458 v 488 - Video
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This is going to be controversial but I think I agree with the review (apart from the fact that I know a 488 is marginally faster than a 458!?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6jAD2p9Q2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6jAD2p9Q2o
Edited by PrancingHorses on Thursday 23 August 17:45
Jules360 said:
Coincidentally i was tempted to trade in my 458 Spider today for a lovely blue 488 Spider. Had all the extras, lots of carbon etc, but after a short drive i couldn't bring myself to do the trade. 488 seems quicker but just doesn't make the same noise.
I did exactly the same. Pista Spider pics around now though, if I could get one of those...........I enjoyed watching that! Thanks for sharing.
Completely agree. I was invited to drive a 488 on track, it was fun for sure especially with the instructor. Oddly though, I was looking as forward to hop in to my 458 and drive home.
I think the 488 is probably faster but it’s definitely not got the same theatre.
Completely agree. I was invited to drive a 488 on track, it was fun for sure especially with the instructor. Oddly though, I was looking as forward to hop in to my 458 and drive home.
I think the 488 is probably faster but it’s definitely not got the same theatre.
I disagree with the video. I could have bought either car and choose the 488. I drove both back to back on the track and it was no contest. The 488 is much faster. For me it also looks better.
The video seems a little biased I mean, they say things like the 458 does not handle as well and is not as planted but that makes it better 😂😂🤣
It's all personal opinion though.
The video seems a little biased I mean, they say things like the 458 does not handle as well and is not as planted but that makes it better 😂😂🤣
It's all personal opinion though.
Edited by LIVENT on Monday 27th August 21:28
Edited by LIVENT on Monday 27th August 21:28
Edited by LIVENT on Monday 27th August 21:35
LIVENT said:
I disagree with the video. I could have bought either car and choose the 488. I drove both back to back on the track and it was no contest. The 488 is much faster. For me it also looks better.
It's personal opinion though.
The 488 is probably better in every measureable way but misses the N/A V8. The 458 at least sounds okIt's personal opinion though.
Edited by LIVENT on Monday 27th August 21:28
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RamboLambo said:
LIVENT said:
I disagree with the video. I could have bought either car and choose the 488. I drove both back to back on the track and it was no contest. The 488 is much faster. For me it also looks better.
It's personal opinion though.
The 488 is probably better in every measureable way but misses the N/A V8. The 458 at least sounds okIt's personal opinion though.
Edited by LIVENT on Monday 27th August 21:28
Edited by LIVENT on Monday 27th August 21:28
I like both N/A and turbocharged engines but where the Naturally Aspirated engine really scores is the sound and instant throttle response.
Been out in both the McLaren 675LT Spider and Lamborghini Huracan Performante today and I would hate to have to choose between them.
When asked which one is best I struggle to give a definitive answer as they are both awesome in their different ways. The McLaren is far less compromised and a better overall car but there is still something special about that V10 N/A engine and soundtrack that accompanies it.
I think that is why their is so much love for the 458 v the 488
Been out in both the McLaren 675LT Spider and Lamborghini Huracan Performante today and I would hate to have to choose between them.
When asked which one is best I struggle to give a definitive answer as they are both awesome in their different ways. The McLaren is far less compromised and a better overall car but there is still something special about that V10 N/A engine and soundtrack that accompanies it.
I think that is why their is so much love for the 458 v the 488
Like a few of the other comments, i’ve tried to pursade myself to stump up the cash to move into a 488 GTB from my 458 Italia. As already mentioned in some of the other comments above, I agree the 488 is a ‘better car’ in most areas but still not convinced i’d enjoy it any more than what i’ve got and after an extended test drive didn’t get the ‘need to have one’ buzz. Maybe i’d feel differently if I tracked it, which isn’t something i’d do....
My wife, who couldn’t be more disinterested in cars if she tried, summarised the 488 quite nicely after a long test. ‘Seems like a facelifted 458 but with an engine that pulls like a diesel’. Although i’m not saying I agree 100%, I think there’s certainly some merit in her comment. I can’t help feeling that when the 488 is replaced in a couple of years, with a clean sheet design, that history may not be too kind to it. That would be unfair as it’s a superb car. But, it will always be the first car of the turbo area that put the nail in the coffin of the last n/a 8 cylinder Ferrari. It was only after driving a 488 that I realised just how much of my Ferrari ownership ‘joy’ is linked to that final 1,000 revs as the needle approaches 9k!
My wife, who couldn’t be more disinterested in cars if she tried, summarised the 488 quite nicely after a long test. ‘Seems like a facelifted 458 but with an engine that pulls like a diesel’. Although i’m not saying I agree 100%, I think there’s certainly some merit in her comment. I can’t help feeling that when the 488 is replaced in a couple of years, with a clean sheet design, that history may not be too kind to it. That would be unfair as it’s a superb car. But, it will always be the first car of the turbo area that put the nail in the coffin of the last n/a 8 cylinder Ferrari. It was only after driving a 488 that I realised just how much of my Ferrari ownership ‘joy’ is linked to that final 1,000 revs as the needle approaches 9k!
If you have not driven the 488 on the track you won't really notice the differences. On the track if you can drive a bit the 488 is a massive step up. These cars are far too fast to be driven properly on the road.
I also own a diesel range rover. You should come drive that and then drive my 488 to realise how ridiculous the deisel comment is.
The 458 is a great car, I can see why people would not upgrade to the 488 as it is so good, but that does not mean the 488 is not a better car and some of the comments in the video are quite frankly ridiculous.
I also own a diesel range rover. You should come drive that and then drive my 488 to realise how ridiculous the deisel comment is.
The 458 is a great car, I can see why people would not upgrade to the 488 as it is so good, but that does not mean the 488 is not a better car and some of the comments in the video are quite frankly ridiculous.
I agree with the last post. I have driven the 488 quite a bit on track and it is a much much better car than the 458, particularly for one of modest abilities such as me. If you want your F car to be an accomplished track tool, there is to me anyway a night and day difference - even more than the two second difference at Fiorano would suggest. With the 488, it is just planted and very progressive at the edge of grip whereas the 458 can be a good bit more edgy, which makes a person (as I said one of modest abilities) back off a bit. Basically your gran would drive a sub 8 minute time around the 'Ring in one.
However, I just prefer my 458 as a road car. The 488 is just ridiculously fast to the extent that it takes away from the experience, oddly enough. That overtake? Blink. Over. That long straight you wanted to enjoy. Blink. Over. And you have reached a terminal velocity that could mean jail without severe restraint.
And I'm getting another track car anyway as it's too expensive to track the 458 much (e.g. broken ceramics this year at the cost of a track car).
However, I just prefer my 458 as a road car. The 488 is just ridiculously fast to the extent that it takes away from the experience, oddly enough. That overtake? Blink. Over. That long straight you wanted to enjoy. Blink. Over. And you have reached a terminal velocity that could mean jail without severe restraint.
And I'm getting another track car anyway as it's too expensive to track the 458 much (e.g. broken ceramics this year at the cost of a track car).
LIVENT said:
If you have not driven the 488 on the track you won't really notice the differences. On the track if you can drive a bit the 488 is a massive step up. These cars are far too fast to be driven properly on the road.
I also own a diesel range rover. You should come drive that and then drive my 488 to realise how ridiculous the deisel comment is.
The 458 is a great car, I can see why people would not upgrade to the 488 as it is so good, but that does not mean the 488 is not a better car and some of the comments in the video are quite frankly ridiculous.
Both these guys own these guys - i.e they both have a 488 and a 458 so although their views are their own they are in a good place to provide them IMHO. They infact own a whole lot of other cars too if you see their videos I also own a diesel range rover. You should come drive that and then drive my 488 to realise how ridiculous the deisel comment is.
The 458 is a great car, I can see why people would not upgrade to the 488 as it is so good, but that does not mean the 488 is not a better car and some of the comments in the video are quite frankly ridiculous.
I'm seriously looking to get a Ferrari to replace my GT3 as i fancy a change and i want to own a Ferrari..I love both 458 and 488 equally for the obvious reasons in speed versus noise..The attraction of the 488 is its newer with 5-6 years left of Ferrari's service plan. This is ofset to large degree as i can buy a nice 458 for about £50k less than the 488.
Over say a year or two which will lose less in depreciation bearing in mind that the service plan will have elapsed on the 458..FWIW i have never driven either and by doing so i might favour one over the other..
Over say a year or two which will lose less in depreciation bearing in mind that the service plan will have elapsed on the 458..FWIW i have never driven either and by doing so i might favour one over the other..
Edited by Taffy66 on Tuesday 28th August 12:43
PrancingHorses said:
A yearly service on a 458 would cost between £800-£1200 so not really bank breaking IMHO.
That's surprisingly good news..I really enjoyed the video as they detailed a lot of the aesthetics differences as well as the driving..IMO i just can't see the 458 depreciating much unless there is an overall economic meltdown..Plus £50K is a huge wad of cash..!Gassing Station | Ferrari V8 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff