458 Speciale advice?
Discussion
I'm seriously looking at ordering one of these for a spring 2015 delivery, when I return to the UK after working abroad for a number of years.
Can anyone in the know recommend a good dealer? Could be anywhere in England. (PM if appropriate).
Also, what are considered to be the must have options? The car seems to be very well specced to start with. I would aim to keep the car for the very long term, so would want it to be right, but I wouldn't go nuts for the sake of it. Would be nice to hear from some owners before I listen to the dealers!
Any help appreciated.
Can anyone in the know recommend a good dealer? Could be anywhere in England. (PM if appropriate).
Also, what are considered to be the must have options? The car seems to be very well specced to start with. I would aim to keep the car for the very long term, so would want it to be right, but I wouldn't go nuts for the sake of it. Would be nice to hear from some owners before I listen to the dealers!
Any help appreciated.
Phil,I've had mine for 3 months now.Don't give it a second thought just order.The car is brilliant !
Mine is a long term keeper and I added very little because a)it is well specced as standard and b)the factory worked hard to reduce weight and most options add it back on again.
Stripe is about £7k and is a matter of taste.I went without.
Harnesses suit car and are easy to use.I've not had them before but am now a fan and am glad I added.
I also specced a fire extinguisher for Track Days.This could be done much cheaper as a non factory option but I went with factory option.
I enquired about roll bar at factory but was told that it was purely cosmetic and added weight so did not spec.
If you want sat nav and stereo up to you.I put neither in.Telemetry kit was more tempting but I am not a regular and serious track day driver so did not add.
Main cosmetic on interior to consider is headliner.Standard is same fabric and colour as seat inserts which in my case would have been red.Along with the rest of the group at the factory I was with I thought this reflected a bit too much and was distracting so specced black alcantara which I'm really pleased with.
I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Lots of carbon fibre options that can add quite a lot of cost.I added a carbon fibre engine bay and rear diffuser.
Paint protection can be specced but can be done much cheaper in UK and I'm told factory option has prancing horse logos on it which sounds hideous IMHO.
All in car came in at about £220k.
This is not an exhaustive list of everything I added but covers most important items.
I thought about each option carefully so feel free to post any other questions.
I used Carrs in Exeter who were excellent.Availability seems difficult at present though especially if you don't add much.Read other Speciale threads.I had no such problems but had been wanting the car for years so was lucky to be at top of list.
Mine is a long term keeper and I added very little because a)it is well specced as standard and b)the factory worked hard to reduce weight and most options add it back on again.
Stripe is about £7k and is a matter of taste.I went without.
Harnesses suit car and are easy to use.I've not had them before but am now a fan and am glad I added.
I also specced a fire extinguisher for Track Days.This could be done much cheaper as a non factory option but I went with factory option.
I enquired about roll bar at factory but was told that it was purely cosmetic and added weight so did not spec.
If you want sat nav and stereo up to you.I put neither in.Telemetry kit was more tempting but I am not a regular and serious track day driver so did not add.
Main cosmetic on interior to consider is headliner.Standard is same fabric and colour as seat inserts which in my case would have been red.Along with the rest of the group at the factory I was with I thought this reflected a bit too much and was distracting so specced black alcantara which I'm really pleased with.
I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Lots of carbon fibre options that can add quite a lot of cost.I added a carbon fibre engine bay and rear diffuser.
Paint protection can be specced but can be done much cheaper in UK and I'm told factory option has prancing horse logos on it which sounds hideous IMHO.
All in car came in at about £220k.
This is not an exhaustive list of everything I added but covers most important items.
I thought about each option carefully so feel free to post any other questions.
I used Carrs in Exeter who were excellent.Availability seems difficult at present though especially if you don't add much.Read other Speciale threads.I had no such problems but had been wanting the car for years so was lucky to be at top of list.
ajr550 said:
Phil,I've had mine for 3 months now.Don't give it a second thought just order.The car is brilliant !
Mine is a long term keeper and I added very little because a)it is well specced as standard and b)the factory worked hard to reduce weight and most options add it back on again.
Stripe is about £7k and is a matter of taste.I went without.
Harnesses suit car and are easy to use.I've not had them before but am now a fan and am glad I added.
I also specced a fire extinguisher for Track Days.This could be done much cheaper as a non factory option but I went with factory option.
I enquired about roll bar at factory but was told that it was purely cosmetic and added weight so did not spec.
If you want sat nav and stereo up to you.I put neither in.Telemetry kit was more tempting but I am not a regular and serious track day driver so did not add.
Main cosmetic on interior to consider is headliner.Standard is same fabric and colour as seat inserts which in my case would have been red.Along with the rest of the group at the factory I was with I thought this reflected a bit too much and was distracting so specced black alcantara which I'm really pleased with.
I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Lots of carbon fibre options that can add quite a lot of cost.I added a carbon fibre engine bay and rear diffuser.
Paint protection can be specced but can be done much cheaper in UK and I'm told factory option has prancing horse logos on it which sounds hideous IMHO.
All in car came in at about £220k.
This is not an exhaustive list of everything I added but covers most important items.
I thought about each option carefully so feel free to post any other questions.
I used Carrs in Exeter who were excellent.Availability seems difficult at present though especially if you don't add much.Read other Speciale threads.I had no such problems but had been wanting the car for years so was lucky to be at top of list.
Thanks for your excellent response! Your car sounds very similar to what I have worked out so far. I currently drive a Vantage V8S and am constantly worried about taking out the C/F splitter on a speed bump. No issues yet, so will need to compare the heights and angles of that with the Speciale before deciding on the lifter. I agree with you re adding back all the weight with options. Seems the biggest issue will be getting an order slot, particularly as I have no Ferrari history, nor a desire to spec it up to 250k. I am patient though, so hopefully I'll be able to work something out. Thanks again for taking the time.Mine is a long term keeper and I added very little because a)it is well specced as standard and b)the factory worked hard to reduce weight and most options add it back on again.
Stripe is about £7k and is a matter of taste.I went without.
Harnesses suit car and are easy to use.I've not had them before but am now a fan and am glad I added.
I also specced a fire extinguisher for Track Days.This could be done much cheaper as a non factory option but I went with factory option.
I enquired about roll bar at factory but was told that it was purely cosmetic and added weight so did not spec.
If you want sat nav and stereo up to you.I put neither in.Telemetry kit was more tempting but I am not a regular and serious track day driver so did not add.
Main cosmetic on interior to consider is headliner.Standard is same fabric and colour as seat inserts which in my case would have been red.Along with the rest of the group at the factory I was with I thought this reflected a bit too much and was distracting so specced black alcantara which I'm really pleased with.
I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Lots of carbon fibre options that can add quite a lot of cost.I added a carbon fibre engine bay and rear diffuser.
Paint protection can be specced but can be done much cheaper in UK and I'm told factory option has prancing horse logos on it which sounds hideous IMHO.
All in car came in at about £220k.
This is not an exhaustive list of everything I added but covers most important items.
I thought about each option carefully so feel free to post any other questions.
I used Carrs in Exeter who were excellent.Availability seems difficult at present though especially if you don't add much.Read other Speciale threads.I had no such problems but had been wanting the car for years so was lucky to be at top of list.
ajr550 said:
Phil,I've had mine for 3 months now.Don't give it a second thought just order.The car is brilliant !
Mine is a long term keeper and I added very little because a)it is well specced as standard and b)the factory worked hard to reduce weight and most options add it back on again.
Stripe is about £7k and is a matter of taste.I went without.
Harnesses suit car and are easy to use.I've not had them before but am now a fan and am glad I added.
I also specced a fire extinguisher for Track Days.This could be done much cheaper as a non factory option but I went with factory option.
I enquired about roll bar at factory but was told that it was purely cosmetic and added weight so did not spec.
If you want sat nav and stereo up to you.I put neither in.Telemetry kit was more tempting but I am not a regular and serious track day driver so did not add.
Main cosmetic on interior to consider is headliner.Standard is same fabric and colour as seat inserts which in my case would have been red.Along with the rest of the group at the factory I was with I thought this reflected a bit too much and was distracting so specced black alcantara which I'm really pleased with.
I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Lots of carbon fibre options that can add quite a lot of cost.I added a carbon fibre engine bay and rear diffuser.
Paint protection can be specced but can be done much cheaper in UK and I'm told factory option has prancing horse logos on it which sounds hideous IMHO.
All in car came in at about £220k.
This is not an exhaustive list of everything I added but covers most important items.
I thought about each option carefully so feel free to post any other questions.
I used Carrs in Exeter who were excellent.Availability seems difficult at present though especially if you don't add much.Read other Speciale threads.I had no such problems but had been wanting the car for years so was lucky to be at top of list.
respectfully, how did they allow you to spec your car below the 250k...? even more so for an early carMine is a long term keeper and I added very little because a)it is well specced as standard and b)the factory worked hard to reduce weight and most options add it back on again.
Stripe is about £7k and is a matter of taste.I went without.
Harnesses suit car and are easy to use.I've not had them before but am now a fan and am glad I added.
I also specced a fire extinguisher for Track Days.This could be done much cheaper as a non factory option but I went with factory option.
I enquired about roll bar at factory but was told that it was purely cosmetic and added weight so did not spec.
If you want sat nav and stereo up to you.I put neither in.Telemetry kit was more tempting but I am not a regular and serious track day driver so did not add.
Main cosmetic on interior to consider is headliner.Standard is same fabric and colour as seat inserts which in my case would have been red.Along with the rest of the group at the factory I was with I thought this reflected a bit too much and was distracting so specced black alcantara which I'm really pleased with.
I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Lots of carbon fibre options that can add quite a lot of cost.I added a carbon fibre engine bay and rear diffuser.
Paint protection can be specced but can be done much cheaper in UK and I'm told factory option has prancing horse logos on it which sounds hideous IMHO.
All in car came in at about £220k.
This is not an exhaustive list of everything I added but covers most important items.
I thought about each option carefully so feel free to post any other questions.
I used Carrs in Exeter who were excellent.Availability seems difficult at present though especially if you don't add much.Read other Speciale threads.I had no such problems but had been wanting the car for years so was lucky to be at top of list.
APOLO1 said:
respectfully, how did they allow you to spec your car below the 250k...? even more so for an early car
It was never raised as an issue and no pressure put on me to add anything.Having said that I had put an expression of interest in a long time before car was officially announced on the assumption Ferrari would follow normal model progression.ajr550 said:
Also worth reading current EVO especially spec that factory brought along for Speciale track test.
Thanks AJR, downloaded and read. More support for not adding back the weight! Looking at the car in the track test, I'm not a massive fan of Alcantara, except for maybe headlining, so may have to go leather for the dash etc. I've emailed two dealers I'll be passing by in a couple of weeks time. Let's see if I get a response.
ajr550 said:
I enquired about roll bar at factory but was told that it was purely cosmetic and added weight so did not spec.
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I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Very interesting comments, particularly with regard to the lifting system which seemed a sensible option, but if its heavy ... . The cosmetic roll bar I had suspected - couldn't see any bracing in the only picture I've seen....
I was told I should seriously consider a suspension lifter if I was going to drive anywhere with speed bumps regularly.I did not because it adds a lot of weight.Having driven the car in various stuations I don't think it is necessary.
Do you have an idea how much weight is cut if the carbon fibre rear diffuser is specced? Similarly the sills?
Phil74891 said:
Thanks AJR, downloaded and read. More support for not adding back the weight! Looking at the car in the track test, I'm not a massive fan of Alcantara, except for maybe headlining, so may have to go leather for the dash etc.
NO!!! Don't do it on a Speciale. Leather?!? Just does not work on any lightweight car.
I always cringe when I see 430 Scuderias with leather.. Nasty.
Hey, its all just opinion but I do think you should find a way to appreciate Alcantara if your'e going into a speciale
Edited by giggle on Monday 7th July 18:53
giggle said:
NO!!! Don't do it on a Speciale. Leather?!?
Just does not work on any lightweight car.
I always cringe when I see 430 Scuderias with leather.. Nasty.
Hey, its all just opinion but I do think you should find a way to appreciate Alcantara if your going into a speciale
I hear you Giggle! Will need to give it some thought........Just does not work on any lightweight car.
I always cringe when I see 430 Scuderias with leather.. Nasty.
Hey, its all just opinion but I do think you should find a way to appreciate Alcantara if your going into a speciale
ajr550 said:
APOLO1 said:
respectfully, how did they allow you to spec your car below the 250k...? even more so for an early car
It was never raised as an issue and no pressure put on me to add anything.Having said that I had put an expression of interest in a long time before car was officially announced on the assumption Ferrari would follow normal model progression.Interesting.Might be a factor that I specced at Factory at the launch.Dealer arranged trip and was there when options chosen but no pressure just a sensible discussion about pros and cons of each item.Guy who runs studio there was very knowledgeable (as he should be but not always the case)and enthusiastically bought into the whole lightweight approach.In answer to previous post he was able to tell me exactly what each option added or subtracted to total weight. I found the whole experience fantastic and can't wait to do it again if I can ever afford it !
ajr550 said:
In answer to previous post he was able to tell me exactly what each option added or subtracted to total weight. I found the whole experience fantastic and can't wait to do it again if I can ever afford it !
I shall interrogate salesman on weights of various options! I am definitely a fan of light weight - am envious of the 458 Challenge whose dry weight is 70kg lower still. Normally I wouldn't consider buying new - but the way prices are going at the moment there may not be much depreciation at all, particularly if the Speciale turns out to be the last of the n/a lineage.Definitely leather which comes with red mesh inserts. Alcantara does not wear well. Mine has arrived spec is red no stripes interior is wicked with red stitching red roof lining . Outside red calipers gold wheels which is pure historic ferrari
Car looks so different to 458 Italian i have just sold!!!!!
Also drove hurracan and advent adore last week not a patch on 458
Car looks so different to 458 Italian i have just sold!!!!!
Also drove hurracan and advent adore last week not a patch on 458
APOLO1 said:
ajr550 said:
APOLO1 said:
respectfully, how did they allow you to spec your car below the 250k...? even more so for an early car
It was never raised as an issue and no pressure put on me to add anything.Having said that I had put an expression of interest in a long time before car was officially announced on the assumption Ferrari would follow normal model progression.
. Reviews have only raised expectation. EVO review makes a very compelling case for. I'm looking forward to seeing it in my spec of TDF with white NART. No dreaded yellow calipers 
went black, carbon wheel centres, carbon everywhere else except sides, charcoal alcantara, nero tex seat centre, silver seat cavallino rampante, nero alcantara dash top, no stitching to limit windscreen reflections. I've included lift, why wouldn't you. I only added what I wanted and my spec easily hit the numbers mentioned so not sure it matters either way. Ferrari at the top of its game. Edited by Camlet on Tuesday 1st July 09:34
Edited by Camlet on Tuesday 1st July 09:35
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