2012 458...5 owners. Too many?
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So I've done a deal on a 458 from a main dealer hopefully for collection this week. Ran a hpi check for curiosity wondered if it had stocking finance in it. It didn't but it does have 5 owners which means 6 when I get it. Now I work in the trade I sell sports cars and in the area I operate in although it would be a talking point it wouldn't hinder a sale. I will keep the car for 2 years and at that point make a decision to either buy a warranty extension or trade in for something like a GT3 which I would also do via a main dealer.
Do I worry about this or not? Ferrari is a new thing to me it's a big purchase for me and I can't afford to make a balls of it!
Do I worry about this or not? Ferrari is a new thing to me it's a big purchase for me and I can't afford to make a balls of it!
Funnily enough - I’m thinking of px ing my California for a 458 ( both non turbo v8s). When you buy a used Ferrari It’s amazing how many owners they clock up as most buy them to scratch an itch then get something else. As long as it has been serviced by Ferrari group dealers Though it should be ok. The only thing stopping me getting a 448 is the lack of space in the cabin. I’m tall and the California is big and spacious inside as there is no rear engine bay to stop the seats sliding back. Would love to hear how you get on with the 458 though especially if you are over 6 ft tall, cheers, dan
I wouldn’t worry about it - the number of owners always seems to be high on Ferrari’s (and other similar makes) after a few years. Think this is down to the number of people who only buy these cars for a summer season, and so you can quite quickly rack up the owner numbers.
My car is a 2011 and has 6 previous owners (the first owner only had it for 30 days, so suspect he was a flipper !). Most of the others had the car for 12 months or less and only one of them kept the car for longer than 3 years. It had only done 8875 miles when I bought it, so it’s not as if It had mega usage during any of the ownership periods !
Any pics of your new car ?
My car is a 2011 and has 6 previous owners (the first owner only had it for 30 days, so suspect he was a flipper !). Most of the others had the car for 12 months or less and only one of them kept the car for longer than 3 years. It had only done 8875 miles when I bought it, so it’s not as if It had mega usage during any of the ownership periods !
Any pics of your new car ?
My soon to be delivered Cali T, bought from a Ferrari Main Dealer has 4 previous owners, so I will be the fifth. It’s a 2016 and just 4 years old. This isn’t unique, in fact it seems to be common place for a Ferrari. The previous owner of my Cali had it from Aug 19 to Jun 20. It’s not even a question that seems to be asked, and the dealer has already said they would be keen to have my car back when they entice me into a Portofino/458/488 in the future.
So bottom line, it appears that condition/service history/options list are much more important than number of owners. This is from my perspective anyway.
So bottom line, it appears that condition/service history/options list are much more important than number of owners. This is from my perspective anyway.
Never turn down a great car just because its had five owners in eight years..This is very typical of 458s and other high end cars like Porsche GT3s/RSs etc..The first owner probably sold it for 'overs' as there was a two year waiting list on 458s and so on..The one problem you might have when you come to sell is some Ferrari main dealers won't retail it themselves such as H R Owen..Most others such as Dick Lovett etc don't have a problem with many owners.
fridaypassion said:
So I've done a deal on a 458 from a main dealer hopefully for collection this week. Ran a hpi check for curiosity wondered if it had stocking finance in it. It didn't but it does have 5 owners which means 6 when I get it. Now I work in the trade I sell sports cars and in the area I operate in although it would be a talking point it wouldn't hinder a sale. I will keep the car for 2 years and at that point make a decision to either buy a warranty extension or trade in for something like a GT3 which I would also do via a main dealer.
Do I worry about this or not? Ferrari is a new thing to me it's a big purchase for me and I can't afford to make a balls of it!
Nope. Assuming the car has only been sold thro the Ferrari network, the more the merrier. It will have been restored to new each time. Not so with a private or Indy sale. Then Caviat Emptor rules.Do I worry about this or not? Ferrari is a new thing to me it's a big purchase for me and I can't afford to make a balls of it!
I think it is a problem, not one that can’t be sorted over time, but a problem nonetheless. People who keep cars for just a short time never bond with them. It shows a lack of interest in the car other than it being a shiny toy to play in. Problems often don’t get sorted, they often just get hidden. Cars with multiple short term owners owner are often carrying issues that take at least two services periods to emerge and be rectified. Someone must eventually sit with it when the music stops. Not a problem if you plan on keeping it for a while, and will cherish it and care for it, but can be expensive if not. The price should reflect this, and generally does.
swanseaboydan said:
Funnily enough - I’m thinking of px ing my California for a 458 ( both non turbo v8s). When you buy a used Ferrari It’s amazing how many owners they clock up as most buy them to scratch an itch then get something else. As long as it has been serviced by Ferrari group dealers Though it should be ok. The only thing stopping me getting a 448 is the lack of space in the cabin. I’m tall and the California is big and spacious inside as there is no rear engine bay to stop the seats sliding back. Would love to hear how you get on with the 458 though especially if you are over 6 ft tall, cheers, dan
I went from a Cali to a 458 Italia.I'm just over 6'4". Spiders are marginally too small but the coupe was exactly just big enough inside for me.
Of course, a lot depends on whether you have a long torso or legs or whatever.
Go sit in one?
Saweep said:
swanseaboydan said:
Funnily enough - I’m thinking of px ing my California for a 458 ( both non turbo v8s). When you buy a used Ferrari It’s amazing how many owners they clock up as most buy them to scratch an itch then get something else. As long as it has been serviced by Ferrari group dealers Though it should be ok. The only thing stopping me getting a 448 is the lack of space in the cabin. I’m tall and the California is big and spacious inside as there is no rear engine bay to stop the seats sliding back. Would love to hear how you get on with the 458 though especially if you are over 6 ft tall, cheers, dan
I went from a Cali to a 458 Italia.I'm just over 6'4". Spiders are marginally too small but the coupe was exactly just big enough inside for me.
Of course, a lot depends on whether you have a long torso or legs or whatever.
Go sit in one?
thecook101 said:
I think it is a problem, not one that can’t be sorted over time, but a problem nonetheless. People who keep cars for just a short time never bond with them. It shows a lack of interest in the car other than it being a shiny toy to play in. Problems often don’t get sorted, they often just get hidden. Cars with multiple short term owners owner are often carrying issues that take at least two services periods to emerge and be rectified. Someone must eventually sit with it when the music stops. Not a problem if you plan on keeping it for a while, and will cherish it and care for it, but can be expensive if not. The price should reflect this, and generally does.
Anyone else picture Benedict Cumberbatch saying this?Edited by theRossatron on Monday 22 June 16:49
thecook101 said:
I think it is a problem, not one that can’t be sorted over time, but a problem nonetheless. People who keep cars for just a short time never bond with them. It shows a lack of interest in the car other than it being a shiny toy to play in. Problems often don’t get sorted, they often just get hidden. Cars with multiple short term owners owner are often carrying issues that take at least two services periods to emerge and be rectified. Someone must eventually sit with it when the music stops. Not a problem if you plan on keeping it for a while, and will cherish it and care for it, but can be expensive if not. The price should reflect this, and generally does.
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