Random 458 question: MPG

Random 458 question: MPG

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Skittles001

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669 posts

269 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Morning. OK I know and agree the mpg on a 458 is not important etc. but just wondered, with all the electronics and displays etc why is there no way to see mpg? Is this just Ferrari saying "you don't need this information"? Is it the same across the model range?

kbooker

728 posts

145 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Never have I ever wondered what mpg is my Ferrari doing, guess Ferrari think the same way?

Durzel

12,430 posts

174 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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The above said you can get Ferraris with HELE (stop start) now, so it's not like they aren't thinking about it.

br d

8,577 posts

232 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Skittles001 said:
Morning. OK I know and agree the mpg on a 458 is not important etc. but just wondered, with all the electronics and displays etc why is there no way to see mpg? Is this just Ferrari saying "you don't need this information"? Is it the same across the model range?
I am willing to bet my house on the fact that when you bought your 458 saving on petrol wasn't your main concern!

purpleperil

1,214 posts

290 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Mine tells me how far I've got left in the tank - normally about ten minutes wink HTH

Skittles001

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669 posts

269 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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br d said:
I am willing to bet my house on the fact that when you bought your 458 saving on petrol wasn't your main concern!
Lol. Your house is safe! The mpg on what is my "toy" is purely incidental; was simply curious to know what it was and whether it is actually shown somewhere or if it is was omitted by ferrari because presumably it is deemed "vulgar" to know! :-) even my GT3 RS, which is essentially a road going racing car, showed it.

sone

4,593 posts

244 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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When I had my 458 it wasn't a concern for me but I did consider range so then mpg was relevant in around about way.
Coincidentally while doing runs across France the 458 was very similar to my pals v8v Aston and also similar to a friends RS Focus. So I reckon high teens per gallon.

GrahamPM

1,065 posts

237 months

Monday 19th January 2015
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Measured in SPG - Priceless :-)


(smiles per gallon)

G

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

149 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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sone said:
So I reckon high teens per gallon.
Clearly not driving fast enough! biggrin

sone

4,593 posts

244 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
sone said:
So I reckon high teens per gallon.
Clearly not driving fast enough! biggrin
Yep in France during Le Mans you cant go too fast if you value your liberty (-:

PHOENIXUK

2,198 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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sone said:
Yep in France during Le Mans you cant go too fast if you value your liberty (-:
Not to mention your property...

red_duke

800 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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458 said:
Why don't we uses miles per litre?
Litres per mile would be more appropriate for my steed weeping

purpleperil

1,214 posts

290 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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red_duke said:
Litres per mile would be more appropriate for my steed weeping
Beat me to it!

DevonPaul

1,260 posts

143 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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What is strange is perhaps how (some) people who buy these things still consider fuel economy, not as a buying factor, but as an expense.

You've got a car that can shift in price by 5 figures in 12 months (up or down depending upon what you buy or who you believe), will cost you a 4 figure sum to service every year and a similar sum to insure, £500 to tax, and then tyres on top.

If the instruments are to be believed, these things rarely do more than 3k a year, which is 300 gallons of fuel at most, so about £1500.

Fuel is probably the smallest component of the running cost for most Ferrari owners, but it is probably indicative of the mindset of the people who've made enough to buy these things that "keeping an eye on the costs" is second nature, and probably part of how they got where they are in the first place.

Although in a different league and less mileage sensitive, I'm actually encouraged to use the maser, the wife even takes it to work. That way the service and repair costs are diluted and the car 'seems' even better value.

dopamine

182 posts

274 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Hello,

I had similar curiosity about my F430 which shows the tank as full for what seemes like the first half of the tank and then nose dives off a cliff.

To that end I bought a wifi obd2 sender off ebay for £15 and an app for my iphone/ipad (Dash Command IIRC)and it sends through loads of info along with any fault codes the car may have in memory. Its pretty cool actually, though really none of the info is of any great benefit beyond curio value.

As for the MPG - I saw as low as 8mpg while really pushing it biggrin

Cheers

Travis


Hollowpockets

5,908 posts

222 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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DevonPaul said:
a 4 figure sum to service every year
I did find it a nice surprise that the Speciale came with 7 year servicing included. more money for fuel! party

TonyF

2,300 posts

282 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Same with my 458 spider, 4 years warranty and 7 year servicing included.
Nice little touch Ferrari...

voicey

2,457 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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dopamine said:
To that end I bought a wifi obd2 sender off ebay for £15 and an app for my iphone/ipad (Dash Command IIRC)and it sends through loads of info along with any fault codes the car may have in memory. Its pretty cool actually, though really none of the info is of any great benefit beyond curio value.
OT but does your app allow connection to both engine ECUs? Not many do and I try to keep a mental note of those that can.

Skittles001

Original Poster:

669 posts

269 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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DevonPaul said:
What is strange is perhaps how (some) people who buy these things still consider fuel economy, not as a buying factor, but as an expense.
Paul. I think there is a big difference between curiously and caring! I can't imagine anyone who owns these or similar cars cares how much fuel the car consumes!!! I find it amusing with all the other readout a from the OBC the fuel consumption is omitted!

dopamine

182 posts

274 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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voicey said:
OT but does your app allow connection to both engine ECUs? Not many do and I try to keep a mental note of those that can.
Hey Aldous,

Honestly I don't really know... It has spent more time in my electrically misbehaving L322 RR than the 430. I'm in the UK atm, but when I get home at the weekend I'll take a look and drop you a message... My guess is probably not though...

Cheers

Travis