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[WelshBoltonBen]

Hi all,
Still looking for the car of my dreams, or as near as possible!!
Any thoughts on the below or anyone know the history?
Thanks
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008152...

[dereksharpuk]

WelshBoltonBen said:

Hi all,
Still looking for the car of my dreams, or as near as possible!!
Any thoughts on the below or anyone know the history?
Thanks
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008152...

How much do you wish to spend? You should really inspect the car before buying and this one is in Northern Ireland. If you can invest a bit more, a Cali T is better, as is a 360. Just saying.

[WelshBoltonBBBB]

Thanks for your reply- understand the difference with the T- intrigued to know what you think is better- genuinely learning here!
Not in the market for a 360 or 430- they may be more “preferred” but not for me. And I’m kinda caught in the California price ranges- can’t stretch to 458/488 money

[Yolevas]

WelshBoltonBBBB said:

Thanks for your reply- understand the difference with the T- intrigued to know what you think is better- genuinely learning here!

From what I recall, when Chris Harris reviewed the Cali T, he mentioned the chassis, power and looks as the key improvements over the earlier California. Obviously, the last of these is purely subjective, and while the other two are more objective, how big a difference they would make to you will largely be determined by how you actually intend to drive the car.

If you can afford a price-tag beginning with a 7, the California ‘30’ has +30bhp over the standard car and is 30kg lighter, so worth keeping an eye out for...

[WelshBoltonBBBB]

So I’m trying to do the maths on these- sorry for eh questions but I’m used to more mainstream cars- what are thoughts on Ferrari dealer spread on these cars? Retailing for 72k, bought in for 62k? 65k?
Any ideas?

[Griffgrog]

I'd guess around 55K. The spread seems like 25% for cars of that value.

[dereksharpuk]

WelshBoltonBBBB said:

So I’m trying to do the maths on these- sorry for eh questions but I’m used to more mainstream cars- what are thoughts on Ferrari dealer spread on these cars? Retailing for 72k, bought in for 62k? 65k?
Any ideas?

Yup, I agree, circa £55K. If you are buying for cash (no p/ex), offer £65K. That is still a good profit for them.

[WelshBoltonBBBB]

Grand, thanks all. Kinda used to spread on BMW/ Porsche/ AM that kinda thing, but keep reading varying reports on Ferrari dealers. No part ex, so assuming this puts me a little up on those with one? Again, always wondered as there will be some profit on the part ex for dealers on resale or just a PITA!

[jtremlett]

I have some sales history on this car. PM me if you would like me to send it to you.

[WelshBoltonBBBB]

jtremlett said:

I have some sales history on this car. PM me if you would like me to send it to you.

PM’d you! Thanks a lot

[garystoybox]

dereksharpuk said:

Yup, I agree, circa £55K. If you are buying for cash (no p/ex), offer £65K. That is still a good profit for them.

I doubt that will get it done. They’ll have spent £7k applying the mandatory 2 year warranty and thats before any work that was required when it went through its approved checks. The dealership will need £10k over their purchase price to break even. Be amazed if you got it a penny under £70k.

[nudgerwilliams]

Never driven either, but my recollection of the road tests from the time is that the Cali was viewed as not a good car, and the Cali T a big, big improvement and a very good drive. All these things are relative of course.

[WelshBoltonBBBB]

So thanks for all the updates so far. Can I ask if anyone has any experience of the following:

Ceramic discs- anything to lookout for and what’s the working life of them- assume they are pricey to replace?
Any idea of cost for a 3rd year warranty and can you warrant the car up to 15 years?
Is the warranty comprehensive? Any common “wiggle-outs”?
Anything to be concerned about that the car has been in Northern Ireland , not the mainland - particularly in reference to MOT/ servicing etc- I assume not with these types of cars- would it affect resale value?
Are these massively mileage sensitive- if I put 18k miles on over 3 years- am I knackered with resale?

Sorry, lots of questions again!!

[F355GTS]

You should definitely get the wear levels of both discs and pads checked. Yes the discs are expensive to replace. If it's been used for sensible mileage and road only they last a long long time, track work will wear them quickly

£2850 for V8s, think that might be plus vat. It's reasonably comprehensive but lots of the small things are not covered, consider it for covering the big ticket items ie engine/ box etc

I think of any reason an NI car should be considered any different to mainland.

Putting on miles will reduce value but 6k per annum is not stupid although probably more than most Ferraris do!

[garystoybox]

To add to F355’s good points, the CCB pads are not overly expensive but as it’s unlikely that a Cali will have been tracked I would have thought should last 30-40k road use. Easy to inspect anyway. The discs should last 80-100k of road use (as long as don’t let pads get too worn). I think they about £4K per corner to replace. Only accurate l way to check wear is to weigh and compare to new. Hopefully, buying approved used will give a little peace of mind. If really unlucky, a disc can also be damaged from a stone becoming lodged.