993 Cup II correct Centre Caps
Discussion
Hi,
I am looking to replace my faded colour centre caps with badge on my CUP IIs. Whenever I search for these I always get results with a circular ridge around outside, when mine, which I presume are original, are flat and plain with a badge in middle. Can someone give me the correct part number?
She's just in the shop having a long overdue windscreen rust repair and front end & random scuff respray. Might powder coat the wheels and get the centre caps (which are almost as expensive as the powder coating!). Obviously want the correct ones!
Also what is your experience with OEM v aftermarkets?
Thanks,
Chris
I am looking to replace my faded colour centre caps with badge on my CUP IIs. Whenever I search for these I always get results with a circular ridge around outside, when mine, which I presume are original, are flat and plain with a badge in middle. Can someone give me the correct part number?
She's just in the shop having a long overdue windscreen rust repair and front end & random scuff respray. Might powder coat the wheels and get the centre caps (which are almost as expensive as the powder coating!). Obviously want the correct ones!
Also what is your experience with OEM v aftermarkets?
Thanks,
Chris
Edited by chrisgaia on Saturday 13th August 12:57
This is what I think I have found out so far...
My 993 seems to have METAL centre caps which (I believe) are part number 92836103206TPP, £54 each at Porsche OEM Shop. As the part number suggests, these might have originally been intended for 928s?? Did they come factory fitted or were they a later addition?
The replacements suggested for 993 have a circular ridge, part number 9933613030761M which are £36.56. These look PLASTIC to me with the little holes, the ridge and the cheaper price. (There is also a concave version 993361303109A1)
Metal better than plastic, no?
These are all suggestions, maybe someone can confirm?
My 993 seems to have METAL centre caps which (I believe) are part number 92836103206TPP, £54 each at Porsche OEM Shop. As the part number suggests, these might have originally been intended for 928s?? Did they come factory fitted or were they a later addition?
The replacements suggested for 993 have a circular ridge, part number 9933613030761M which are £36.56. These look PLASTIC to me with the little holes, the ridge and the cheaper price. (There is also a concave version 993361303109A1)
Metal better than plastic, no?
These are all suggestions, maybe someone can confirm?
C4ME said:
A Porsche part number often starts with the model it was originally designed for and it carries the same number forward if used on other models. The 993 uses parts starting 993, 964, 928 and even 911. From memory my 993 came with metal centre caps but now has the plastic ones fitted (with the two holes). The plastic ones are easier to remove using a bent wire tool in the holes whereas the metal ones you need to remove the wheel and knock them out from behind. It comes down to which ones you like the look of more.
Thanks, that's useful. Are yours flat or with the ridge? Any idea what are the concave ones are for? I've gone down the rabbit hole with this now and want all the answers!!
This will already have been scrutinised back in the day, so worth a search on say Rennlist, but hey.....I've just popped down to the Wheelery to check my collection. I have a few sets of wheels, and therefore a few caps. No certainties on 'period correctness', but study the literature/photos of the time if that's your thing.
Management summary:
The original 993.361.303.xx plastic concave ones look great from a distance, and close up, and they fit into the curves of the so-called Cup2 wheel. Look at your own photos of the flat metal caps - they don't flow as well into the spokes.
The metal ones are pieces of art. They also look great of course, but flat caps do not look as at home in these wheels IMO.
Anything modern looks pants - anything with a 'ring' in it, looks pants. Your pants may vary.
Detail:
From left to right
1. replacement plastic ones - concave, made in Italy and 7PP601150 is 'ticked' on the back
Don't like these - look cheap and the 'shield' is a satin silver.
2. original plastic - concave - look great - JOR 993.361.303.11 (flash makes this appear very different, but the paint looks slightly different in texture, not in colour to 3. below)
3. original plastic - concave - look great - JST 993.361.303.05
Next photo - don't know the age - plastic with a ring - pretty flat - look nasty - JST 993.361.303.09
Next up - metal - all flat - no part numbers
No idea on age but I bought some from Porsche 15 years ago before I knew better - with ring - horrible and gawd knows what silver this is supposed to match - they also corroded rather quickly.
Old old gorgeous polished with pale gold emblem.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - obviously seen better days.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - in original boxes 928.361.032.11 TPP
Management summary:
The original 993.361.303.xx plastic concave ones look great from a distance, and close up, and they fit into the curves of the so-called Cup2 wheel. Look at your own photos of the flat metal caps - they don't flow as well into the spokes.
The metal ones are pieces of art. They also look great of course, but flat caps do not look as at home in these wheels IMO.
Anything modern looks pants - anything with a 'ring' in it, looks pants. Your pants may vary.
Detail:
From left to right
1. replacement plastic ones - concave, made in Italy and 7PP601150 is 'ticked' on the back
Don't like these - look cheap and the 'shield' is a satin silver.
2. original plastic - concave - look great - JOR 993.361.303.11 (flash makes this appear very different, but the paint looks slightly different in texture, not in colour to 3. below)
3. original plastic - concave - look great - JST 993.361.303.05
Next photo - don't know the age - plastic with a ring - pretty flat - look nasty - JST 993.361.303.09
Next up - metal - all flat - no part numbers
No idea on age but I bought some from Porsche 15 years ago before I knew better - with ring - horrible and gawd knows what silver this is supposed to match - they also corroded rather quickly.
Old old gorgeous polished with pale gold emblem.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - obviously seen better days.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - in original boxes 928.361.032.11 TPP
Edited by Orangecurry on Sunday 14th August 22:12
Orangecurry said:
This will already have been scrutinised back in the day, so worth a search on say Rennlist, but hey.....I've just popped down to the Wheelery to check my collection. I have a few sets of wheels, and therefore a few caps. No certainties on 'period correctness', but study the literature/photos of the time if that's your thing.
Management summary:
The original 993.361.303.xx plastic concave ones look great from a distance, and close up, and they fit into the curves of the so-called Cup2 wheel. Look at your own photos of the flat metal caps - they don't flow as well into the spokes.
The metal ones are pieces of art. They also look great of course, but flat caps do not look as at home in these wheels IMO.
Anything modern looks pants - anything with a 'ring' in it, looks pants. Your pants may vary.
Detail:
From left to right
1. replacement plastic ones - concave, made in Italy and 7PP601150 is 'ticked' on the back
Don't like these - look cheap and the 'shield' is a satin silver.
2. original plastic - concave - look great - JOR 993.361.303.11 (flash makes this appear very different, but the paint looks slightly different in texture, not in colour to 3. below)
3. original plastic - concave - look great - JST 993.361.303.05
Next photo - don't know the age - plastic with a ring - pretty flat - look nasty - JST 993.361.303.09
Next up - metal - all flat - no part numbers
No idea on age but I bought some from Porsche 15 years ago before I knew better - with ring - horrible and gawd knows what silver this is supposed to match - they also corroded rather quickly.
Old old gorgeous polished with pale gold emblem.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - obviously seen better days.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - in original boxes 928.361.032.11 TPP
Great reply as always OC, thanks. The plot thickens!!Management summary:
The original 993.361.303.xx plastic concave ones look great from a distance, and close up, and they fit into the curves of the so-called Cup2 wheel. Look at your own photos of the flat metal caps - they don't flow as well into the spokes.
The metal ones are pieces of art. They also look great of course, but flat caps do not look as at home in these wheels IMO.
Anything modern looks pants - anything with a 'ring' in it, looks pants. Your pants may vary.
Detail:
From left to right
1. replacement plastic ones - concave, made in Italy and 7PP601150 is 'ticked' on the back
Don't like these - look cheap and the 'shield' is a satin silver.
2. original plastic - concave - look great - JOR 993.361.303.11 (flash makes this appear very different, but the paint looks slightly different in texture, not in colour to 3. below)
3. original plastic - concave - look great - JST 993.361.303.05
Next photo - don't know the age - plastic with a ring - pretty flat - look nasty - JST 993.361.303.09
Next up - metal - all flat - no part numbers
No idea on age but I bought some from Porsche 15 years ago before I knew better - with ring - horrible and gawd knows what silver this is supposed to match - they also corroded rather quickly.
Old old gorgeous polished with pale gold emblem.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - obviously seen better days.
Old old gorgeous painted with butter gold emblem - in original boxes 928.361.032.11 TPP
Edited by Orangecurry on Sunday 14th August 22:12
So I have just checked with my guy at Brooklands Porsche and apparently...
"According to the part catalogue: 9933613030761M are from 1997 on with flat colour crested wheel centres plastic Images attached and they are £36.56 each inc vat. 993361303109A1 are from 00 on concaved with coloured crest plastic Images attached and they are £40.52 each inc vat" (both these caps have the ridges)
This suggests the ridges came in in 1997. I can't find a picture of Cup2s with the ridged one on so I can't make a judgement but I do not feel I like the ridges. The bare ones look nice and clean to me. I am not over-concerned with getting the exact ones fitted to mine. I am guessing mine came fitted with 92836103206TPP (metal, flat, non-ridged), which I presume are the ones on it now.
However I like the idea of the concave ones flowing a bit more, but for the life of me I cannot find a part number for the non-ridged, concave plastic ones. Featured above in C4ME's post. Are these ones OEM, made in Italy? Here is a link to them on Desiggn 911, I believe, but I just wanted to check the part number.
https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod21604/Wheel-Cap...
I'm guessing they are later as they are plastic. They seem to fit every Porsche ever made if you look in the 'product group'.
It's a toss up between a replacement set of the flat metals I have or these plastic concaves I rekon.
"According to the part catalogue: 9933613030761M are from 1997 on with flat colour crested wheel centres plastic Images attached and they are £36.56 each inc vat. 993361303109A1 are from 00 on concaved with coloured crest plastic Images attached and they are £40.52 each inc vat" (both these caps have the ridges)
This suggests the ridges came in in 1997. I can't find a picture of Cup2s with the ridged one on so I can't make a judgement but I do not feel I like the ridges. The bare ones look nice and clean to me. I am not over-concerned with getting the exact ones fitted to mine. I am guessing mine came fitted with 92836103206TPP (metal, flat, non-ridged), which I presume are the ones on it now.
However I like the idea of the concave ones flowing a bit more, but for the life of me I cannot find a part number for the non-ridged, concave plastic ones. Featured above in C4ME's post. Are these ones OEM, made in Italy? Here is a link to them on Desiggn 911, I believe, but I just wanted to check the part number.
https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod21604/Wheel-Cap...
I'm guessing they are later as they are plastic. They seem to fit every Porsche ever made if you look in the 'product group'.
It's a toss up between a replacement set of the flat metals I have or these plastic concaves I rekon.
Again from Porsche Brooklands...
"As far as the system says the car would have come with 99336130303119A1 in silver £43.34 each inc vat. The 00004460601 (concave, colour crest) are listed for early Cayenne’s and are £35.05 each inc vat, I do not have any images of those on our system but on the link you have sent they look ok." https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod21604/Wheel-Cap...
So in conclusion the car would possibly have come with the silver and black non-coloured crest, or maybe the flat, metal colour 928 part number that I have now. So you can basically put any of the above on your CUP2s!!
I am going to go with a new set of the ones it already has, I think. I like a bit of metal and a bit of colour :-)
"As far as the system says the car would have come with 99336130303119A1 in silver £43.34 each inc vat. The 00004460601 (concave, colour crest) are listed for early Cayenne’s and are £35.05 each inc vat, I do not have any images of those on our system but on the link you have sent they look ok." https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod21604/Wheel-Cap...
So in conclusion the car would possibly have come with the silver and black non-coloured crest, or maybe the flat, metal colour 928 part number that I have now. So you can basically put any of the above on your CUP2s!!
I am going to go with a new set of the ones it already has, I think. I like a bit of metal and a bit of colour :-)
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