Challenge Stradale - Tyre choice
Discussion
I know this topic has been touched on before but wanted to get the latest view from CS owners.
The current set of Pirelli Corsa's on my CS will need replacing soon and I am favouring switching to Michlen PSS. Reason is that my use in future will be road trips and the occassional track days. Corsa's are OE and sticky on track but go off/wear quickly. MSS seem more multi purpose and a far superior/durable road tyre. This is the theory and what I have read, but what is the actual experience of those that have changed. Also, if you are running PSS, do you run them at the same pressure as recommended for Corsa's?
Thanks, CMD
The current set of Pirelli Corsa's on my CS will need replacing soon and I am favouring switching to Michlen PSS. Reason is that my use in future will be road trips and the occassional track days. Corsa's are OE and sticky on track but go off/wear quickly. MSS seem more multi purpose and a far superior/durable road tyre. This is the theory and what I have read, but what is the actual experience of those that have changed. Also, if you are running PSS, do you run them at the same pressure as recommended for Corsa's?
Thanks, CMD
Hi, there is some very good information on the www.ferrarichat.com forum. Most will go for the safe option as all dealers will not risk advising on anything else and that will be standard factory spec. I am going for the MPSS which has been fitted as standard to the new specials like the 599GTO etc which tells you something and looking at trying 235 on the front not the 225 as there is talk about helping with the understeer. There will be plenty of other comments and expect most will be safe and conservative but will be interesting to see. This is just what I am look at trying after research to date. I would be especially interested in Toe and camber set up as this is a little less talked about. I am considering the following.
2mm per side rear toe (as per 430) 0.25 per side front Toe, 2.5 rear camber, 1.8 front camber. Comments made- gives extra grip, better turn in and ties the rear down as per the 430- which is important when you sharpen up the front. Avoids the built in understeer from the factory without turning the car into oversteer monster. This is a quote from an earlier pistonheads posting which I am guessing is with the standard tyre fitting and I wonder how this would affect going for the 235 fronts.
Any info and thoughts would be most interesting.
2mm per side rear toe (as per 430) 0.25 per side front Toe, 2.5 rear camber, 1.8 front camber. Comments made- gives extra grip, better turn in and ties the rear down as per the 430- which is important when you sharpen up the front. Avoids the built in understeer from the factory without turning the car into oversteer monster. This is a quote from an earlier pistonheads posting which I am guessing is with the standard tyre fitting and I wonder how this would affect going for the 235 fronts.
Any info and thoughts would be most interesting.
Choices include -
Bridgestone POTENZA RE‐11
Super Sport Cup II
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...
MPSS
Corsa
Bridgestone POTENZA RE‐11
Super Sport Cup II
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...
MPSS
Corsa
Dave
Get the MPSS. These are the best all round tyre currently available for the CS. I put them on mine after taking advice on FerrariChat and ClubScuderia and they are fantastic and to be honest, while they don't have the ultimate stickiness of the Corsa's on track they are pretty damn good with enough adjustability for drifting etc if thats your thing. When the rear of the car breaks away (either deliberately or unprovoked because you misjudged something) it's really really easy to gather it, there's no sudden breakaway or lurching as some tyres do when they abruptly regain traction.
Couple that with it being a really good road tyre too and I can't see why you'd choose anything else, unless you are someone who does 10 trackdays a year and really chases lap times.
Get the MPSS. These are the best all round tyre currently available for the CS. I put them on mine after taking advice on FerrariChat and ClubScuderia and they are fantastic and to be honest, while they don't have the ultimate stickiness of the Corsa's on track they are pretty damn good with enough adjustability for drifting etc if thats your thing. When the rear of the car breaks away (either deliberately or unprovoked because you misjudged something) it's really really easy to gather it, there's no sudden breakaway or lurching as some tyres do when they abruptly regain traction.
Couple that with it being a really good road tyre too and I can't see why you'd choose anything else, unless you are someone who does 10 trackdays a year and really chases lap times.
I don't think so, I've certainly run these with no problem including a couple of track days. Also, the extra bit of width has served quite well as a rim protector.
Not all tyres of supposedly the same form factor are equal by the way in terms of how they sit on the rim.
When I got my 997.1 GT3RS the former owner had corsa on it which were rear 335's or 345's (I can't remember exactly....stock was 325's). The car was brilliantly set up with different ARB's and bits from cup cars etc and handled beautifully.
When I went to change, it was when Pirelli had just introduced the Trofeo and there were no Corsa's available. Thinking they would be the same, I ordered the exact same size as the Corsa's but the way the Trofeo's sat on the rim, it was massively overtyred, and in compressions it would rub on the wheel arch, where I never had any issue with Corsa's of the same form factor.
So you really need to try them out.
Not all tyres of supposedly the same form factor are equal by the way in terms of how they sit on the rim.
When I got my 997.1 GT3RS the former owner had corsa on it which were rear 335's or 345's (I can't remember exactly....stock was 325's). The car was brilliantly set up with different ARB's and bits from cup cars etc and handled beautifully.
When I went to change, it was when Pirelli had just introduced the Trofeo and there were no Corsa's available. Thinking they would be the same, I ordered the exact same size as the Corsa's but the way the Trofeo's sat on the rim, it was massively overtyred, and in compressions it would rub on the wheel arch, where I never had any issue with Corsa's of the same form factor.
So you really need to try them out.
Bunk said:
I don't think so, I've certainly run these with no problem including a couple of track days. Also, the extra bit of width has served quite well as a rim protector.
Not all tyres of supposedly the same form factor are equal by the way in terms of how they sit on the rim.
When I got my 997.1 GT3RS the former owner had corsa on it which were rear 335's or 345's (I can't remember exactly....stock was 325's). The car was brilliantly set up with different ARB's and bits from cup cars etc and handled beautifully.
When I went to change, it was when Pirelli had just introduced the Trofeo and there were no Corsa's available. Thinking they would be the same, I ordered the exact same size as the Corsa's but the way the Trofeo's sat on the rim, it was massively overtyred, and in compressions it would rub on the wheel arch, where I never had any issue with Corsa's of the same form factor.
So you really need to try them out.
Not all tyres of supposedly the same form factor are equal by the way in terms of how they sit on the rim.
When I got my 997.1 GT3RS the former owner had corsa on it which were rear 335's or 345's (I can't remember exactly....stock was 325's). The car was brilliantly set up with different ARB's and bits from cup cars etc and handled beautifully.
When I went to change, it was when Pirelli had just introduced the Trofeo and there were no Corsa's available. Thinking they would be the same, I ordered the exact same size as the Corsa's but the way the Trofeo's sat on the rim, it was massively overtyred, and in compressions it would rub on the wheel arch, where I never had any issue with Corsa's of the same form factor.
So you really need to try them out.
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