360 Clutch Life Expectancy
Discussion
Folks,
I have found a 360 which I look to buy this week if possible and the clutch is currently sitting 53% worn on an F1 box.
What should I expect to pay to replace the clutch on a 360 Modena?
I appreciate that at only 53% worn there is still plenty life in it yet but looking to negiotiate on the basis its far from ideal. The car will however receive a major service and belts prior to sale which is a plus.
Cheers
Barry
I have found a 360 which I look to buy this week if possible and the clutch is currently sitting 53% worn on an F1 box.
What should I expect to pay to replace the clutch on a 360 Modena?
I appreciate that at only 53% worn there is still plenty life in it yet but looking to negiotiate on the basis its far from ideal. The car will however receive a major service and belts prior to sale which is a plus.
Cheers
Barry
It depends on what needs replacing..
Just a friction and pressure plate will be between £1500 and £2k fitted depending on where it's done.
If it needs a new release bearing/ bearing flange//flywheel you could easily double it....
In my head the figure I have is £2-£3k.
MD clutches sell remanufactured units at good prices so although I can't recommend them as I've never used them they have a good rep and I will definitely be exploring that route.
FWIW outside of menu pricing it's about 12 hours labour according to the guy I use.
Just a friction and pressure plate will be between £1500 and £2k fitted depending on where it's done.
If it needs a new release bearing/ bearing flange//flywheel you could easily double it....
In my head the figure I have is £2-£3k.
MD clutches sell remanufactured units at good prices so although I can't recommend them as I've never used them they have a good rep and I will definitely be exploring that route.
FWIW outside of menu pricing it's about 12 hours labour according to the guy I use.
I've used MD clutches plenty of times for Ferrari, their products are top notch, and they use original Valeo material for re-lining. As for how long it will last, well that's subjective. Driving style and even which Transmission control unit is fitted can alter the wear pattern. Add this to the fact that the clutch wear % is just an extrapolation of a couple of figures which can vary massively and the waters are muddied further.
Price wise, replacement costs vary massively so it pays to shop around, but it also pays to find a decent garage with a good reputation, ( I've seen a few hack-jobs over the years!). As said above, once the thing is apart its likely it will AT LEAST need a flywheel skim, maybe a slave cylinder etc....
Price wise, replacement costs vary massively so it pays to shop around, but it also pays to find a decent garage with a good reputation, ( I've seen a few hack-jobs over the years!). As said above, once the thing is apart its likely it will AT LEAST need a flywheel skim, maybe a slave cylinder etc....
53% worn could mean the clutch is on it's way out or there could be loads of life left. I've seen a clutch with 90% wear come out of a car with no issues but also seen one with 65% wear slipping. What is the Clutch Wear Degree (number between zero and 10,000)?
12 hours feels a little high to me - that's the sort of figure I'd have in mind if I was doing it on my own in my garage. With a ramp and proper workshop tools I would like to think it could be done more quickly.
The time is not the only fatcor - for an F1 clutch you really need someone who has experiance in setting up the system properly, otherwise you'll be eating up the clutch and flywheel in no time.
12 hours feels a little high to me - that's the sort of figure I'd have in mind if I was doing it on my own in my garage. With a ramp and proper workshop tools I would like to think it could be done more quickly.
The time is not the only fatcor - for an F1 clutch you really need someone who has experiance in setting up the system properly, otherwise you'll be eating up the clutch and flywheel in no time.
voicey said:
The time is not the only fatcor - for an F1 clutch you really need someone who has experiance in setting up the system properly, otherwise you'll be eating up the clutch and flywheel in no time.
This ^^...it's only observation but when you read forum posts about clutch issues, a lot of them seem related to set-up problems, with many of them after a clutch change. Finding the right technician for these systems is probably the single most important thing you can do.< 12 hours Voicey.....That's going some
......I'd just be on my second packet of biscuits...MD have developed a Kevlar version so hopefully companies like them will thrive and help us owners/enthusiasts keep the costs down as these cars get older.
For some perspective on the fact that 'these cars eat clutches'. My car is on it's second clutch at 33k miles. The first was changed 3 years ago during prep for sale by Tim Walker at 24k miles and I'd guess it wasn't totally shot.
Driven the right way for 3k miles a year, you should be typically looking at 6 - 10 years of life for a clutch. It's just when you get 3 or 4 expensive jobs coming along together that you feel it.
How long's a piece of string? Even well driven, a car spending it's life in traffic is going to wear the clutch more than a motorway cruiser (obviously). If you've done 30k on a clutch then you have done well - I'd drive it until it something goes wrong and set aside a cash pot for a clutch, flywheel and release bearing. In fact it may very well be the latter that goes before the former.
Also, next time you have the car up on the ramp you can visually inspect the clutch thickness to give you an idea of how much is left.
Also, next time you have the car up on the ramp you can visually inspect the clutch thickness to give you an idea of how much is left.
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