Anyone know this 458 - and also.... Red or Black... hmmm

Anyone know this 458 - and also.... Red or Black... hmmm

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gcpeters

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982 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Hi Everyone

I am going to make the leap and change from my 430 to a 458, the 430 is the usual Rosso Corsa, Cream Daytona's and is immaculate...

Im looking at a couple of cars but what are other peoples experiences of reselling a black Ferrari? Harder? dealers always trying to chip you down because its Nero? Personally i like both, but lean towards Rossa Corsa

this is the car in question - http://preowned.ferrari.com/en/gb/search/2011/ferr...

Thoughts? It looks a great spec to me, anyone know it?

thanks!

The Surveyor

7,581 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Surly colour is a non-issue when you're buying pre-owned.

Resale red or nero will be priced accordingly when you're buying as much as when you're selling.

Personally, buy the car in the colour you like and enjoy the ownership rather than a colour a future buyer may prefer.

gcpeters

Original Poster:

982 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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The Surveyor said:
Surly colour is a non-issue when you're buying pre-owned.

Resale red or nero will be priced accordingly when you're buying as much as when you're selling.

Personally, buy the car in the colour you like and enjoy the ownership rather than a colour a future buyer may prefer.
Thats the thing, I like both Red and also Black..... decisions decisions....


Kyodo

733 posts

130 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Red looks nice with a black roof - that's probably what I'd choose and I'm sure you could have the top wrapped on an all-red car.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Its a Ferrari sports car so its got to be red IMHO unless its a GT car where black seems more suitable.
Also black is a pig to keep clean and if you are OCD like me about how the car looks you will end up cleaning it more than you drive it

dalenorth

866 posts

173 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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I have a very similar spec 458 in Nero. The car looks awesome - go for it!!!

jtremlett

1,422 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Stratstone's own website has the price £5k cheaper.

It was for sale through Meridien in Jan 2014 with 5,000 miles at £164,995 then £159,995 in Mar 2014.

For sale through Stratstone's in Jul 2016 with10,450 miles at £164,994.

For sale through Stratstone's from Jul 2017 with 15,591 miles at £159,995; price reduced to £156,009 in Aug 2017; price reduced to £154,346 in Sep 2017; price reduced to £151,065 in Oct 2017 then increased to £153,794 later in Oct 2017; then decreased to £151,294 in Nov 2017; then to £153,794 later in Nov 2017; to £154,995 in Dec 2017; to £152,887 for Christmas! to £154,128 in Jan 2018; to £159,047 in Feb 2018; to £154,128 in Mar 2018 and finally to £149,994 in the last few days (just not on Ferrari Approved).

Anyone like to explain the pyschology behind Stratstone's random number pricing?

Jonathan

WCZ

10,741 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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in slide 15 there are hairs visible, no deal imo

gcpeters

Original Poster:

982 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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jtremlett said:
Stratstone's own website has the price £5k cheaper.

It was for sale through Meridien in Jan 2014 with 5,000 miles at £164,995 then £159,995 in Mar 2014.

For sale through Stratstone's in Jul 2016 with10,450 miles at £164,994.

For sale through Stratstone's from Jul 2017 with 15,591 miles at £159,995; price reduced to £156,009 in Aug 2017; price reduced to £154,346 in Sep 2017; price reduced to £151,065 in Oct 2017 then increased to £153,794 later in Oct 2017; then decreased to £151,294 in Nov 2017; then to £153,794 later in Nov 2017; to £154,995 in Dec 2017; to £152,887 for Christmas! to £154,128 in Jan 2018; to £159,047 in Feb 2018; to £154,128 in Mar 2018 and finally to £149,994 in the last few days (just not on Ferrari Approved).

Anyone like to explain the pyschology behind Stratstone's random number pricing?

Jonathan
that is random! How did you get the past listings? very interested to hear more!

gcpeters

Original Poster:

982 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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WCZ said:
in slide 15 there are hairs visible, no deal imo
good catch, that could be the deal breaker....

jtremlett

1,422 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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gcpeters said:
that is random! How did you get the past listings? very interested to hear more!
I keep records!

Ferruccio

1,840 posts

125 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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jtremlett said:
gcpeters said:
that is random! How did you get the past listings? very interested to hear more!
I keep records!
I love the facts.

bordseye

2,023 posts

198 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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The Surveyor said:
Surly colour is a non-issue when you're buying pre-owned.

Resale red or nero will be priced accordingly when you're buying as much as when you're selling.

Personally, buy the car in the colour you like and enjoy the ownership rather than a colour a future buyer may prefer.
There is logic in that post - no reason to think that the discount for black against red will be any different on resale than on purchase.

Personally I wouldnt want to be mistaken for an undertaker.

Roof down

301 posts

132 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Sorry it simply has to be red, cream interior, black just does not do it! Well not for me anyway

LIVENT

196 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Red for me too with crema interior. I had a black sports car for a while, keeping it clean was a nightmare, I spent hours polishing it.

Mind you its not your first Ferrari so another colour is acceptable wink

Yoda266

2 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Sooo much nicer in black...
I have one in nearly the exact same spec, looking to sell I the next few weeks if your interested.
2012
Nero stellato
9100 miles
One year Ferrari warranty left

gcpeters

Original Poster:

982 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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gcpeters said:
jtremlett said:
Stratstone's own website has the price £5k cheaper.

It was for sale through Meridien in Jan 2014 with 5,000 miles at £164,995 then £159,995 in Mar 2014.

For sale through Stratstone's in Jul 2016 with10,450 miles at £164,994.

For sale through Stratstone's from Jul 2017 with 15,591 miles at £159,995; price reduced to £156,009 in Aug 2017; price reduced to £154,346 in Sep 2017; price reduced to £151,065 in Oct 2017 then increased to £153,794 later in Oct 2017; then decreased to £151,294 in Nov 2017; then to £153,794 later in Nov 2017; to £154,995 in Dec 2017; to £152,887 for Christmas! to £154,128 in Jan 2018; to £159,047 in Feb 2018; to £154,128 in Mar 2018 and finally to £149,994 in the last few days (just not on Ferrari Approved).

Anyone like to explain the pyschology behind Stratstone's random number pricing?

Jonathan
that is random! How did you get the past listings? very interested to hear more!
Wonder why the had it for a year though... i would have thought with the spec and around 150k it would have sold by now. maybe wrong time of year..

MrVert

4,422 posts

245 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Colour is less important on a 458 IMO, the dark colours really suit it. I went black F430 then Grigio Silverstone 458, sold both without much problem for gains.

That patricular one looks toppy on price to me, with that mileage trade bid would be circa £130-£135k max at the moment.

If you're getting one, I would definitely go for carbon racing seats, you sit lower and they're comfy and look gorgeous.

Good luck with the search thumbup

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

213 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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That car has been up for sale for over 12 months now and not because it is black but probably other reasons redface

I have seen black cars come and go within weeks as there are many who don't want a Ferrari in a loud colour.

I wanted a Black 458 and not a red one for my own reasons that I will not say on here as it may offend some here hehe (Look at me I won the lottery and bought a red Ferrari) getmecoat

I will be selling mine soon - sending you a PM wink





Edited by PrancingHorses on Tuesday 27th March 21:30

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

213 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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MrVert said:
If you're getting one, I would definitely go for carbon racing seats, you sit lower and they're comfy and look gorgeous.
Completely disagree - I went for the full electric seats as found them much more comfortable for going cross continent - each to their own smile