Is this a Ferrari specific issue

Is this a Ferrari specific issue

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Simon T

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2,136 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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hi, all, I alm looking at moving over from Aston to Ferrari, ulp! took me a while to write that biggrin

I have phoned several dealers some didn't answer the phone, all committed to call backs but were either late or have not called back at all. is this a common issue with Ferrari dealers?

I have a 2013 V12V to trade and am looking for a 430 Coupe soI would have though it would be an interesting deal, are Ferraris that easy to sell?

Simon


Edited by Simon T on Tuesday 17th June 13:00

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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It is traditional for all car dealers not to call back or reply to emails - its a simple test of how serious you are (they believe)

Having said that maybe its the trade they are not interested in (especially as it could involve cash back)

You're not the first to consider trading up from Aston to Ferrari - there have been quite a few threads here in recent months alone


belleair302

6,921 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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I would be shot of the Aston before walking into your specific Ferrari dealership or specialist and discussing a cash or part finance deal.

gmarsh

98 posts

153 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Hi, you may want to consider the independent dealers - Mr Wheeler at the well known Hindhead specialist will return your call and he is usually available 24/7. And he has a good looking, reasonable miles, 2008 F430 F1 Coupe for sale.

GG33

1,221 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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I almost bought a 2012 v12v about six weeks ago, but went for a 430 spider instead. My logic was was based on depreciation (amongst other things). Would be interested to hear why you are making the switch?

GG

rjn21

289 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Sadly, all too common. I moved from a V12Vantage to an F12 (well 2 of them), dealer very rarely replies to email, never responds to contact through their group website, direct phone calls I gave up on and eventually I got a mobile and that would be responded to. They can't be arsed, and still sell all cars they get their hands on.

andy355

1,343 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Tom hartley have a black 430 coupe. Always found them very good to deal with. I usually deal with Gary the sales manager

Simon T

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2,136 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Looking for red or sliver, or blue/ tan or cream coupe, race seats, carbon discs (preferably) F1 or manual. £70k

Reason is I fancy a change, this is my 3rd Aston smile

Simon

andy355

1,343 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Racing seats were pretty rare. They also transform the experience to something much more sporting/harsh

As to colours silver is hard for resale, shame as it looks great. Popular colours are red, black and Grigio silverstone

j3gme

914 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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fitzmoresco

150 posts

163 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Independent dealers are your best bet if P/X your AM or could do SOR if your are holding out for more £. The Ferrari Centre in Kent usually has interesting stock and they're spot on with client service, after sales care and sensible on values buying and selling. good luck

Simon T

Original Poster:

2,136 posts

280 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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j3gme said:
Yep nice car but been waiting for a call back for a day now. I am not going to beg... Its also indication of the spuport I can expect when I need help

j3gme

914 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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I bought from them 2 years ago..... communication was good spoke to a chap called Oliver Howard

Mike Brown

585 posts

194 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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It is unbelievable, almost disgustingly arrogant the way dealers treat potential customers, as the op says it is a sure sign of what can be expected when the chips are down. If I am spending money no matter how much or on what it means a lot to me a when the seller appreciates the deal in hand.
I bought my 360 from a gentleman in Hitchin who sells upmarket cars, it was a pleasure and it helps to make the car yet more special, by being more friendly and earnest and wanting the deal the seller can actually better himself. FWIW I dislike dealers generally whether it be commercial or with cars. A lot of the dealers think they are worth more than the sum of their parts. Especially most salesmen. Mike

Paul O

2,845 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Simon T said:
Yep nice car but been waiting for a call back for a day now. I am not going to beg... Its also indication of the spuport I can expect when I need help
These stories beggar belief. Man with cash wants to buy car. Salesman, presumably on commission, not interested.

How can that be? I just don't get it. I'd be like a bloodhound for cash hehe.
Good luck with your search. Hopefully you'll find a dealer who actually wants to deal!

Simon T

Original Poster:

2,136 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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To be fair there is not a lot of actual cash involved perhaps thats the issue. Will try again today

martisracing

211 posts

196 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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According to one main dealer the race seats in a 430 make it worth less (No I was not trying to sell a car with race seats, it was just a general chat). The reason is that most people find them really uncomfortable. I thought they were OK but my wife agreed and thought they were the most uncomfortable seats she has sat in. Bearing in mind sitting in everything from Elise seats to porsche sport seats were OK it is something you need to consider. Interestingly for a 458 NOT having the race seats devalues it. Ferrari is really strange and very spec specific if you want to reduce resale losses.

PhilboSE

4,748 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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martisracing said:
According to one main dealer the race seats in a 430 make it worth less (No I was not trying to sell a car with race seats, it was just a general chat). The reason is that most people find them really uncomfortable. I thought they were OK but my wife agreed and thought they were the most uncomfortable seats she has sat in. Bearing in mind sitting in everything from Elise seats to porsche sport seats were OK it is something you need to consider. Interestingly for a 458 NOT having the race seats devalues it. Ferrari is really strange and very spec specific if you want to reduce resale losses.
Interesting. I have Daytona seats in my 430 and they are the worst I have ever sat in. The headrest is so far away from where my head is that it would serve no purpose in an accident (and any adjustment I make to the seat doesn't improve things). Being 6'2" I also feel like I am sitting "on" rather than "in" the car. I was going to try and source some sports seats but maybe I need to try them first if they are equally uncomfortable.

col68

253 posts

213 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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j3gme said:
I bought from them 2 years ago..... communication was good spoke to a chap called Oliver Howard
Ollie is a good guy, Graypaul Edinburgh have a Rosso/nero race seat f1 spider, Gary is your man there ....and race seats are a must in my opinion.

Simon T

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2,136 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Spoke to Ollie today, nice chap and called me back when he said, there is a deal to be done

Simon