355 Spider or Berlinetta?

355 Spider or Berlinetta?

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red_slr

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18,187 posts

196 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Probably been asked a zillion times, but I like to have the most up to date info.
Looking at a 355 as a keeper. As I will keep the car for a long time, I am thinking a Spider in manual.
This is because a) they don't have the buttress issues b) its nice to get the top down and c) it will be desirable in 30 years.
Does the great knowledge of PH agree?

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Yes its been asked a zillion times and no the answer won't change

No - buttresses are cheaper to fix than Spider roof

Yes

Maybe - any working 355 will be

kds keltec

1,365 posts

197 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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When i was on the look out for a F355 i took a few trips to dealerships,

Both said that the easiest selling variant of the 355 was GTS ,then Berlinetta,then spider.
The cars they had in there showrooms ready for sale where spiders with F1 box, some being LHD too.


not sure if thats going to follow in many years to come.

kelly




red_slr

Original Poster:

18,187 posts

196 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Cheers.
So does the roof play up a lot? From what I read its meant to be ok - but might have read that wrong.
And of course I guess in 20-30 years its not going to be easy to get parts for the roof... where as a welder and some red paint is.

jw01

84 posts

140 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Don't get put off by roof stories! I have had my spider a few years and have never had an issue. Also know a few other spider owners and they have never had issues. You just need to take care raising and lowering the roof. Yes it will cost a bit to put right if it were to go wrong but the same is true of anything Ferrari!

BobTurner

398 posts

217 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Perhaps look at it a slightly different way: what do you want out of the car, what will you use it for?

For me, it wasn't going to have to be a car that I had to use whatever the weather; it wasn't going to have to live outside; it wasn't going to be a car that got used on track; it was going to be a car used to go cross country; it was going to be car that I wanted to hear; it was going to be a car that only got used in good weather. So I bought a spider, with those criteria I couldn't see the point of buying anything else.

Yes, the roof might make me cry at some point, but, so what, the berlinetta roof isn't without fault - as acknowledged above.

Yes, despite Ferrari's protestations at the time, it might be more wobbly than a berlinetta, but I'm not going to be trying to drive it so hard that that becomes an issue - although it is, for the record, quite acceptable.

Relative costs didn't come into it for me, not that cost was not a factor just that it didn't affect my decision - I don't, in any event, really understand the premium the GTS commands.

bromers2

1,867 posts

257 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Spider - classic looks.

F355GTS

3,745 posts

262 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Keep the Spider roof maintained i.e. lubricated and topped up with fluid and it should be fine,

One weak point are the bolts for the upper rams which shear and then if you operate the roof it can bend the frame, worth upgrading these to the Hill Engineering replacements, also seat potentiometers and need Factory diags to setup when replaced

Edited by F355GTS on Saturday 1st February 16:49

red_slr

Original Poster:

18,187 posts

196 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Bob, it will be a Sunday car really. Summer use only. No track, no long trips really.
I struggle to do more than 3000 miles a year in my tin top let alone a weekend play thing.
I am looking for the right car from the start because its the only one I will ever own I am pretty sure of that.

Cheers Mark - I like the looks of the spider - but some more research is needed I think into which will be best for me.

I also like the tan leather - which seems to be pretty rare - so might be hard to find - although I guess its possible to re trim?

burblemania

8 posts

130 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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The F355, with its 5 valves per cylinder creates a colossal sound that's not far off an F1, particularly where sports exhausts such as TUBI are fitted. So for us, for whom 'speed matters' - wouldn't we agree the sound of the F355 does too? Wouldn't the Spider give the driver a better soundtrack?

Bluebottle911

811 posts

202 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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bromers2 said:
Spider - classic looks.
Berlinetta - classic looks wink

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

177 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Manual GTS with Capristo of course, best of both worlds. Lovely coupe C pillar looks and open top motoring, but some would say I'm biased biggrin.

Also not for sale at any price

Jonty355

4,423 posts

220 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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Ha my 355 spider for 6 years and never had any roof problems. It can leak a touch in torrential rain, but that could be cured with some new seals. But as its more of a dry weather car I've not got round to doing them yet!

Unless you're wanting to do lots of track driving or using it every day then I'd say Spider. Makes the drive more of an event and its so nice to have the roof down to experience the noise of possibly the best sounding car ever produced.

BobTurner

398 posts

217 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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red_slr said:
Bob, it will be a Sunday car really. Summer use only. No track, no long trips really.
I struggle to do more than 3000 miles a year in my tin top let alone a weekend play thing.
I am looking for the right car from the start because its the only one I will ever own I am pretty sure of that.
Sounds, to me, like you want a spider. smile

red_slr

Original Poster:

18,187 posts

196 months

Friday 31st January 2014
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yes

tony h

2,703 posts

253 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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spider looks better , but during my ownership the last 2 years were spoilt by a broken roof. Its way over engineered and there weren't many specialists who knew how to fix it. Mike at QV windsor was literally a life saver.
so for me its manual giallo 355 gtb

Steve12NG

274 posts

159 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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In my opinion, the best looking 355 is the Berlinetta. Utterly gorgeous, timeless lines.

The Spider looks great with the roof down, but with the roof up? Mmmm... Not so good.

The GTS looks exactly like a Berlinetta, but you can also get re 80% of the goodness of the Spider by taking the roof panel off, without losing those lovely lines.

That is why the GTS is the most desirable variant. smile

Edited by Steve12NG on Saturday 1st February 15:42


Edited by Steve12NG on Saturday 1st February 15:43

burblemania

8 posts

130 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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...yeah I agree with that, the 355 sounds better than anything I've heard including Lambos. The GTS gives arguably the best of both worlds and some people say the engine sound resonates in the cabin more with targa top removed.

BobTurner

398 posts

217 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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For balance, and perhaps this is extreme post purchase justification, the way I saw it, GTS = cracked buttresses AND wobbly chassis and leaky roof; I couldn't see the point of not doing it properly. Although Tony's post is sobering...

JasonSF

248 posts

216 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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I've had all three. And both manual and F1. Now had my F1 berlinetta 9 years. The spider roof is slow and you had to put the cover on. A lot of messing about for short trips. Gts even more hassle. Berlinetta has the best lines and no leaks.