Help out my depth don’t want to make an expensive mistake

[P6kmk]

Hi all pheads

Looking at this F430 all advise welcome pup or not ????

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

If link doesn’t work it’s the one up for £69,995 grey 06 and he references Jerri halliwell !!

Edited by P6kmk on Sunday 2nd September 19:53

[P6kmk]

Hi all pheads

Looking at this F430 all advise welcome pup or not ????

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

If link doesn’t work it’s the one up for £69,995 grey 06 and he references Jerri halliwell !!

Edited by P6kmk on Sunday 2nd September 20:02

[mwstewart]

Pay for an inspection, and assuming that's OK budget 8k for contingency maintenance in the first year and you shouldn't go too far wrong.

[Deano84]

mwstewart said:

Pay for an inspection, and assuming that's OK budget 8k for contingency maintenance in the first year and you shouldn't go too far wrong.

This is good advice, it’s worth paying for a Ferrari pre purchase inspection- see below a report I had on a 2011 458, it was eye watering and I ended up pulling out of the purchase as a result.

They are expensive but worth every penny.

Edited by Deano84 on Sunday 2nd September 21:23

[Deano84]

Here is it..... reg blocked for the sake of the current owner

[Deano84]

[Deano84]

It’s come out a bit blurry. £8233- plus cosmetic bodywork repairs which would have amounted to a lot.

Cost me £675 for a 4 hours inspection.

[3FiveFive]

Deano84 said:

It’s come out a bit blurry. £8233- plus cosmetic bodywork repairs which would have amounted to a lot.

Cost me £675 for a 4 hours inspection.

Would you mind sharing which company did the inspection?

[R8Steve]

Personally i would avoid any advert that feels the need to advertise the car with an extremely tenuous link to a celebrity but that's just me.

"previously owned by a person who used to date Geri Halliwell from 'Spice Girls' pop group, she was photographed in the car many times."

[markiii]

I guess it appeals to those who hope the passenger seat has never been cleaned

[Upperworks]

Having owned a Vanquish first and briefly owned by Christian Horner, people often like to make a joke/comment about "Geri's seat."

Currently on sale at Aston Bristol if that's your thing!

[R8Steve]

Deano84 said:

It’s come out a bit blurry. £8233- plus cosmetic bodywork repairs which would have amounted to a lot.

Cost me £675 for a 4 hours inspection.

Seems expensive to me, I don’t really see anything you wouldn’t have spotted yourself given 4 hours to go over the car.

[P6kmk]

Thanks all so far !!

Yes the spice girl thing is a bit strange given the market he’s trying to move it in ( and he’s mentioned he’s had the leather reconolised ( not fully sure what that means but presume it’s now fully de spiced !!!

However was discussing it with my family yesterday during lunch and a spice girls song came on !!! Is it a sign 😂😂😂

A few people have said allow 8 k so not too surprised !! Thanks for the print out !!!

Yes going to spend the money and get it checked out for sure once I find out the location

I’ve got the guy who finds and finances our fleet at work negotiating for me , so will keep you informed, I’m a great believer in if its meant to be !!!

Thanks all again and keep them coming if you justed pick this thread up

[Durzel]

markiii said:

I guess it appeals to those who hope the passenger seat has never been cleaned

[Deano84]

3FiveFive said:

Would you mind sharing which company did the inspection?

Graypaul Birmingham

[Deano84]

R8Steve said:

Seems expensive to me, I don’t really see anything you wouldn’t have spotted yourself given 4 hours to go over the car.

Hi Steve.

I think I would have struggled to see the "Fault in the engine ECM of P1521", which was a £5409.49 repair.

[Durzel]

Deano84 said:

Hi Steve.

I think I would have struggled to see the "Fault in the engine ECM of P1521", which was a £5409.49 repair.

According to a main dealer.

Not casting aspersions but main dealers have a vested interest in selling you their stock, talking up the value of buying from them vs private, etc.

To give an alternative take - take a F430 with 70% clutch wear. I bet any money you would be having a different conversation with a main dealer depending on whether you were buying it or trying to sell it to them. If it was the latter, they would likely be talking about how they would need to change it during the prep, and factor that cost into their offer to you, and if you were buying it - suddenly there is "plenty of life left in it".

Unfortunately if you aren't mechanically minded then an authority telling you that you "need new intake flaps and control mechanism", or that those parts & labour reasonably cost £5400+ - you aren't really in a position to argue.

If it were me looking at that car I'd want a second (and third) opinion on that particular issue. Could it be resolved with an ECU reset? Is it just a point in time error or a constant thing? A cursory Google search suggests there is a flap position sensor in the plenum which can fail, rather than the flaps themselves... if that's faulty, why does the whole assembly and control unit need replacing?

The other stuff on the list is largely wear and tear and I suspect most peoples cars on here would have fine tooth comb "issues" that are similar.

[R8Steve]

Deano84 said:

R8Steve said:

Seems expensive to me, I don’t really see anything you wouldn’t have spotted yourself given 4 hours to go over the car.

Hi Steve.

I think I would have struggled to see the "Fault in the engine ECM of P1521", which was a £5409.49 repair.

A £15 code reader would be able to tell you that.

Out of interest, what car did you end up buying?

[Deano84]

R8Steve said:

A £15 code reader would be able to tell you that.

Out of interest, what car did you end up buying?

Interesting, ill bear that in mind next time thank you.

I bought a Gallardo LP560-4 Spyder instead, when I took it for a service I test drove a Huracan Performante.... subsequently ordered one and that got delivered in May this year.

[Deano84]

Durzel said:

According to a main dealer.

Not casting aspersions but main dealers have a vested interest in selling you their stock, talking up the value of buying from them vs private, etc.

To give an alternative take - take a F430 with 70% clutch wear. I bet any money you would be having a different conversation with a main dealer depending on whether you were buying it or trying to sell it to them. If it was the latter, they would likely be talking about how they would need to change it during the prep, and factor that cost into their offer to you, and if you were buying it - suddenly there is "plenty of life left in it".

Unfortunately if you aren't mechanically minded then an authority telling you that you "need new intake flaps and control mechanism", or that those parts & labour reasonably cost £5400+ - you aren't really in a position to argue.

If it were me looking at that car I'd want a second (and third) opinion on that particular issue. Could it be resolved with an ECU reset? Is it just a point in time error or a constant thing? A cursory Google search suggests there is a flap position sensor in the plenum which can fail, rather than the flaps themselves... if that's faulty, why does the whole assembly and control unit need replacing?

The other stuff on the list is largely wear and tear and I suspect most peoples cars on here would have fine tooth comb "issues" that are similar.

Funny enough they used the report against the owner and ended up buying the car in as stock and resold it themselves- it probably cost them a fraction of what the "cost" of the work was on the report.

Safe to say I would never use them again.