What do people think to this?
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I'm considering swapping my 911 C4S for an F430 I don't really want to spend > £75k
Saw this on the Ferrari Approved website - what do people think to this car?
http://www.ferrariapproved.com/#selectedView=DETAI...
Saw this on the Ferrari Approved website - what do people think to this car?
http://www.ferrariapproved.com/#selectedView=DETAI...
I've gone from a 997 GT3 to an old school air cooled 911...and just got an F430.
The 430 to me feels more alive even than the GT3. They're that good.
Make sure you can fit into it. I'm 6'0 tall and with standard seats, my eyes were level with the windscreen frame. Felt like I was sitting 'on it' and not 'in it'. Some seat types sit lower (the Daytonas I think).
At 30k miles you'd be at the top end of what is deemed 'acceptable' for a Ferrari, but you know that already. IMO it would be worth another £5k to go for one with lower miles.
Good luck.
The 430 to me feels more alive even than the GT3. They're that good.
Make sure you can fit into it. I'm 6'0 tall and with standard seats, my eyes were level with the windscreen frame. Felt like I was sitting 'on it' and not 'in it'. Some seat types sit lower (the Daytonas I think).
At 30k miles you'd be at the top end of what is deemed 'acceptable' for a Ferrari, but you know that already. IMO it would be worth another £5k to go for one with lower miles.
Good luck.
Simon T said:
MrVert said:
At 30k miles you'd be at the top end of what is deemed 'acceptable' for a Ferrari
Good luck.
Hi, could you expand on that please, mines got 40k on it in 14 years. Unacceptable?Good luck.
At that age, the market (not me), deems that 'ok' in the uk. The car in the OP's link has what, nearly 4k miles a year for the first 8 years.
I've just bought one, so I am reflective of the current market.
Just my thoughts....
MrVert said:
At 30k miles you'd be at the top end of what is deemed 'acceptable' for a Ferrari, but you know that already….
30k on a five year old Ferrari may be considered high mileage. 30k on this may be considered a little over average for a 9 year old F430. 30,200 on my 2000 360 equates to a smudge over 2000pa - high mileage?It's all relative.
This mileage bulls
t has and does always annoy me with supercars and as much as I'd like to say it isn't relevant it absolutely is. While we all know these are mechanically capable of doing as many miles as any other car out there for some reason it believed that they need wrapping in cotton wool. I blame those people with trophy cars who buy them stick them in the garage unused just so they can tell people down the pub they own a Fezza!.
When you buy a 430 for instance with 30k miles plus on the clock, when it comes to selling it back to a dealer expect a deeply furrowed brow and sharp intake of breath when you tell him it now has 34k because you've dared too use it! Sad but true
t has and does always annoy me with supercars and as much as I'd like to say it isn't relevant it absolutely is. While we all know these are mechanically capable of doing as many miles as any other car out there for some reason it believed that they need wrapping in cotton wool. I blame those people with trophy cars who buy them stick them in the garage unused just so they can tell people down the pub they own a Fezza!.When you buy a 430 for instance with 30k miles plus on the clock, when it comes to selling it back to a dealer expect a deeply furrowed brow and sharp intake of breath when you tell him it now has 34k because you've dared too use it! Sad but true
I agree with what is written about the miles point. These modern Ferraris are designed to be driven, not stored away. I am guilty of appallingly low miles in my f430 spider, but that's not out of choice!
It was spot on what has been said above - expect a terrible offer for a car with over 20k miles, rightly or wrongly that is how it is.
TEABOY - I bought my 360 from a main dealer and my f430 privately. The main dealer car was sold to me needing £5k worth of work at the next service. I complained and that was reduced, but point is that it doesnt necessarily equate to peace of mind.
Buying privately saved me loads of money, I did a PPI which showed the car needed around £1500 of work, but that was fine as I went in with my eyes opened, and still got a great deal.
GOOD LUCK!
It was spot on what has been said above - expect a terrible offer for a car with over 20k miles, rightly or wrongly that is how it is.
TEABOY - I bought my 360 from a main dealer and my f430 privately. The main dealer car was sold to me needing £5k worth of work at the next service. I complained and that was reduced, but point is that it doesnt necessarily equate to peace of mind.
Buying privately saved me loads of money, I did a PPI which showed the car needed around £1500 of work, but that was fine as I went in with my eyes opened, and still got a great deal.
GOOD LUCK!
As has been said already rightly or wrongly miles is everything on these cars.
I recently went through the buying process but ended up with a Gallardo.
That car is lovely, but is an 06 with no ceramics and a few miles.
Why not buy a 2 year newer car with half the miles for a couple of k more ?
I have no connection (I know the guys very well) but can tell you that car is as near perfect a 430 as you will ever find if the colour and trim suits you.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
I recently went through the buying process but ended up with a Gallardo.
That car is lovely, but is an 06 with no ceramics and a few miles.
Why not buy a 2 year newer car with half the miles for a couple of k more ?
I have no connection (I know the guys very well) but can tell you that car is as near perfect a 430 as you will ever find if the colour and trim suits you.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
MrVert said:
At 30k miles you'd be at the top end of what is deemed 'acceptable' for a Ferrari, but you know that already. IMO it would be worth another £5k to go for one with lower miles.
Complete balls!My F355 Spider has 50k miles on it and drives extremely well and has had all the niggles sorted. Much rather that than a low mileage car with all the 'common faults' not to have been tackles.
My 308 GTB has just passed 93,000 miles! It drives every bit as well or if not better than a 30k mile car... because its been used and well maintained.
My 3.2 Mondial has 69k miles on, but because its not been driven all winter, the exhaust manifold has just blown.
Ferraris don't like to be left stood, its does them no good at all. Plus if you aren't going to drive a Ferrari, what's the point in having one? They're the finest drivers cars on the planet.
andrew said:
nah. it costs a faction of that to get the mileage corrected
Too true.But sadly, mileage does have an effect on the value of a car. If you don't believe me, visit your local Ferrari dealer to see how they value your higher than average miles car.....
It has never stopped me buying a car though, provided the price reflects the mileage.
So, at the risk of a thread hijack (sorry about this), what do we think is an 'acceptable' mileage for a Ferrari then? Numbers on the clock are meaningless, I'm talking average miles per year.
Just a thought and an example scenario: A man finds a Dino in a barn, rotted out and in a state that would point it towards a scrapyard if it weren't a Ferrari. Nobody's surprised when he pays the best part of six figures. I was lead to believe that mileage, history and condition were the three real drivers of Ferrari pricing. Said barn find will most likely leave all boxes un-ticked, go figure...
Just a thought and an example scenario: A man finds a Dino in a barn, rotted out and in a state that would point it towards a scrapyard if it weren't a Ferrari. Nobody's surprised when he pays the best part of six figures. I was lead to believe that mileage, history and condition were the three real drivers of Ferrari pricing. Said barn find will most likely leave all boxes un-ticked, go figure...
If your worried about how much your going to loose on your car then obviously mileage is going to be an issue, but its a car not an investment. If you bought your car to drive, forget the numbers on the dash and just enjoy it when you want how you want, Deal with the figures when you want to sell it.
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