Is the 458 Speciale to noisy for UK tracks?

Is the 458 Speciale to noisy for UK tracks?

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ruebdo

Original Poster:

291 posts

173 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Hi,
I think I know the answer but my brief search has not found anything.
Is the Speciale to loud for UK tracks?
I was just about to book Silverstone or Bedford :-(. Last time around I just made it with the GT3
Cheers

red_duke

800 posts

188 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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I don't have an answer for you but it does raise an interesting dilemma. I have track time booked at Silverstone on 22nd March for which there is a 102 dB noise limit. I'm only expecting to get a couple of laps in my F430 before I get black flagged for exceeding this.

If you can't exploit these cars fully on the road and circuit noise limits are overly restrictive what's the point in owning them?

Anjum

1,605 posts

291 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Good question! I have booked on a noisy day in Spa - 107db - so should be fine. When I get mine delivered - the first thing I'm doing is measure the noise (you can download from the app store).

Overall though - we are in this counter intuitive position whereby track day cars are getting quieter (thanks NIMBYs - why move next to a race track then?) - and yet road cars (especially with aftermarket exhausts) are getting louder.....go figure.....!!!???

A

Ravi355

664 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Go and get an ARDS race license and go on test days. High DB limits as race cars are much louder, better standard of drivers on track with you and no need to sit the same briefing every time you go out on track.

red_duke

800 posts

188 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Ravi355 said:
Go and get an ARDS race license and go on test days. High DB limits as race cars are much louder, better standard of drivers on track with you and no need to sit the same briefing every time you go out on track.
Now there's an idea. I've been looking for an excuse to get a racing license but could never justify it.

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Bedford probably won't even let you through the front gate - you might get away with a Silverstone loud (105/102) day until you take it out of standard mode - best bet is a Donington unlimited (such as RMA soon)

Nmj

274 posts

153 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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ruebdo said:
Hi,
I think I know the answer but my brief search has not found anything.
Is the Speciale to loud for UK tracks?
I was just about to book Silverstone or Bedford :-(. Last time around I just made it with the GT3
Cheers
Rupert..... come on now, you know the answer !!!!

Nmj

274 posts

153 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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ruebdo said:
Hi,
I think I know the answer but my brief search has not found anything.
Is the Speciale to loud for UK tracks?
I was just about to book Silverstone or Bedford :-(. Last time around I just made it with the GT3
Cheers
Rupert..... come on now, you know the answer !!!!

ruebdo

Original Poster:

291 posts

173 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Ha, Nigel
Pretty sure I do but I cannot find out how loud the car actually is.
We are off to Spa in May but they never sound check so no issues there ( famous last words ) !!!
In fairness good point re the ARDS. I have my license so maybe that is the best route. Shame is none of my friends do!!
Nigel, dust off that F40 or F50 and let's go play :-)

F40GT346

211 posts

174 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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A friend has a 458 Speciale and it is very loud on track. We did a track day at Silverstone and it tripped the 105 DB drive by limit. He had some DB killers fitted and that sorted it out for Silverstone.


DB killers are complicate to fit due to the positioning of the exhausts. It requires some extension pipes to which the DB killers could be attached so needs sorting before you go to the track.

Bedford would be a no-go. Spa should be fine.

ruebdo

Original Poster:

291 posts

173 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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Well Silverstone is a 102 db drive by so car is too loud for that!

ARDS testing days the same. The noise limit is not raised that I am aware of.

I have been advised to leave the exhaust alone too. And also to make sure the traction control is off otherwise the brakes will be cooked (same as GT3 RS).

Spa it is then!!

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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johnnyreggae said:
best bet is a Donington unlimited (such as RMA soon)
March 17 & Nov 2

Ravi355

664 posts

237 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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ruebdo said:
Well Silverstone is a 102 db drive by so car is too loud for that!

ARDS testing days the same. The noise limit is not raised that I am aware of.

I have been advised to leave the exhaust alone too. And also to make sure the traction control is off otherwise the brakes will be cooked (same as GT3 RS).

Spa it is then!!
You need to make sure you are on a day with loud single seater machinery. It's the only way I could get the scud on track as it failed everywhere else.

hunter 66

3,995 posts

227 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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There were Speciale running today at Silverstone no issues ........ had the Scud GT3 out no issue as well

ruebdo

Original Poster:

291 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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hunter 66 said:
There were Speciale running today at Silverstone no issues ........ had the Scud GT3 out no issue as well
That's good to know. Maybe worth a chance then :-/

hunter 66

3,995 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Yes it is 102 drive by which is about 108-110 db car dependant static , having done 3 24hours with all the noise issues we ahve got to understand testing .
We were getting 106 static in the pits but only 96 drive by so no issues all night but that was a Porshce 911 which are noisier at static testing.
But there were 2 Speciales there a black and red .
Only about 4 cars circulating for the last hour and a half so quiet and no rain ...

XBOW

1,671 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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A friend's scud with standard exhaust got black flagged at Silverstone due to noise frown

Foxmod

57 posts

177 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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My Scud (totally standard) measure a static level of 125 dB smile

AndyGarton

403 posts

214 months

Friday 13th March 2015
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Ravi355 said:
Go and get an ARDS race license and go on test days. High DB limits as race cars are much louder, better standard of drivers on track with you and no need to sit the same briefing every time you go out on track.
Is this definitely an option? No need for the car to be "race legal" (if that even means anything?) for example? Serious question as it sounds like a great way around the ridiculous track day noise problem.

djon

409 posts

241 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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They are too loud at Silverstone if left standard. A friend had to have his modified, as a result his standard 458 is now louder, but he can run the Speciale on track.