993 boot refurb

[chrisgaia]

I have started on a winter task of sorting out my 993 C2 boot. It’s always been a bit of a mess.

Firstly screws/bolts. Years of the “unfindable battery drain from hell”, subsequent constant new batteries and 14 year old Halfords technicians have meant I have a lot missing! If some geek could possibly look at the (missing) bolt pictures below (some of which are turn screws I think). I just can’t see them on the Design 911 schematics. Pics 1 & 2: bolts to secure pump cover (for window/headlamp wash?). Pic 3: bolts to secure carpet board to bonnet latch housing/latch housing to front of boot.

Secondly boot carpet. Mine looks like your great-grandmothers un-ironed whirling-skirt, with mint imperials and cough sweets stuffed in the pockets. I need to know what the original factory carpet structure actually was, as I think mine has been altered (Pic 5). I want to replace the wooden board, mainly because I think someone cut bits out of it to make it fit in the housing at the front of the boot… but in an incorrect way. Pic 4 is what I believe to be correct: the bonnet latch housing fitting in front of the clips, then the wooden board should fit into the clips? Please confirm this is correct? Am I also correct in saying the carpet wood board should be a square piece of wood without bits cut out like mine? Unfortunately these cut outs now make it impossible to fit the wooden boards in the way I believe is correct.

The fact that the carpet is also coming away from the board means I am going to get a carpenter friend to copy the board, without the cut-outs and stick it back on. I really want to get this right. Also I noticed that there are glue marks on the back of the board?? Was the back of the board stuck down on the carpet? And what are the slits on the board for?

Finally, I plan to replace the velcro on the carpet itself by tediously unstitching the current ones and sticking new velcro on. I will see if I need new fasteners, which are available for £21 from D911. It only shows 1 for that money but presumably you get a set of them?? If anyone has any better way of doing this please share. No I’m not shelling out £400.80 for a new one before you suggest it!!

Thanks people and sorry for in-depth and complicated questions. I just really want to get it all looking nice!

Peace,

Chris

[chrisgaia]

[996Type]

The slits on the board are for elastic to hold the first aid kit I think, a modern version of which is still available from Porsche Classic.

I’ve got a full parts list if you want to DM me that might identify the missing bits. If you’ve a local authorised Porsche dealer, their parts guys would probably be happy to go through and build a list of stuff needed to make good, Leeds in my case were very helpful with the same job….

[trantorman]

while your at it, change your earth lead, you have the old style copper one which are known to fail, the updated OEM one is what you need, a trip to Porsche with your pictures will assist you or down load Porsche PET, which is free you can then look through the parts pictures and you will get the part numbers.

[996Targa]

The parts catalogue is here:

https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/c...

[chrisgaia]

Thanks that is really helpful. Would be brilliant if it was a bit more searchable.

Any ideas about boot carpets? How is the wood in yours shaped? Do you fit it between the clips?

[Orangecurry]

....you have two different photos, both labelled 'PIC 2' - what kind of a 993 owner are you?

Mine has the same cut outs in the hardboard, but your carpet looks very different - what MY/age is your car? Very early?

[chrisgaia]

Okay that’s really interesting! So maybe the cut outs are not a modification. The reason I was convinced about this was that without cut outs the carpet board would fit perfectly into the clips shown in pic 4 but with them it sits in front and is not secure. I will send another pic of carpet. Yes, 1994 C2 Cab.

[freedman]

The ones that hold the pump cover down are just the plastic nuts found all over 964/993s

https://type911shop.co.uk/epages/de867ca1-377e-432...

[chrisgaia]

Thanks I think the nuts and bolts thing I solve by going to my OPC.

However the carpet thing I am very confused. The wooden board is the issue. I have seen that some posts mention wood under the floor section of the carpet. I only have wooden board in the front section. ALso, with the cut-outs presumably standard how the hell does the carpet fit into the clips.

Can someone please take a pic of the wooden bit(s) of their carpet and take a pic of how it should fit into the clips at the front of the boot?

Much appreciated, it is doing my head in!

[Orangecurry]

chrisgaia said:

Okay that’s really interesting! So maybe the cut outs are not a modification. The reason I was convinced about this was that without cut outs the carpet board would fit perfectly into the clips shown in pic 4 but with them it sits in front and is not secure.

Your plastic vertical front/cover section shown in PIC 4 is not in the correct place? It slots into those weird metal clips at each side in a weird way. Each side goes down into the \ / shaped bit, not behind it.

I've just checked mine - your \ / shaped clips have been slightly straightened - they are not mirror images of each other, but the plastic section slots down into each side..... I'll take a photo or two..... hang on

Edited by Orangecurry on Friday 18th October 17:43

[Orangecurry]

...well this is what mine looks like anyway.... (oh the shame of the dirt showing in the flash photos)

[chrisgaia]

Thanks OC, as always you are extremely helpful. Okay so I have it wrong. The skew clips made it look like the latch housing was bending when it sat inside the clips so I presumed it sat behind. I will try again and I presume the wooden board will fit WITH the cut outs. Does yours fit well? Also is your wooden bit of the carpet like mine or is there more than one wood section and is it stuck down?

[chrisgaia]

Just thinking now…the board should be bolted on with twist screws (my bolts are gone!) so it does not need to fit into anything, I guess? Sorry this has confused me but you’ve cleared it up for me now. That was my mistake, to presume the wood fitted into something!!

[mlsporsche]

Go onto PET>>find part number>>google part number

Carpet is 99355106703

[chrisgaia]

Okay so this is all sorted now and I just wanted to close the post with the details of the solutions I found to help any future searchers who inherit shoddy 993 boot compartments or have lost the usual bolts. Please see https://www.design911.com/diagrams/d/40762/0

The boot carpet is fitted with 3 snap fasteners at the windscreen end, part 99959183617
At the sides the Velcro fits into fasteners which come as a set. https://www.design911.com/p/velcro-fastener-set-fo...
The front boards should be glued to the carpet all along it’s back (unlike mine)
The latch housing fits into the clips as shown in OrangeCurry’s post, not behind.
One bolt fixes the latch housing in place part 99950742740
Three turn screws fix the front carpet board to the latch housing parts 99959003740 and washer 99902523640

Thanks!

[Orangecurry]

Now that's the way to close a post. Part numbers and sources. Apologies I've ruined it

Just as an aside the earliest 993s had the old style carpets - much woolier and old-fashioned looking, and they changed to the close-knit version quite soon in 1995? So you could update the look quite easily, but in doing so would lose massive originality-points at any 993er meeting/show/beardoff.

ETA what colour is your car? Slate grey? Or is it silver but photos in low-light? Apologies if you've said somewhere already.

Love slate-grey....

Edited by Orangecurry on Saturday 19th October 13:39

[chrisgaia]

Hi OC, I believe I’ve got the old black one, ‘94 cab. My car is the lovely Iris blue and I have grey interior. How “grey” is the newer version (light/dark?) and is the structure the same? I have bendy board at the bottom with foam bits stuck to it but it is of course completely warped. I think I might just re-stick the carpet to the board, do the Velcro and sort the screws and bolts.

It’s going to be a busy winter as my next task is fog lights yellowing, then I am going to start properly tracking down the electrical gremlin that has bugged the car for 15 years!

No doubt your safe advice will be needed!!

[Orangecurry]

I'm neither safe nor sane.

chrisgaia said:

.......then I am going to start properly tracking down the electrical gremlin that has bugged the car for 15 years!

As mentioned above, change the battery earth strap as a first step.

[chrisgaia]

Why is my ground earth connected to the positive terminal. I’m no electrician but I thought it would be connected to negative? Excuse my ignorance 🧐