Ferrari 360 Challange Stradale F1 Warning light

[Royalr]

Hi Guys,

Not driven my car much this year and has been standing for a few months. Tried to start today and it struggled to start and noticed the the F1 warning light and the ASR warning came on and a long warning beep.

I opened the engine bay and could hear the f1 throttle clicking. The car starts but runs very rough

Has anybody got an idea what could be the problem?

[voicey]

It is very common for warning lights to appear when cranking the engine with a low battery, especially the ASR light. When the respective ECU is robbed of power it displays a fault.

However, without reading the codes it is hard to say what faults are logged in your case.

[AmoCS]

Is the CEL on?
If not, reset the power by the battery cut-off switch.

[Royalr]

yes the check engine light is on.

[cgt2]

Try the battery reset as recommended above. When turning the car back on let it idle for 3-4 minutes.

[Royalr]

cgt2 said:

Try the battery reset as recommended above. When turning the car back on let it idle for 3-4 minutes.

I turned if off with the cut off switch over night. I'll start it later today and let it idle for 4 minutes.

Will let you know how I got on.

Thanks

[mike01606]

Make sure the battery is good before you try again as per Voicey's advice.

I had a similar issue with the ASR light when cranking that I chased to a poor earth connection off the battery cut-off switch. Same effect (low voltage), different cause.....

[Royalr]

mike01606 said:

Make sure the battery is good before you try again as per Voicey's advice.

I had a similar issue with the ASR light when cranking that I chased to a poor earth connection off the battery cut-off switch. Same effect (low voltage), different cause.....

Didn't start it but put the ignition on was was still continuously beeping with fault light, put it on trickle charge and will start it tomorrow. Also cut the power from the battery cut off switch.

Will see what happens tomorrow.

[DarrenKMC]

After the battery has been isolated/disconnected/flat you also need to leave the ignition on for a couple of minutes BEFORE trying to start the car.
There are certain self tests the ECUs will run at this point and starting the car too quickly is often a cause for rough running on 360's including Strads, not to suggest that has anything to do with your initial problem.

[Royalr]

quick update, left it on trickle charge all night and did all of the above but still no luck.

[AmoCS]

Sounds very much like a bad battery.

[voicey]

DarrenKMC said:

After the battery has been isolated/disconnected/flat you also need to leave the ignition on for a couple of minutes BEFORE trying to start the car.
There are certain self tests the ECUs will run at this point and starting the car too quickly is often a cause for rough running on 360's including Strads, not to suggest that has anything to do with your initial problem.

10 seconds is enough - it's for the throttle bodies to perform their adaptive self learn.

[moon_dust]

Your ECU has blown.........

Your in for a whole heap of hassle now i am afraid.......been there done that

pm me your number and i will tell you all about it

The reason it starts is because there are two ECU's one for the left and right
hand bank of the engine, one has the alarm code burnt into it

The rough running is because one bank of cylinders is down because one of the ECU's has blown
and the engine is running on one bank

Contact me if you need to discuss and i will tell you what a nightmare your in for

Edited by moon_dust on Wednesday 30th November 22:29

[ThreesixtyM]

You need to get it connected to an SD2/3. It could be a bad ECU, but when one of mine went down the car wouldn't start at all, so it may be something else, such as a faulty throttle body.
(If swapping the ECUs over moves the fault to the other bank, then it is ECU related.)
Note: right ECU controls left bank and vice versa.
If you do need a replacement ECU don't go to Ferrari, there are much cheaper options.
Best of luck. As said above, feel free to drop me a line.

[moon_dust]

ThreesixtyM is right you must check (I think we spoke about this before)

But from what you are saying, the loud beep, ticking throttle body etc

Its the ECU i reckon.....................

Ferrari dont sell them and when i last checked they arent about to either

The only pair i know of are used at Euros for £1800.00 a pair and if they dont work you will get 2 fingers up in regards to a refund so make sure you are 100%

But as i say it bears all the hallmarks of an ECU failure and all i can say is good luck in getting hold of one

I would be interested in the cheaper options as without a pair of blanks i dont know if this is possible?
All i know is they are Bosch motronic and have been fiddled with by Ferrari and i dont know of any being repaired to date

Edited by moon_dust on Thursday 1st December 11:55

Edited by moon_dust on Thursday 1st December 11:56

[Royalr]

ThreesixtyM said:

You need to get it connected to an SD2/3. It could be a bad ECU, but when one of mine went down the car wouldn't start at all, so it may be something else, such as a faulty throttle body.
(If swapping the ECUs over moves the fault to the other bank, then it is ECU related.)
Note: right ECU controls left bank and vice versa.
If you do need a replacement ECU don't go to Ferrari, there are much cheaper options.
Best of luck. As said above, feel free to drop me a line.

thanks for the info what are the cheaper option?

[ThreesixtyM]

Royalr said:

thanks for the info what are the cheaper option?

It's possible to have the Strad ECU data flashed across to blank ECUs (I assume this would also work with Modena ECUs) There are independents who can do this.
Ferrari do supply them. I was told the cost was almost £3k for a pair ! They won't sell singles.

[Roof down]

moon_dust said:

Your ECU has blown.........

Your in for a whole heap of hassle now i am afraid.......been there done that

pm me your number and i will tell you all about it

The reason it starts is because there are two ECU's one for the left and right
hand bank of the engine, one has the alarm code burnt into it

The rough running is because one bank of cylinders is down because one of the ECU's has blown
and the engine is running on one bank

Contact me if you need to discuss and i will tell you what a nightmare your in for

Could you briefly tell me the outcome etc of your 360 throttle/ ECU problem, I have exactly the same, many thanks Mike

Edited by moon_dust on Wednesday 30th November 22:29

[Royalr]

had to have both the ecu's replaced one had blown but ferrari only sold as a pair

[Roof down]

Royalr said:

had to have both the ecu's replaced one had blown but ferrari only sold as a pair

Do you mind my asking did You have to have them programmed and what was the cost?
Mines in for the very same but is having the immobiliser matched as well, my 360 has been at the garage nigh on eight weeks, many thanks Mike