Are 355's selling?

Are 355's selling?

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W111AAM

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657 posts

239 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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In the process of renewing the insurance for my 355, so thought I'd look in the classified to see what kind of value I need to insure it for now. Couldn't quite believe the prices been asked. The cheapest RHD Berlinetta was around the £85k mark. For a manual RHD car like mine they all seem to be 6 figures now. Are they actually selling at this? My premium is going to jump a bit! Currently insured for £60k!

allister

569 posts

154 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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YIKES - £60k!!!! You won't even get a high mileage LHD for that!!

You'll need a big increase on that figure and yes I'm almost certain you'll be looking at six figures.

As it ever been a wright-off?
How many miles are on the clock?
Does it have a full history?
Colour combo?

Edited by allister on Friday 20th November 14:55

W111AAM

Original Poster:

657 posts

239 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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As it ever been a wright-off? No
How many miles are on the clock? 43000
Does it have a full history? Not far off!
Colour combo? TdF Blue/Tan



phib

4,488 posts

266 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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I have just had the same issue (well first world issue !!)

Mine 355 went from insured for £50k to £100k and my 550 from £50k to £80k and yes the insurance hike was painful !!

Mines a red /crème, 5.2, rhd spider, 39k, full history no damage

Phib

allister

569 posts

154 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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I'm certainly not qualified to give you an exact figure, all I can say is that if it were mine, I would be looking to insure the car for at least £100 - £110k (depending on year).

Even if it's an early model, if you had to replace it tomorrow, you'd be lucky to get any change out of £100k - That's if you could find one!! (which you'd struggle to do, particularly a RHD manual).

There are specialist insurers out there who will insure for "actual value", rather than what many consider to be "market value"

I'm sure there are others within the community who will read this thread, who will be able to point you in the right direction?

priley

505 posts

195 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Well Slade's Garage appear to be shifting them and with a several thousand pound increase on each subsequent one. I raised my insured value from £70k to £100 this year ('95 GTS, Red/Crema, 29k miles, history etc) and combined with my Dino Spider, for which I did the same, it was an uncomfortable hike if a seriously First World problem.

jenzo

354 posts

248 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Has anyone on here bought a 355 in excess of 100K over the last 6 months or know of anyone who has?

phib

4,488 posts

266 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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jenzo said:
Has anyone on here bought a 355 in excess of 100K over the last 6 months or know of anyone who has?
Yes, one of our friends ( yes a genuine friend !!) bought a GTB in what I thought was rough condition in my view.

But it was the best Red / cream RHD GTB at the time, he paid £110k

I don't think it was the best deal but hey he was desperate

Phib

rubystone

11,254 posts

266 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Are they really selling?

Carmo99

1,308 posts

193 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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This is crazy. Last weekend I looked at a 30k km manual, mint for 65kgbp and thought it was expensive (in Switzerland). At this rate I should buy it yesterday.
Ps it was 40kgbp 2 years ago (same car)

roygarth

2,674 posts

255 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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priley said:
Well Slade's Garage appear to be shifting them and with a several thousand pound increase on each subsequent one. I raised my insured value from £70k to £100 this year ('95 GTS, Red/Crema, 29k miles, history etc) and combined with my Dino Spider, for which I did the same, it was an uncomfortable hike if a seriously First World problem.
My hunch is that yes they are selling them as whenever a model is marked as sold, when the next same model appears for sale it is at a higher price. If they were priced too high and therefore weren't selling and were going back to their owners (I'm assuming most of their stock is SOR) would Slades put prices up on subsequent cars for sale - I doubt it.

A friend of mine, who has been dealing these sorts of classic cars for 30 years says that the higher end F40, Dino, 2.7 and other RS' market had gone up too far and is coming back a tad (look at how many Dinos are for sale and not selling)..but the more plain vanilla(!) 550, 328, 355 etc market still selling quite quickly. Watching Slades website seems to bear this out.

Steve7777

237 posts

156 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Carmo99 said:
This is crazy. Last weekend I looked at a 30k km manual, mint for 65kgbp and thought it was expensive (in Switzerland). At this rate I should buy it yesterday.
Ps it was 40kgbp 2 years ago (same car)
The best thing about the Swiss market is the price trend charts on Comparis. There's a 355 on there that's been for sale for nearly six years. It started at CHF 95k, got gradually reduced into the 60s, and has now gone back up to CHF 78k. Good job they're tracking the market so closely otherwise they might accidentally sell the thing.

diametric123

146 posts

119 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Some more market data - I sold my 355 GTB manual 30k miles for £90k this year, a friend has bought a Spider for £99k

On a separate note I would be more concerned about the OP's 550 - £80k is WAY under market value (depending on spec). My 2001 car 25k miles with WSR spec (but not a WSR car) is insured for £110k and I think is probably worth closer to £125k

red_slr

18,187 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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There are a lot more for sale that's for sure. 18 months ago there might only be 20-30 for sale on PH at any one time. 2x that at times now.

ferdi p

1,524 posts

179 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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red_slr said:
There are a lot more for sale that's for sure. 18 months ago there might only be 20-30 for sale on PH at any one time. 2x that at times now.
That's exactly what happens when owners want to cash in on a car that in some cases has doubled in value!!

phib

4,488 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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red_slr said:
There are a lot more for sale that's for sure. 18 months ago there might only be 20-30 for sale on PH at any one time. 2x that at times now.
Or the fact its the end of summer / autumn and people always seem to want to get out at this time of year. ( which is exactly the wrong time to get out !!)

Phib

HardtopManual

2,545 posts

173 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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red_slr said:
There are a lot more for sale that's for sure. 18 months ago there might only be 20-30 for sale on PH at any one time. 2x that at times now.
Lots of left hookers in the classifieds now though, far more than there were 18 months ago.

priley

505 posts

195 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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Yep, remove LHD and F1 and the number will drop.

W111AAM

Original Poster:

657 posts

239 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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I was surprised at how many LHD cars there are for sale? Why is this? People buying them as the £/Euro rate is good and hoping to make a few quid this end?

roygarth

2,674 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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priley said:
Yep, remove LHD and F1 and the number will drop.
yep, manual is where its at. Check out the price of manual 430's. Everyone want the click clack through the gate sound!