would you fit pre-owned tyres?

would you fit pre-owned tyres?

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fcefalu

Original Poster:

14 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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Hi guys, would you fit on your car pre-owned but never used tyres? Need to replace shoes to my 2010 Cali, and on the bay there is a set of brand new wheels and tyres that would cost me as much as buying new tyres from the shop.... My concerns are related to the fact that these tyres are 2014 DOT, produced 3 years ago, Too old? Thanks for your advices!

TISPKJ

3,652 posts

214 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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I think as long as they have not been used and stored correctly you will be fine.
If wheels are new then use old original for winter or track tyres or just sell on.

Craigwww

853 posts

176 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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Surely buying a new set of tyres from an independant tyre dealer would be far cheaper than buying from the dealership and probably cheaper than your ebay set too.

Lamborghini wanted to charge me over 2k for two rear Pirellis, I got them from an independent for 600 for the pair.

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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Craigwww said:
Surely buying a new set of tyres from an independant tyre dealer would be far cheaper than buying from the dealership and probably cheaper than your ebay set too.

Lamborghini wanted to charge me over 2k for two rear Pirellis, I got them from an independent for 600 for the pair.
Not necessarily. For my CLK63 and my 575, main dealers beat the internet quotes I received.

Yipper

5,964 posts

97 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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General rule of thumb is that 5 years and above is when tyres start to age. If you're going to be doing high speed (on a track, of course), it may be best to fit brandnew tyres.

fcefalu

Original Poster:

14 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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i own a California, will never be taken to a track... just a cruising weekend beauty....

Durzel

12,461 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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My Ferrari dealer wanted to charge me £1400 for 4 Michelin PSS. Online they were £800. Ended up getting the dealer to fit them (wanted accountability for any alloy or undertray damage) and they charged me a fair whack for the privilege but it was still a massive saving.

Just buy tyres online? Probably be cheaper than a set of wheels & tyres that you don't need.

fcefalu

Original Poster:

14 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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800 sounds like it's the right price for brand new shoes...

DarrenKMC

204 posts

109 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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Not uncommon for "New" tyres to already be dated 12-18 months when talking about low volume compounds, bear in mind Pirelli or Michelin etc may only produce a certain size/pattern/compound for a few days a year with that supply programmed to last 12 months and then shipped around the world to service each market's projected needs.
If you're buying from a trusted source I'd have no issue with "New" 3 year old wheels/tyres.

Cerberaherts

1,651 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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DarrenKMC said:
Not uncommon for "New" tyres to already be dated 12-18 months when talking about low volume compounds, bear in mind Pirelli or Michelin etc may only produce a certain size/pattern/compound for a few days a year with that supply programmed to last 12 months and then shipped around the world to service each market's projected needs.
If you're buying from a trusted source I'd have no issue with "New" 3 year old wheels/tyres.
Id say that's far from common whatever the compound. Also, We are talking about a Cali here not a mega low production model. Some of the "pile them high sell them low" internet retailers have a habit of snapping up stocks of older tyres but I would certainly not be happy with a tyre that was already 18 months old upon purchase.

fcefalu

Original Poster:

14 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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thanks , interesting debate....

DarrenKMC

204 posts

109 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Cerberaherts said:
Id say that's far from common whatever the compound. Also, We are talking about a Cali here not a mega low production model. Some of the "pile them high sell them low" internet retailers have a habit of snapping up stocks of older tyres but I would certainly not be happy with a tyre that was already 18 months old upon purchase.
Ferrari made approx 2-2.5k cars per year for just under 6 years, it's still a very low production car, also bear in mind there were two wheel sizes and two tyre manufacturers who were type approved at the time...

If we talk about the more common Pirelli, from memory, the 19" tyres were shared with the 612 while the 20" were unique to the Cali.
If Pirelli produce X amount of tyres on Week 1 of the year that will be the planned production for the whole year, at the end of the year they will of course assess the demand and if there is still stock in the marketplace they will prioritise other DOTs perhaps meaning next year's production will be scheduled for week 10/20/30 etc - Suddenly the newest tyre in the world is 14/16/18 months old.

Would I be concerned about buying an 18 month old "New" tyre? No.
A 3 year old new tyre that I'm satisfied has been stored correctly? No.
But I wouldn't expect to pay full retail price of course, it should reflect that fact and from the OP it does.

fcefalu

Original Poster:

14 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Thanks Darren, in my case i have my eyes on a full set of wheels and tyres that were taken off a brand new car. Although i don't need a new set of wheels, My wheels have some mark hence at the right price it would be easier and cheaper just to replace the full set... and then i might try to sell my old wheels

Cerberaherts

1,651 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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DarrenKMC said:
Ferrari made approx 2-2.5k cars per year for just under 6 years, it's still a very low production car, also bear in mind there were two wheel sizes and two tyre manufacturers who were type approved at the time...

If we talk about the more common Pirelli, from memory, the 19" tyres were shared with the 612 while the 20" were unique to the Cali.
If Pirelli produce X amount of tyres on Week 1 of the year that will be the planned production for the whole year, at the end of the year they will of course assess the demand and if there is still stock in the marketplace they will prioritise other DOTs perhaps meaning next year's production will be scheduled for week 10/20/30 etc - Suddenly the newest tyre in the world is 14/16/18 months old.

Would I be concerned about buying an 18 month old "New" tyre? No.
A 3 year old new tyre that I'm satisfied has been stored correctly? No.
But I wouldn't expect to pay full retail price of course, it should reflect that fact and from the OP it does.
I wouldn't call a vehicle with a production run of over 15000 particularly low volume. I deal with both Ferrari and Aston Martin, and the much lower production run vanquish has never had issues with tyre supply to the correct make and compound. Same for the older Ferraris. With the exception of the scuderias that had issues with tyre formulation early in its production run, the only Ferrari I have/had issues with obtaining are 456 rears and the occasional metric tyre supply issue.

DarrenKMC

204 posts

109 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Cerberaherts said:
I wouldn't call a vehicle with a production run of over 15000 particularly low volume. I deal with both Ferrari and Aston Martin, and the much lower production run vanquish has never had issues with tyre supply to the correct make and compound. Same for the older Ferraris. With the exception of the scuderias that had issues with tyre formulation early in its production run, the only Ferrari I have/had issues with obtaining are 456 rears and the occasional metric tyre supply issue.
Well whatever you like to call it, it is low volume and from a tyre manufacturer point of view its very low volume.
The car in question is out of production for coming up to 3 years now so the supply will be greatly reduced compared to when it was a current model and they had to maintain volumes for type approval.

I can't speak for Aston's, to be fair I have very little experience with them, but Ferrari's have had regular supply issues in the 18 years I've been involved with the marque and I know the effort the UK tyre distributor who administers the Ferrari programme goes through to get stock allocated abroad to the UK to meet our demands here.

The point for the OP was regarding is a 3yr old NOS safe to fit, so in this instance supply isn't in question anyhow.

PAUL500

2,766 posts

253 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Worry more about the guy behind you in the Vectra with 15yr old Linglongs fitted as he brakes hard to avoid you in the rain, or the taxi driver taking you home in a similar car at 3am doing 90 mpg up the dual carriageway than fitting virtually brand new unused tyres to your car.