that has passed increases, and as the car's value drops.....
Here’s a counterpoint. I was researching a F430 and it too had a good recent service history, but a gap fairly early on with no service and relatively a lot of miles put on, circa 6k from memory. I found out its number plate history and there was a specific number plate on over the missing service period. I did a bit of research on the number plate, try using rate my driving or similar, anyway it wasn’t at that exact time, but the same plate was spotted on a gangsta RR, doing burn ups, jumping red lights and generally driving like a d*ck.
So I reckon ‘my’ F430 had probably been ragged from cold, clutch dropped and left unserviced under that ownership period. A few assumptions there I know, but by adding in the ownership area it wasn’t hard to imagine.
Best of luck in your search.
So I reckon ‘my’ F430 had probably been ragged from cold, clutch dropped and left unserviced under that ownership period. A few assumptions there I know, but by adding in the ownership area it wasn’t hard to imagine.
Best of luck in your search.
It's an interesting dilemma.
When I was looking, the car I ended up buying has a multi year gap between services. But the MOT record showed that it had done 300 miles in that time, and the services bookending the gap were majors.
It came from a reputable dealer, and was in good nick with everything working.
Everything still works, well it did when I put in the garage at the start of November
It had another service as part of me buying it, so I decided it was going to be fine.
If I hadn't bought that one, I still wouldn't have one. No other car has come up in the last 18 months that has interested me.
If it was 10 years ago, I would be less inclined to worry about it.
I also agree that on little used cars it seems a bit pointless doing it every year. Still that's what we do.
When I was looking, the car I ended up buying has a multi year gap between services. But the MOT record showed that it had done 300 miles in that time, and the services bookending the gap were majors.
It came from a reputable dealer, and was in good nick with everything working.
Everything still works, well it did when I put in the garage at the start of November
It had another service as part of me buying it, so I decided it was going to be fine.
If I hadn't bought that one, I still wouldn't have one. No other car has come up in the last 18 months that has interested me.
If it was 10 years ago, I would be less inclined to worry about it.
I also agree that on little used cars it seems a bit pointless doing it every year. Still that's what we do.
sardis said:
Here’s a counterpoint. I was researching a F430 and it too had a good recent service history, but a gap fairly early on with no service and relatively a lot of miles put on, circa 6k from memory. I found out its number plate history and there was a specific number plate on over the missing service period. I did a bit of research on the number plate, try using rate my driving or similar, anyway it wasn’t at that exact time, but the same plate was spotted on a gangsta RR, doing burn ups, jumping red lights and generally driving like a d*ck.
So I reckon ‘my’ F430 had probably been ragged from cold, clutch dropped and left unserviced under that ownership period. A few assumptions there I know, but by adding in the ownership area it wasn’t hard to imagine.
Best of luck in your search.
And if it had had an oil change, a few new filters and a stamp in the service book in between, so what?So I reckon ‘my’ F430 had probably been ragged from cold, clutch dropped and left unserviced under that ownership period. A few assumptions there I know, but by adding in the ownership area it wasn’t hard to imagine.
Best of luck in your search.
Ferruccio said:
This sort of approach to needing a “full service history” is utterly self serving for dealers.
Not that much actually happens on small services.
A car either works, with no warning lights or odd noises, or it doesn’t work, when you test drive it.
Then you get it inspected.
What happens the next day, after you’ve bought it, is largely down to luck.
Bang on , All my cars have covered less than 150 miles each since servicing, one only covered seventy miles but all serviced Not that much actually happens on small services.
A car either works, with no warning lights or odd noises, or it doesn’t work, when you test drive it.
Then you get it inspected.
What happens the next day, after you’ve bought it, is largely down to luck.
Edited by Ferruccio on Wednesday 10th February 14:19
around eighteen months ago.
Spoke to Mike Pullen and he recommended no need for any of them to serviced even though it's been over the yearly service
that the manufactures recommend , He said if i insisted on a oil change he would recycle my existing oil for his own cars .
that includes his five Countachs, Old skool thinking i know but just another way of main dealers extracting money from you.
I do realize that late model cars need that stamp to retain the value in the car but less important on the earlier cars.
Basically you are paying for the official stamp rather that the car is in need of a unnecessary service
sardis said:
But that’s the exact point isn’t it. It had no service or oil change. There is some evidence to suggest it may not have been warmed up or cooled down before and after use. The owner obviously abuses his cars. I certainly didn’t want to pursue it.
My point is that that’s the issue. Not the lack of an annual oil change.
Ferruccio said:
sardis said:
But that’s the exact point isn’t it. It had no service or oil change. There is some evidence to suggest it may not have been warmed up or cooled down before and after use. The owner obviously abuses his cars. I certainly didn’t want to pursue it.
My point is that that’s the issue. Not the lack of an annual oil change.
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