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Hello all,I am going to fit a Capristo level two exhaust this Saturday,hopefully if it arrives. Can anyone enlighten me about fitting, I know Voicey says remove the bumper etc, but can it be fitted from below I.E if my car is over the pit at our local garage, this seems easiest to my mind. It seems like a lot of work to remove the grille and bumper. Many thanks Mike
I say remove the bumper for good reason!!! I have fitted exhausts with the bumper in place - you have to go from the top as the diffuser (which is part of the bumper) is in the way underneath. Both times I promised myself I'd never do it again!
In my experience, the time taken to remove the bumper is less than the time wasted try to reach down. If you do decide to do it with the bumper in place, remove the mesh triangle in the middle of the diffuser so you can reach in.
Another advantage of taking the bumper off is that you can see into the cats to inspect them for any damage.
Finally, if you do drop anything into the undertray the odds are you will be taking the bumper off to retrieve your folly (although I managed to find a pesky hex bit at the weekend by taking one of the rear wheels off instead).
In my experience, the time taken to remove the bumper is less than the time wasted try to reach down. If you do decide to do it with the bumper in place, remove the mesh triangle in the middle of the diffuser so you can reach in.
Another advantage of taking the bumper off is that you can see into the cats to inspect them for any damage.
Finally, if you do drop anything into the undertray the odds are you will be taking the bumper off to retrieve your folly (although I managed to find a pesky hex bit at the weekend by taking one of the rear wheels off instead).
Hi Mike,
Listen to Voicey, I have done a few step by step guides on Club Scuderia, my tip...always remove the bumper, its not worth the hassle of leaving it on to remove the std system, Its just quicker to remove it, its very easy to re-aline and you can offer the bumper up to check level and exhaust tip length and adjust easily.
T.
Listen to Voicey, I have done a few step by step guides on Club Scuderia, my tip...always remove the bumper, its not worth the hassle of leaving it on to remove the std system, Its just quicker to remove it, its very easy to re-aline and you can offer the bumper up to check level and exhaust tip length and adjust easily.
T.
Thanks very much, I thought this might be the case, I will take the bumper off, at least I can do it at my leisure in my own garage. I guess once I have removed a bumper once I will get the confidence needed to just remove as and when. I will probably use the time whilst the wheels are off for a good check over and clean, I can also try and clean the gearbox oil filter, many thanks, these forums are priceless, Mike
If you're doing it on your own and don't want to leave the back end of the car jacked up you can refit the wheels as soon as you've removed the splash guards (one at a time if you only h ave one jack). Once both splash guards are out and the car is back on the ground you can reach in behind the wheel and get to the two 13mm bolts holding the ends of the bumper in place.
The order I do an exhaust swap is as follows:
- Remove grill
- Remove bumper
- Remove exhaust tips
- Loosen clamps on silencer/cat joints
- Prop up silencer on gearbox bracket (a block of wood works well - this is to stop the heavy silencer dropping down and stressing the cats and headers)
- Undo the bolts holding the "smiley" bracket to silencer and gearbox bracket, withdraw bracket
- Lift out silencer - this is easier typed than done. You need to wiggle it to slide it off the cats whilst tipping it forward to clear the hatch catch
- Loosen the bolts at the cat/header joints (this is to allow the cats to rotate)
- Fit the new silencer in place (Tubis usually need the smiley bracket turned upside down so it is actually smiling and not frowning)
- Leave the cats loose until the final position is known
- Fit the tips and then offer up the bumper to get the final position
- Once you're happy with the positioning tighten up the silencer brackets properly
- Rotate the cats by hand until you feel they are in their least stressed position. You will feel them tighten up and loosen as they are turned
- Once the cats are in the right place tighten up the cat/header joins before tightening up the cat/silencer joints
- Fire up the engine and check for gas leaks at all the joints
- Refit the bumper and grill
If you need new gaskets between the tips and silencer I have a load on the shelf - happy to post a pair out at cost.
Also, fit new all metal self locking nuts on the bolts holding the tips to the silencer - I have seen these get shaken off in the past (again, I have some on the shelf as well as new stainless bolts if you want them at cost).
- Remove grill
- Remove bumper
- Remove exhaust tips
- Loosen clamps on silencer/cat joints
- Prop up silencer on gearbox bracket (a block of wood works well - this is to stop the heavy silencer dropping down and stressing the cats and headers)
- Undo the bolts holding the "smiley" bracket to silencer and gearbox bracket, withdraw bracket
- Lift out silencer - this is easier typed than done. You need to wiggle it to slide it off the cats whilst tipping it forward to clear the hatch catch
- Loosen the bolts at the cat/header joints (this is to allow the cats to rotate)
- Fit the new silencer in place (Tubis usually need the smiley bracket turned upside down so it is actually smiling and not frowning)
- Leave the cats loose until the final position is known
- Fit the tips and then offer up the bumper to get the final position
- Once you're happy with the positioning tighten up the silencer brackets properly
- Rotate the cats by hand until you feel they are in their least stressed position. You will feel them tighten up and loosen as they are turned
- Once the cats are in the right place tighten up the cat/header joins before tightening up the cat/silencer joints
- Fire up the engine and check for gas leaks at all the joints
- Refit the bumper and grill
If you need new gaskets between the tips and silencer I have a load on the shelf - happy to post a pair out at cost.
Also, fit new all metal self locking nuts on the bolts holding the tips to the silencer - I have seen these get shaken off in the past (again, I have some on the shelf as well as new stainless bolts if you want them at cost).
Thank you all , I will get going this Saturday, I should have new. Gaskets with the new exhaust. I will let you know how it goes. Looking forward to a decent without the rattling, I feel better now that I can remove one wheel at a time , I was not looking forward to having the whole car jacked up, voicey you are a star, kind regards Mike
Well old exhaust off, and what a state full of powder heat shield stuff and split and corroded in various places, also the bypass valves worn and rattly. So heavy as well! I am now looking forward to putting the new Capristo on, and the new challenge rear grill. Voicey you are dead right this job would be almost impossible from underneath with the bumper still on,its a learning curve for me, and I do not think I would want to do it again, I think my mechanic days are gone, I am to old to lay around and fiddle about(59 later this year)But a good chance to check everything over and have a good clean round, thanks once again for all the advice.Mike
Before you put the bumper back on, run the engine until the exhaust gets hot, you usually have to make an adjustment/retighten the clamps once it's got hot and expanded for the first time. I usually measure from the apex of the outer exhaust tip to the bottom of the grille on each side to check the exhaust sits straight. Use a block of wood between the middle of the silencer and gearbox to hold it nice and high before tightening the four bolts that secure it to the rear bracket.
Well new exhaust on and challenge grille fitted, what a difference the capristo makes, it's both a work of art and such a brilliant upgrade, the car sounds fabulous,not to loud but just so much smoother and meaningful.
Gone is that horrible rattle sound, I will not however be doing another job at home on this scale though, I used to think I would do almost anything , but not anymore, once again thanks to all, and especially Tim for the fab grille, Mike
Gone is that horrible rattle sound, I will not however be doing another job at home on this scale though, I used to think I would do almost anything , but not anymore, once again thanks to all, and especially Tim for the fab grille, Mike
Well new exhaust on and challenge grille fitted, what a difference the capristo makes, it's both a work of art and such a brilliant upgrade, the car sounds fabulous,not to loud but just so much smoother and meaningful.
Gone is that horrible rattle sound, I will not however be doing another job at home on this scale though, I used to think I would do almost anything , but not anymore, once again thanks to all, and especially Tim for the fab grille, Mike
Gone is that horrible rattle sound, I will not however be doing another job at home on this scale though, I used to think I would do almost anything , but not anymore, once again thanks to all, and especially Tim for the fab grille, Mike
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