63 - 73 Sweet Spot
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How deep are your pockets?
Normally it’s the ‘S’ models - 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 that are most desirable, although the 2.4E is also a quite well regarded ‘sweet spot’.
The 2.7RS used to be one of the most sought after ‘blue chip’ classics, but they seem to have a lesser following these days and don’t seem to command the top level prices they used to. Perhaps the current market is more nouveau-riche, and those people would rather have a Singer.
Normally it’s the ‘S’ models - 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 that are most desirable, although the 2.4E is also a quite well regarded ‘sweet spot’.
The 2.7RS used to be one of the most sought after ‘blue chip’ classics, but they seem to have a lesser following these days and don’t seem to command the top level prices they used to. Perhaps the current market is more nouveau-riche, and those people would rather have a Singer.
Andyboy said:
They’re not deep enough for an RS model but I do want to get the next best thing in both engine and specification. I better start trawling through the adverts.
I know it’s just outside your age bracket, but what about a ‘74 2.7 MFI? Same engine as the ‘73 RS, but in an improved package overall. And less than half the price.a 911 R could be nice, 800kg but sadly very rare, but I guess very raw as well.
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/ferd...
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/ferd...
There are so few RHD ones for sale.....noticed that?
This one jumps out as a nice one
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1481347
This one jumps out as a nice one
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1481347
GTRene said:
a 911 R could be nice, 800kg but sadly very rare, but I guess very raw as well.
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/ferd...
That particular one is for salehttps://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/ferd...
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/porsche/911/1...
julian987R said:
lovely, good find 
I just went through hundreds porsche for sale on mobile de :-) also those from 1963-1975 and later higher up.
many lovely examples also some for say around 50k which were restored...
but most good lookers cost more, specially if you looking for a bit more power, but I was amazed that there are still a lot also original and renewed/restored for not crazy money.
today I saw a video posted in another thread about back dating and so on, which was about a big german restaurer with hundreds of examples in all states and how they restore and more, you better not look, because it will trigger you to look into porsche ads again lol.
but those there were a few hundred thousand euro's... so with that in mind, those on mobile look cheap :-) compared to, ofcourse most you can not compare, but still, you can have a lot fun for a lot less.
I also like those ST replicas when well done.
GTRene said:
lovely, good find
I just went through hundreds porsche for sale on mobile de :-) also those from 1963-1975 and later higher up.
many lovely examples also some for say around 50k which were restored...
but most good lookers cost more, specially if you looking for a bit more power, but I was amazed that there are still a lot also original and renewed/restored for not crazy money.
today I saw a video posted in another thread about back dating and so on, which was about a big german restaurer with hundreds of examples in all states and how they restore and more, you better not look, because it will trigger you to look into porsche ads again lol.
but those there were a few hundred thousand euro's... so with that in mind, those on mobile look cheap :-) compared to, ofcourse most you can not compare, but still, you can have a lot fun for a lot less.
I also like those ST replicas when well done.
That was me that posted that restoration documentary in the other thread - brilliant isn't it. I just went through hundreds porsche for sale on mobile de :-) also those from 1963-1975 and later higher up.
many lovely examples also some for say around 50k which were restored...
but most good lookers cost more, specially if you looking for a bit more power, but I was amazed that there are still a lot also original and renewed/restored for not crazy money.
today I saw a video posted in another thread about back dating and so on, which was about a big german restaurer with hundreds of examples in all states and how they restore and more, you better not look, because it will trigger you to look into porsche ads again lol.
but those there were a few hundred thousand euro's... so with that in mind, those on mobile look cheap :-) compared to, ofcourse most you can not compare, but still, you can have a lot fun for a lot less.
I also like those ST replicas when well done.
Have you tried https://www.elferspot.com/en/find/porsche-for-sale... that is a good place, as if you are looking at mobile.de then I assume you don't mind LHD. The cream of the crop is often listed on Elferspot (including those by the Early911S company featured in the documentary).
Usual answer to this question is 72/73 2.4S, but downside it that they are second to the RS in terms of value.
2.4 ‘72 Last of the chrome horn grilles/lights and external oil filler
2.4 ‘73 very last small bumper car (and 7R crankcase like the RS)
But any of the LWB cars (‘69 onwards) can hold its own in modern traffic and any of the engine derivatives will still provide endless enjoyment. Just pick your power level/budget.
SWB cars are still perfectly competent, but more towards the ‘character’ end of the classic market.
Ultimately buy on condition, not the exact model as costs on body and engine restoration can spiral rapidly if you get a bad one.
2.4 ‘72 Last of the chrome horn grilles/lights and external oil filler
2.4 ‘73 very last small bumper car (and 7R crankcase like the RS)
But any of the LWB cars (‘69 onwards) can hold its own in modern traffic and any of the engine derivatives will still provide endless enjoyment. Just pick your power level/budget.
SWB cars are still perfectly competent, but more towards the ‘character’ end of the classic market.
Ultimately buy on condition, not the exact model as costs on body and engine restoration can spiral rapidly if you get a bad one.
Koln-RS said:
How deep are your pockets?
Normally it’s the ‘S’ models - 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 that are most desirable, although the 2.4E is also a quite well regarded ‘sweet spot’.
The 2.7RS used to be one of the most sought after ‘blue chip’ classics, but they seem to have a lesser following these days and don’t seem to command the top level prices they used to. Perhaps the current market is more nouveau-riche, and those people would rather have a Singer.
This. I sold my 73RS back in 2021 as had an offer I couldn't refuse, and became too valuable to thrash about. I'd had it for 12 years, taken to the Alps, tracked it etc...fantastic car. However, no way on earth would I pay for one at todays value. They are good, but not £400k better than a 911S.Normally it’s the ‘S’ models - 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 that are most desirable, although the 2.4E is also a quite well regarded ‘sweet spot’.
The 2.7RS used to be one of the most sought after ‘blue chip’ classics, but they seem to have a lesser following these days and don’t seem to command the top level prices they used to. Perhaps the current market is more nouveau-riche, and those people would rather have a Singer.
I also agree that the noveau-riche brigade have swapped to the Singer, with its otters pelt arm rest and Kardashian backside etc, and stalled the values of the 73RS.
The whole market is way too 'toppy' IMV, but if it weren't I would secure a good 911S or SWB 65 all day long. For now though, powder dry....winter is coming in more ways than one.
BorkBorkBork said:
Andyboy said:
They’re not deep enough for an RS model but I do want to get the next best thing in both engine and specification. I better start trawling through the adverts.
I know it’s just outside your age bracket, but what about a ‘74 2.7 MFI? Same engine as the ‘73 RS, but in an improved package overall. And less than half the price.If the 74 MFI was an improved package the competition drivers would have been using them....but they weren't. 73 RS was being used in competion long after they stopped making the 74 MFI
I have a 1970 2.2T with a few choice mods which has provided me with the most enjoyable road trip I've done so far. It's not fast (it's only about 155bhp) but it's engaging and fun. I'd love to have one with a 2.7 engine in there but it's probably not worth the extra outlast. It didn't cost me the world probably because it is not all original but it's not a car I'd ever sell as it's already provided me with plenty of good memories in the two years I've owned it. If you have a large budget then go for but you can find strong runners which don't cost you the earth but offers a lot of usability. Speak to Adrian Crawford or Phil Raby if you want to source something specific. Or better still, make friends with the guys over on DDK and see if anyone has a car for sale.
I've got my 69 ex-T finally working with its 2.4S mfi motor at about 190bhp. I think that 190-220 bhp is a wonderful place. I've also added front and rear arbs, S spec brakes and slightly stiffer rear torsion bars. So an S'ish spec with a 901 box. It's mega and I love the MFI response. It goes like a scalded cat!!
julian987R said:
That was me that posted that restoration documentary in the other thread - brilliant isn't it.
Have you tried https://www.elferspot.com/en/find/porsche-for-sale... that is a good place, as if you are looking at mobile.de then I assume you don't mind LHD. The cream of the crop is often listed on Elferspot (including those by the Early911S company featured in the documentary).
ah Have you tried https://www.elferspot.com/en/find/porsche-for-sale... that is a good place, as if you are looking at mobile.de then I assume you don't mind LHD. The cream of the crop is often listed on Elferspot (including those by the Early911S company featured in the documentary).
and thanks for that link, will save it for some searches.
also some mentioning the MFI 2.7 engine, also installed so it seems in the 2.7 RS
When I searched at those oldies for sale (to max bj 75) I came across some ads saying, they had the same engine (2.7i) in their porsche 911 (swaps) as in the 2.7 RS and then I looked at the price of their cars, some around 60k euro (in Germany) and those cars looked nice, ok not all original cars, but if those engines (also 210 or so hp) are the same-ish used as in the 2.7 RS carrera's then around 60k for a nice example pre 1975 must be almost cheap :-) I guess for real collectors upgraded changed cars are not interesting, but if you not that rich as collectors can be and you just want the experience and drive it, then, who cares if its not original or number matching car?
at least thats how I think about it.
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