Looking to buy a 430 in jan.
Discussion
I'm looking to buy a F430 in jan for my 38th birthday present to myself, it's the result of many years of 14+ hour days almost every day, and is something I simply cannot put into words about how excited I am. I've really loved all of the posts on her about ownership and it's an amazing time that's also very scary that I'm going to part with this sort of money.
I've kind of decided an F430 F1 coupe in rosso with black leather is what I'd like and have found 2 on the classifieds here that are within budget. So what would you go for and does anyone know the cars? Ones at Hamilton Grays for £67950 and there's another with 4000 less miles and carbon brakes with Nick Cartright specialist cars at £72995.
I'd welcome peoples thoughts on them?
Thanks, Andy H
I've kind of decided an F430 F1 coupe in rosso with black leather is what I'd like and have found 2 on the classifieds here that are within budget. So what would you go for and does anyone know the cars? Ones at Hamilton Grays for £67950 and there's another with 4000 less miles and carbon brakes with Nick Cartright specialist cars at £72995.
I'd welcome peoples thoughts on them?
Thanks, Andy H
Good luck with your search, I've had mine nearly two years, it's a brilliant car and I use it regularly. Maintainance has been a fair amount but insurance is cheap and it's been very reliable. Make sure you drive yours, you''ll have to maintain it anyway so you might as well enjoy it.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with a warranty again, the one problem I had they didn't pay and I've since found out, every car retailer must by law warranty a used car for three months anyway.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with a warranty again, the one problem I had they didn't pay and I've since found out, every car retailer must by law warranty a used car for three months anyway.
Thanks for the info SlartiF430 but is more miles than I was after, after seeing it though I need to find some seats like it has though, let me know if you ever wanted to swap some standard ones + cash?
I've heard lots of good things on Nick Cartwright, will give him a bell, only thing is the one he has shows as already being sold by him previously so will find out why it's back up for sale. I think the extra £5k is worth it for the brakes and the lower mileage, just shame its not got the sports seats too.
I've heard lots of good things on Nick Cartwright, will give him a bell, only thing is the one he has shows as already being sold by him previously so will find out why it's back up for sale. I think the extra £5k is worth it for the brakes and the lower mileage, just shame its not got the sports seats too.
HA12RSS said:
Thanks for the info SlartiF430 but is more miles than I was after, after seeing it though I need to find some seats like it has though, let me know if you ever wanted to swap some standard ones + cash?
I've heard lots of good things on Nick Cartwright, will give him a bell, only thing is the one he has shows as already being sold by him previously so will find out why it's back up for sale. I think the extra £5k is worth it for the brakes and the lower mileage, just shame its not got the sports seats too.
42k miles, too high? I've always found this notion odd. To me it means you get into a car that's probably in better condition for less money...all of the fun, less of the depreciation. That's just my view and I dint expect everyone to agree! Seats are staying put :-) they're awesome. Highly recommend them - the non-electric seat adjusters also mean you get your position far quicker. You sit *in* them versus *on* the standard seats. I've heard lots of good things on Nick Cartwright, will give him a bell, only thing is the one he has shows as already being sold by him previously so will find out why it's back up for sale. I think the extra £5k is worth it for the brakes and the lower mileage, just shame its not got the sports seats too.
SlartiF430
Unfortunately the mileage and service history is always a bone of contention and subject of debate. I have recently bought a 2006 F430 with 14,800 miles, full history and the spec I was after.
The mileage was not a huge consideration for me and given the condition, history and spec I would have still bought the car with double the miles.
However, I have also owned a 355 Berlinetta for 6 years, its 1998 and 39,000 miles, fully documented history with invoices and service stamps for every single year, no gaps.
The last 3 years I have only covered a total of 3000 miles but felt a duty to carry out annual services and engine out cam belt service during that time.
If I ever decide to sell the 355, the above will be expected by any potential buyer and a gap in history seems to cast all sorts of shadows and doubts for some reason. As does low mileage v anything deemed high !!
Low mileage say 9000 miles and folk are hinting at cars being clocked or disconnected.
"High mileage", 42,000 miles in your case and there is a sharp intake of breath.
We seem to be a very fickle bunch but all I would say to the potential buyer is dont let the mileage scare you away from any purchase. If the condition and history are good and the potential car you like is the right spec then the mileage will most likely be taken into account in the asking price.
I absolutley cherish my Ferraris but get a little frustrated at how fickle we can be about this great marque.
HA12RSS
Good luck with your search, it will be an event every time your drive it out of the garage.
Charlie
Unfortunately the mileage and service history is always a bone of contention and subject of debate. I have recently bought a 2006 F430 with 14,800 miles, full history and the spec I was after.
The mileage was not a huge consideration for me and given the condition, history and spec I would have still bought the car with double the miles.
However, I have also owned a 355 Berlinetta for 6 years, its 1998 and 39,000 miles, fully documented history with invoices and service stamps for every single year, no gaps.
The last 3 years I have only covered a total of 3000 miles but felt a duty to carry out annual services and engine out cam belt service during that time.
If I ever decide to sell the 355, the above will be expected by any potential buyer and a gap in history seems to cast all sorts of shadows and doubts for some reason. As does low mileage v anything deemed high !!
Low mileage say 9000 miles and folk are hinting at cars being clocked or disconnected.
"High mileage", 42,000 miles in your case and there is a sharp intake of breath.
We seem to be a very fickle bunch but all I would say to the potential buyer is dont let the mileage scare you away from any purchase. If the condition and history are good and the potential car you like is the right spec then the mileage will most likely be taken into account in the asking price.
I absolutley cherish my Ferraris but get a little frustrated at how fickle we can be about this great marque.
HA12RSS
Good luck with your search, it will be an event every time your drive it out of the garage.
Charlie
To me 40k+ miles isn't s big thing (especially as it has a Ferrari warranty still and the seats I want!) it's just the resale that I fear with there being so many others available with so few miles. I'd be interested in any owners who have high mileage cars and what they've required? I plan to use the car a lot, my GTR I had before was used daily at times in the summer so maybe I shouldn't be afraid of the mileage? What price are you after Slarti?
CGF993 said:
SlartiF430
Unfortunately the mileage and service history is always a bone of contention and subject of debate. I have recently bought a 2006 F430 with 14,800 miles, full history and the spec I was after.
The mileage was not a huge consideration for me and given the condition, history and spec I would have still bought the car with double the miles.
However, I have also owned a 355 Berlinetta for 6 years, its 1998 and 39,000 miles, fully documented history with invoices and service stamps for every single year, no gaps.
The last 3 years I have only covered a total of 3000 miles but felt a duty to carry out annual services and engine out cam belt service during that time.
If I ever decide to sell the 355, the above will be expected by any potential buyer and a gap in history seems to cast all sorts of shadows and doubts for some reason. As does low mileage v anything deemed high !!
Low mileage say 9000 miles and folk are hinting at cars being clocked or disconnected.
"High mileage", 42,000 miles in your case and there is a sharp intake of breath.
We seem to be a very fickle bunch but all I would say to the potential buyer is dont let the mileage scare you away from any purchase. If the condition and history are good and the potential car you like is the right spec then the mileage will most likely be taken into account in the asking price.
I absolutley cherish my Ferraris but get a little frustrated at how fickle we can be about this great marque.
HA12RSS
Good luck with your search, it will be an event every time your drive it out of the garage.
Charlie
Spot on. My 39,000 mile 1997 F355GTS has every main dealer Ferrari stamp in the book annually and more. From memory there was less than 5,000 miles between the last 3 year cambelt service as well. Ok the maintenance costs are high relative to the mileage but the last few years appreciation has more than paid for that.Unfortunately the mileage and service history is always a bone of contention and subject of debate. I have recently bought a 2006 F430 with 14,800 miles, full history and the spec I was after.
The mileage was not a huge consideration for me and given the condition, history and spec I would have still bought the car with double the miles.
However, I have also owned a 355 Berlinetta for 6 years, its 1998 and 39,000 miles, fully documented history with invoices and service stamps for every single year, no gaps.
The last 3 years I have only covered a total of 3000 miles but felt a duty to carry out annual services and engine out cam belt service during that time.
If I ever decide to sell the 355, the above will be expected by any potential buyer and a gap in history seems to cast all sorts of shadows and doubts for some reason. As does low mileage v anything deemed high !!
Low mileage say 9000 miles and folk are hinting at cars being clocked or disconnected.
"High mileage", 42,000 miles in your case and there is a sharp intake of breath.
We seem to be a very fickle bunch but all I would say to the potential buyer is dont let the mileage scare you away from any purchase. If the condition and history are good and the potential car you like is the right spec then the mileage will most likely be taken into account in the asking price.
I absolutley cherish my Ferraris but get a little frustrated at how fickle we can be about this great marque.
HA12RSS
Good luck with your search, it will be an event every time your drive it out of the garage.
Charlie
Condition and maintenance are my main priorities when buying any car although if I think I will take the car through a 10,000 mile banding ie 8,000 to 12,000 or 16,000 to 20,000 in my ownership I would want to factor that into the price
If you are going to use it a lot and only keep it for a short while it depends if you are going to take it over 50,000 which will narrow the disposal market further
I would still rather have a lowish mileage ( 3,000 miles pa ) high enthusiast owner car than a high mileage low enthusiast owner car as items still wear and tear. Any little niggles I've had with previous cars I've sorted out "money no object" so the next owner ends up with a spot on car which isn't even carrying a premium especially if traded.
If you buy a garage queen you pay a premium which disappears the moment you use it and there can be problems with a car that sits unused for long periods of time.
Lightly used well maintained cars with lots of invoices strangely enough seem to be in the best condition as well
Ferrari dealer has people queuing up to buy my p/x's usually
If you buy a garage queen you pay a premium which disappears the moment you use it and there can be problems with a car that sits unused for long periods of time.
Lightly used well maintained cars with lots of invoices strangely enough seem to be in the best condition as well
Ferrari dealer has people queuing up to buy my p/x's usually
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