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When I was looking to buy a F430, my highly respected indie told me that it’s a question of when, not if, the Ferrari manifolds fail. And when they do, the consequences are potentially terminal for the engine (cat ingestion). It’s a fundamental design flaw. So his advice was to budget 5k for a set of new manifolds and 5k for an aftermarket back box. And not to reinstall OE ones as they have not been redesigned.
If you’ve read up on the issue as you say you have, then swapping out the OE manifolds and back box (for one with a less rigid mounting system) is a no brainer.
I didn’t buy an F430 in the end, but if I had, I would have followed his advice. The selling dealer, of course, told me that it was nothing to worry about and that all you need to do is replace the manifolds on condition.... yeah right!
If you’ve read up on the issue as you say you have, then swapping out the OE manifolds and back box (for one with a less rigid mounting system) is a no brainer.
I didn’t buy an F430 in the end, but if I had, I would have followed his advice. The selling dealer, of course, told me that it was nothing to worry about and that all you need to do is replace the manifolds on condition.... yeah right!
johnnyreggae said:
You've read Voicey's 430 pages - I'd take whatever he suggests
I did just that.AP manifolds from Vivid Racing (PM James on Ferrari chat for a reasonable discount!)
Then had them ceramic coated by Zirotec over here.
Had to plug exhaust valves back in once fitted, so sensible noise when sitting at 30mph & 70mph but at full chat it sounds amazing.
WF36 said:
xcentric said:
thanks. Can the Ferrari warranty still apply to a car with non-OEM manifolds?
Nope!ANOpax said:
It seems ironic that Ferrari will only honour the warranty as long as part which is likely to result in a claim remains fitted ...
The warranty only covers engine,gearbox and diff ,anything else is considered consumables and is covered by Ferrari not the supplying dealer so if there is a problem with a claim you would have to rely on the dealer to negotiate your corner on your behalf, i still don't see how a well respected manufacture like Capristo could cause a problem with the items under the warranty but i wasn't going to put it to the test,It does seem strange that if the warranty only covers engine, gearbox and diff, that an exhaust part from a quality manufacturer might invalidate that.....
Am slightly surprised that ti doesn't also cover key suspension components (or even things like trim and suchlike, knowing someone whose interior door handle nearly cost them £1k because, to their surprise, it wasn't covered under warranty on their Aston - they argued strongly and the dealer glued it back on.....)
Does anyone use/know of/recommend any aftermarket warranty that is at least as comprehensive and perhaps broader and less picky?
Am slightly surprised that ti doesn't also cover key suspension components (or even things like trim and suchlike, knowing someone whose interior door handle nearly cost them £1k because, to their surprise, it wasn't covered under warranty on their Aston - they argued strongly and the dealer glued it back on.....)
Does anyone use/know of/recommend any aftermarket warranty that is at least as comprehensive and perhaps broader and less picky?
xcentric said:
It does seem strange that if the warranty only covers engine, gearbox and diff, that an exhaust part from a quality manufacturer might invalidate that.....
Am slightly surprised that ti doesn't also cover key suspension components (or even things like trim and suchlike, knowing someone whose interior door handle nearly cost them £1k because, to their surprise, it wasn't covered under warranty on their Aston - they argued strongly and the dealer glued it back on.....)
Does anyone use/know of/recommend any aftermarket warranty that is at least as comprehensive and perhaps broader and less picky?
Personally I call it a slush fund.Am slightly surprised that ti doesn't also cover key suspension components (or even things like trim and suchlike, knowing someone whose interior door handle nearly cost them £1k because, to their surprise, it wasn't covered under warranty on their Aston - they argued strongly and the dealer glued it back on.....)
Does anyone use/know of/recommend any aftermarket warranty that is at least as comprehensive and perhaps broader and less picky?
Only had one issue while under warranty with gearbox bush (manual) and of course wasn't covered under warranty, they even fitted a Hill Engineering replacement!
xcentric said:
It does seem strange that if the warranty only covers engine, gearbox and diff, that an exhaust part from a quality manufacturer might invalidate that.....
Am slightly surprised that ti doesn't also cover key suspension components (or even things like trim and suchlike, knowing someone whose interior door handle nearly cost them £1k because, to their surprise, it wasn't covered under warranty on their Aston - they argued strongly and the dealer glued it back on.....)Does anyone use/know of/recommend any aftermarket warranty that is at least as comprehensive and perhaps broader and less picky
I think if you had the car for a year or so and the mileage covered was low you could stand your ground and push the supplying dealer to get a claim through on a repair that's not officially covered, ,maybe they pay for the part and you the labour or visa versa if the full claim was turned down just for good will, had a few niggly problems at first which they sorted straight away with no cost to me the car been fine but shouldn't talk to soon as i've only got 14 days left on the warranty,
Am slightly surprised that ti doesn't also cover key suspension components (or even things like trim and suchlike, knowing someone whose interior door handle nearly cost them £1k because, to their surprise, it wasn't covered under warranty on their Aston - they argued strongly and the dealer glued it back on.....)Does anyone use/know of/recommend any aftermarket warranty that is at least as comprehensive and perhaps broader and less picky
I think if you had the car for a year or so and the mileage covered was low you could stand your ground and push the supplying dealer to get a claim through on a repair that's not officially covered, ,maybe they pay for the part and you the labour or visa versa if the full claim was turned down just for good will, had a few niggly problems at first which they sorted straight away with no cost to me the car been fine but shouldn't talk to soon as i've only got 14 days left on the warranty,
Edited by rat rod on Thursday 5th March 23:11
GG33 said:
I fitted Agency Power which sound good and provide a small HP gain. however, they did melt one of the handbrake cables and had to retrofit some heat shielding.
Mine were ceramic coated and even after a good blast the engine bay temps are much lower then with the stock manifolds!Gassing Station | Ferrari V8 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff