458 Speciale Oil

458 Speciale Oil

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And

Original Poster:

191 posts

264 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Guessing the engine is probably going to consume a bit of oil, should I be carrying a spare litre in the boot just in case computer says its thirsty?

BruceC

373 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Definitely not. Have done 5000 miles including 5 track days with no top ups needed

steelej

1,761 posts

214 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I always have a litre in the boot of my 430 just in case, but have never needed it.

John.

Anjum

1,605 posts

291 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I've done 6,000 a quite a few track days. I have topped up with one litre, and have a spare in the boot!

boxerTen

502 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Same here. 2,000 miles, a couple of track days, maybe 1/4 litre oil used.

red_duke

800 posts

188 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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I thought there was a strict procedure for topping up the oil level on these dry sump V8s. Overfilling is all too easy and can have severe consequences?

And

Original Poster:

191 posts

264 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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Oh right that's reassuring to know it should be good between services. What's the correct grade? Wouldn't dare pull of the driveway in my m3 which routinely drinks a half a litre every few thousand miles...

And

Original Poster:

191 posts

264 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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BruceC said:
Definitely not. Have done 5000 miles including 5 track days with no top ups needed
Yeah but didn't you have the oil changed after each trackday? Thought there was some bumff about this being required to keep the warranty intact?

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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And said:
What's the correct grade?
Check owners handbook just in case it is different to the regular Ferrari badged stuff from Halfords

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

150 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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red_duke said:
I thought there was a strict procedure for topping up the oil level on these dry sump V8s. Overfilling is all too easy and can have severe consequences?
Correct sir.

Due to the dry sump the engine needs to be HOT 80' - 90' and then dip to check (use a cloth to unscrew the cap as it will burn you). Best oil is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40. Probably no need to keep oil in the car, I personally would be stressing in case of a spill. I check regularly and before a long run...

Hope that helps.

And

Original Poster:

191 posts

264 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
Correct sir.

Due to the dry sump the engine needs to be HOT 80' - 90' and then dip to check (use a cloth to unscrew the cap as it will burn you). Best oil is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40. Probably no need to keep oil in the car, I personally would be stressing in case of a spill. I check regularly and before a long run...

Hope that helps.
Brilliant thanks for the info, I'm surprised this engine uses such a run of the mill oil having been pouring racing-this, RS-that in large capacity revvy engines of other marques over the years

F17 GTB

54 posts

118 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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UK Speciale owner's manual says Shell Helix Ultra 10W-60 with a 10 litre capacity, 2 litre between min & max on the dipstick
Oil level to be checked with engine idling which is unusual

purpleperil

1,214 posts

291 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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F17 GTB said:
UK Speciale owner's manual says Shell Helix Ultra 10W-60 with a 10 litre capacity, 2 litre between min & max on the dipstick
Oil level to be checked with engine idling which is unusual
10W-60 Really? Different to bog standard 458 then



rjn21

289 posts

171 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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From Ferrari's fluids and lubricants table as at December 2014, they do list a difference between 458 and speciale (A):

Engine oil

SHELL Helix Ultra Racing
SAE 10W-60

599 GTB Fiorano
599 GTO
SA Aperta
FF
F12berlinetta
LaFerrari
458 Speciale
458 Speciale A


Engine oil

SHELL Helix Ultra
SAE 5W-40

F430
F430 Spider
430 Scuderia
16M Scuderia Spider
612 Scaglietti
612 Sessanta
California
California T
458 Italia
458 Spider

F355GTS

3,745 posts

262 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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BruceC said:
Definitely not. Have done 5000 miles including 5 track days with no top ups needed
5k miles and a track slag = worthless biggrin

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Saturday 19th December 2015
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F17 GTB said:
UK Speciale owner's manual says Shell Helix Ultra 10W-60
Top-up litres most readily available on Ebay

4rephill

5,067 posts

185 months

Saturday 19th December 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
.....Probably no need to keep oil in the car, I personally would be stressing in case of a spill....
My 348 came with Shell Helix 1 litre oil bottle holder that has velcro on the back that grips to the front boot carpet like a limpet! - There's no chance of it ever falling over!

You can buy similar velcro backed 1 litre bottle holders on Ebay, and if the Speciale doesn't have any carpet (as I believe), you can buy self adhesive backed velcro from you local DIY store - Some of which is rated as being capable of holding 7Kg (so holding a 1 litre oil bottle shouldn't be a problem!).

You could even just apply the velcro to the bottle itself and to the car and leave out the holder, but the holder would make it look tidier.