Ferrari 348 buying advice please

Ferrari 348 buying advice please

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Adenauer

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18,696 posts

243 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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If you were to buy a Ferrari 348, very low miles and one owner, which would be the most desirable as an investment. A tintop or a convertible?

And is there anything in particular that you need to look out for?

Thanks smile

brogenville

932 posts

208 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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If you're talking about a proper convertible, then go with that as they were made in very low nombers near the end of the run. Bit more powerful and lots of niggles ironed out.

If you're talking about a TS though (targa), then I would strongly advise against. The panels squeak, cream, and leak. And when you do have them out, they sit behind the seats and destroy your legroom.

My Berlinetta was a great car by the way. Nothing sounded as good. Now sadly exported to Australia.

cgt2

7,145 posts

195 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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I've had a couple of 348 Spiders, and they are very wobbly indeed by modern standards. Rare cars and huge fun with the roof down but the tb will always deliver a much better driving experience.

brogenville

932 posts

208 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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LWould agree with the comment above, but as an invesent the spider is a slightly stronger bet than the tin top IMO.

Edited by brogenville on Tuesday 8th September 23:50

jtremlett

1,438 posts

229 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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A 348 is not an investment. I adore mine - had it for more than 15 years. But they aren't cheap to run and you aren't going to make money out of owning one. So either buy one to use and enjoy it or don't buy one at all.

Jonathan

Adenauer

Original Poster:

18,696 posts

243 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Thanks for your replies, it's not for me but my Dad, who just plans to use it for a few days out during nice sunny days.

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

150 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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jtremlett said:
A 348 is not an investment. I adore mine - had it for more than 15 years. But they aren't cheap to run and you aren't going to make money out of owning one. So either buy one to use and enjoy it or don't buy one at all.

Jonathan
^^ THIS ^^

I've had 2 and personally love them! Cracking little car, mini Testarossa looks, drives great (don't listen to the bandwagon jumpers who say otherwise - one of the best for steering feel out there), sounds good - what's not to like.

However prices have not / never really moved so unless you know that the market for these is about to go crazy stay away for investment and buy to enjoy the miles.

  • To add, if you want to have fun I had both the TB and TS, enjoyed the TS much more as gave the best of both worlds.
Edited by Slickhillsy on Wednesday 9th September 14:29

kingstanding

43 posts

154 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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But who would have predicted the sharp rise in 360 prices over the last 4 years. Maybe the 348 is next...

andrew

10,090 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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don't

wezo

247 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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A 348 GTC is the investment grade car, if you can find one. Personally I'm not sure they are worth the premium, but its the one to go for, very rare and collectable. Otherwise I would go for a 328 GTS, but I'm biased.

James P

2,980 posts

244 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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kingstanding said:
But who would have predicted the sharp rise in 360 prices over the last 4 years. Maybe the 348 is next...
I've already seen them up for £60k, has the boat sailed already?

LordOfTheManor

1,267 posts

118 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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I Loooove the 348Tb in red with all the original black bits and gold wheels

4rephill

5,066 posts

185 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
.....However prices have not / never really moved so unless you know that the market for these is about to go crazy stay away for investment and buy to enjoy the miles......
Edited by Slickhillsy on Wednesday 9th September 14:29
I can only assume you've been asleep for the last 5 years plus!

5 years ago RHD 348 TB's & TS' were selling for £18K~£23K and had been for years on end.

Then a couple of years ago they started to move upwards to £22K~£25K.

Last May you needed @ £28K~£33K to get yourself a RHD 348 (I know this to be true because I bought My 1990 348 TS from a very well known Ferrari Specialist for £33K last May, when all the £28K, £30K, £32K cars were sold already when I rang up about them!).

12 months down the road, I've just been offered £50K for My car (and there would be @ £5K+ of dealers commission on top that the buyer would have to pay, so that makes it a £55K car).

So that's an overall increase in value of £22K in the 12 months I've owned the car. If that's not a real move in value then I'd love to know what is!

However, I would say that the 348 has probably topped out now at @ £50K~£60K for the top end cars, and a price drop could come any time soon, so from an investment point of view I'd say: "Bad luck! - You've missed the boat!"

davek_964

9,299 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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4rephill said:
I can only assume you've been asleep for the last 5 years plus!

5 years ago RHD 348 TB's & TS' were selling for £18K~£23K and had been for years on end.

Then a couple of years ago they started to move upwards to £22K~£25K.

Last May you needed @ £28K~£33K to get yourself a RHD 348 (I know this to be true because I bought My 1990 348 TS from a very well known Ferrari Specialist for £33K last May, when all the £28K, £30K, £32K cars were sold already when I rang up about them!).

12 months down the road, I've just been offered £50K for My car (and there would be @ £5K+ of dealers commission on top that the buyer would have to pay, so that makes it a £55K car).

So that's an overall increase in value of £22K in the 12 months I've owned the car. If that's not a real move in value then I'd love to know what is!

However, I would say that the 348 has probably topped out now at @ £50K~£60K for the top end cars, and a price drop could come any time soon, so from an investment point of view I'd say: "Bad luck! - You've missed the boat!"
+1. I bought a very good 348 for just under £30k about 4 years ago, when the price of average cars was around the £20-25k mark. I sold it 3 years ago for about the same. If I wanted to buy it back from it's current owner - despite the higher mileage it has now - I'm pretty sure the price would start with a "5".

It's not the case that 348s "might" increase like 360s have as somebody else has suggested. I'd say the 348 has increased more in the last couple of years than most, relatively speaking.

The time to buy was a couple of years ago, although I think few people would have expected the sharp rise. I liked mine a lot - but I have to say, I wouldn't want one at todays prices.

Bo_apex

3,026 posts

225 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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R36vw

451 posts

153 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Bo_apex said:
I wouldn't fancy climbing in and out of the window!

As an investment? You're going to need to pay at least 50-60k now for a decent rhd model. Will they go up further? Who knows? Running these will eat into that anyway £700-800 annual service and cam belts every 3 years at a cost about £1600-3k(depending on independent or dealer).
Buy because you want one, if you walk away years later breaking even its a bonus. Depreciation is not like buying a new car though.
As for living with one. They are great fun, it's not a modern car and doesn't pretend to be. That brings a lot of appeal. They drive really well with correct geometry set up.
Be mindful that most are now approaching 25yrs old. They will all need something doing/tinkering with. Such things that are cropping up are bushes/fuel pipes/coolant hoses. Age related perishables rather than failing.
Buy on condition, good history and get an inspection. A lot can easily be missed.
Gratuitous photo davek_964 wink




davek_964

9,299 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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R36vw said:
Gratuitous photo davek_964 wink



Nice to see it again. smile It is a lovely looking car.