458 owners, can you bounce your front end please?
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Hi there
Sorry for the strange request but this morning I noticed on uneven surfaces I could hear what sounds like loose suspension component (faint noise) and when stopping and pulling off the car creaks like an old boat.
Go forward and reverse, creaks like a boat but only after a twenty minute or so drive, it does not do it cold.
So I decided to just push the front suspension down and was alarmed and shocked at how easy the front-end of the car seems to bounce even with car running and in race mode. Making me both front suspension dampers have failed, but surely not at same time and to look at they are bone dry.
So any other owners fancy opening your front boot and just bouncing the suspension, is it easy or hard? Mine is easy like you'd expect say a big old roller to be.
Sorry for the strange request but this morning I noticed on uneven surfaces I could hear what sounds like loose suspension component (faint noise) and when stopping and pulling off the car creaks like an old boat.
Go forward and reverse, creaks like a boat but only after a twenty minute or so drive, it does not do it cold.
So I decided to just push the front suspension down and was alarmed and shocked at how easy the front-end of the car seems to bounce even with car running and in race mode. Making me both front suspension dampers have failed, but surely not at same time and to look at they are bone dry.
So any other owners fancy opening your front boot and just bouncing the suspension, is it easy or hard? Mine is easy like you'd expect say a big old roller to be.
Taffy66 said:
If the dampers are definitely not leaking/misting then its another cause..Mine is rock solid when you push on it..Sorry can't be of further help.!
Sent Ferrari a video of me bouncing the car, their response is totally normal and they see same movement on the MOT brake test.The car does drive fine, apart from the creaking at moving off or backing up which seems to come and go. Handling seems fine and wet, sport and race all impact firmness.
Just worrying you say your car is rock solid, if you open your thrunk and push down with your body weight does your car not move/bounce at all?
Gibbo205 said:
Sent Ferrari a video of me bouncing the car, their response is totally normal and they see same movement on the MOT brake test.
The car does drive fine, apart from the creaking at moving off or backing up which seems to come and go. Handling seems fine and wet, sport and race all impact firmness.
Just worrying you say your car is rock solid, if you open your thrunk and push down with your body weight does your car not move/bounce at all?
Just tried mine (without the engine running). After a couple of "bounces", I could see and feel the car moving up and down, so suspect yours is fine. I didn't try it with the engine running though.The car does drive fine, apart from the creaking at moving off or backing up which seems to come and go. Handling seems fine and wet, sport and race all impact firmness.
Just worrying you say your car is rock solid, if you open your thrunk and push down with your body weight does your car not move/bounce at all?
As per previous posts, if front shocks not weeping they should be fine but, for the record, they are covered under the original warranty from new (I know because I had to have mine done at 6,000 miles/roughly 2 years from new) but they are not normally covered under the extended warranty. Having said that, I don’t suppose there are many 458s still under original warranty.
Gibbo205 said:
Sent Ferrari a video of me bouncing the car, their response is totally normal and they see same movement on the MOT brake test.
The car does drive fine, apart from the creaking at moving off or backing up which seems to come and go. Handling seems fine and wet, sport and race all impact firmness.
Just worrying you say your car is rock solid, if you open your thrunk and push down with your body weight does your car not move/bounce at all?
Maybe i was slightly exaggerating there..I'll pop out now and see what happens to mine.The car does drive fine, apart from the creaking at moving off or backing up which seems to come and go. Handling seems fine and wet, sport and race all impact firmness.
Just worrying you say your car is rock solid, if you open your thrunk and push down with your body weight does your car not move/bounce at all?
Just checked and it seems i was correct as mine does not bounce up and down as you describe..I didn't start it, so does yours do it when switched off.
When i pressed down with some force it moved down about an inch once and nothing else.
Gibbo205 said:
Sent Ferrari a video of me bouncing the car, their response is totally normal and they see same movement on the MOT brake test.
The car does drive fine, apart from the creaking at moving off or backing up which seems to come and go. Handling seems fine and wet, sport and race all impact firmness.
Just worrying you say your car is rock solid, if you open your thrunk and push down with your body weight does your car not move/bounce at all?
As it happens, I had mine MOT tested today and got to watch the whole thing. Bounced about a fair bit during the brake test. Quite alarming but normal apparently! The car does drive fine, apart from the creaking at moving off or backing up which seems to come and go. Handling seems fine and wet, sport and race all impact firmness.
Just worrying you say your car is rock solid, if you open your thrunk and push down with your body weight does your car not move/bounce at all?
This is the noise:
https://youtu.be/uKbiAx3HfCs
You can also see I can bounce car relatively easily needs some force but does say easily engine on or off.
https://youtu.be/PpG2Ps5-cwE
Noise in the car, volume up to here but it is present on uneven roads and pulling off and reversing.
Other than that car seems to handle and drive absolutely fine, Ferrari say the bounce is normal but are yet to see these videos that demonstrate the creak better.
It seems passenger side so are we thinking more in line with ball joints? Can they be greased or is it new bush ball joint or wishbone job?
https://youtu.be/uKbiAx3HfCs
You can also see I can bounce car relatively easily needs some force but does say easily engine on or off.
https://youtu.be/PpG2Ps5-cwE
Noise in the car, volume up to here but it is present on uneven roads and pulling off and reversing.
Other than that car seems to handle and drive absolutely fine, Ferrari say the bounce is normal but are yet to see these videos that demonstrate the creak better.
It seems passenger side so are we thinking more in line with ball joints? Can they be greased or is it new bush ball joint or wishbone job?
F355GTS said:
Did they put it on the brake test rollers ? ??
Yes. It was fine. They also had a jig that checks the steering by kind of sliding the front wheels side to side. All very interesting to see.
Edit: just been out to recreate the first video and you can open the trunk and bounce it up and down like a space hopper but it doesn’t make any noise.
Edited by DT398 on Wednesday 11th March 19:21
That diagram looks wrong to me, the 'Ball Joint' is typically the bearing that links the control arm to the steering knuckle/hub. So it's the chunky looking bearing on the end of the A arm.
https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/part/234965/ferra...
See the big black bearing on the left, it's that bit. It could be that you can't get them on their own, and need to replace the whole arm. I'm sure the tech will work it out.
https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/part/234965/ferra...
See the big black bearing on the left, it's that bit. It could be that you can't get them on their own, and need to replace the whole arm. I'm sure the tech will work it out.
Had similar squeaks, sprayed all suspension joints with 3 in 1 copper spray grease, pulled back the ball joint gators and used the tube supplied with can to apply, worked a treat. Plus engine off pushing down the front drops 25mm to 30mm as a guess, no noise though.
Edited by petrolpat on Thursday 12th March 16:11
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