Resto/Mod Backdating costs...
Discussion
Whilst I wouldn't personally drive a fluorescent yellow 911 with brown velour interior, I'm glad that someone else does and I suppose if you're going to modify something then go big or go home.
However, these resto/mod cars all look very similar to me, it's not quite boring but it is a well trodden path, the quality might vary but they're all largely the same, you either get a 964 with big arches and gold lettering, or a <G-series with holes drilled everywhere. They appeal to me on one level, there are a load of them for sale, lovely cars, a lot of fantastic engineering, £200k+.... but I'm not sure exactly what I'm buying into, it seems too close to a cliche, a fashionable fad, a Shoreditch soy latte, whatever it is, it's not really a new and exciting idea anymore.
Perhaps they've run their course, had their time, etc, or perhaps I'm just getting old, but my bog standard refreshed Guards Red 930 seems like less of a cliche and a better place to be.
However, these resto/mod cars all look very similar to me, it's not quite boring but it is a well trodden path, the quality might vary but they're all largely the same, you either get a 964 with big arches and gold lettering, or a <G-series with holes drilled everywhere. They appeal to me on one level, there are a load of them for sale, lovely cars, a lot of fantastic engineering, £200k+.... but I'm not sure exactly what I'm buying into, it seems too close to a cliche, a fashionable fad, a Shoreditch soy latte, whatever it is, it's not really a new and exciting idea anymore.
Perhaps they've run their course, had their time, etc, or perhaps I'm just getting old, but my bog standard refreshed Guards Red 930 seems like less of a cliche and a better place to be.
Slippydiff said:
Not sure Blood Orange would work well with the larger expanses of paint on the 991-992, but if you were brave enough to try it, it would be a job for Tyrone at Riviera Autobodies.
Blood works better on the “dainty” aircooled cars. Here’s an absolutely stunning example Tyrone at Riviera painted :
This colour looks so good, wonder what it would look like on a 997.1RS... Blood works better on the “dainty” aircooled cars. Here’s an absolutely stunning example Tyrone at Riviera painted :
Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 25th June 10:29
964Cup said:
I beg to differ.
Apologies, I don’t do ragtops, and I’ve always considered the widebody look unnecessary when you can cram all the tyre/wheel width you need on a 250hp car, under stock N/B arches.3.8 RS the only NA car that really needed the widebody bodywork.
I think the a narrow bodied 964 with its arches crammed to bursting with the right wheel/tyre combo is a thing of beauty. Sorry
Slippydiff said:
Apologies, I don’t do ragtops, and I’ve always considered the widebody look unnecessary when you can cram all the tyre/wheel width you need on a 250hp car, under stock N/B arches.
3.8 RS the only NA car that really needed the widebody bodywork.
I think the a narrow bodied 964 with its arches crammed to bursting with the right wheel/tyre combo is a thing of beauty. Sorry
Well, it's a 3.8 on KWV3 with a bit more than 300hp. So perhaps it can justify the bodywork...3.8 RS the only NA car that really needed the widebody bodywork.
I think the a narrow bodied 964 with its arches crammed to bursting with the right wheel/tyre combo is a thing of beauty. Sorry
I suppose this is more your thing:
Stupidly I sold it a couple of years ago to help buy another house. Who needs houses anyway?
964Cup said:
Well, it's a 3.8 on KWV3 with a bit more than 300hp. So perhaps it can justify the bodywork...
I suppose this is more your thing:
Stupidly I sold it a couple of years ago to help buy another house. Who needs houses anyway?
Nice I suppose this is more your thing:
Stupidly I sold it a couple of years ago to help buy another house. Who needs houses anyway?
Miss my old GR RS 
Prefer them on the 8” & 9.5” Cup wheels though
KittyLitter said:
PRO5T said:
really? wow I think that Strawberry looks fantastic - especially on that era of 911's
One of four cars.Here's what a faded original paint guards red looks like against a recently repainted guards red. Your screen might make it look different, but it's quite orangey, not pink. Quite a nice colour imo.
Edited by G Thang on Saturday 29th June 17:48
Other than the external backdate bodywork changes, is this a standard restored SC? For £110K. Would the same restoration of the SC without the backdate justify that price asked?
I am trying to compare the two approaches in my mind. Both ways involving a full restoration would overall cost a similar amount. What does a mint restored vanilla SC go for these days?
I am trying to compare the two approaches in my mind. Both ways involving a full restoration would overall cost a similar amount. What does a mint restored vanilla SC go for these days?
Edited by C4ME on Saturday 29th June 17:51
The backdate would require 4 new wings / quarters as well as the bonnet, rear lid, lights. When you take off all these parts, you might find a load of rust that you may or may not deal with depending on who's paying and how far they want to go.
A restoration might not get any new parts, just some patches.
In that case, the restomod would be more expensive.
However, I know a restorer who is doing two restorations at the moment, each to the spec and budget of the owner.
The restomod is not getting as deep a body repair as the car that is being restored to original. But it is getting a few of the newer parts.
The asking price will probably be much higher for the restomod if sold. Possibly that's one of the ratiionales for backdating a car.
There many variables and different standards of restoration.
A restoration might not get any new parts, just some patches.
In that case, the restomod would be more expensive.
However, I know a restorer who is doing two restorations at the moment, each to the spec and budget of the owner.
The restomod is not getting as deep a body repair as the car that is being restored to original. But it is getting a few of the newer parts.
The asking price will probably be much higher for the restomod if sold. Possibly that's one of the ratiionales for backdating a car.
There many variables and different standards of restoration.
G Thang said:
The backdate would require 4 new wings / quarters as well as the bonnet, rear lid, lights. When you take off all these parts, you might find a load of rust that you may or may not deal with depending on who's paying and how far they want to go.
A restoration might not get any new parts, just some patches.
In that case, the restomod would be more expensive.
However, I know a restorer who is doing two restorations at the moment, each to the spec and budget of the owner.
The restomod is not getting as deep a body repair as the car that is being restored to original. But it is getting a few of the newer parts.
The asking price will probably be much higher for the restomod if sold. Possibly that's one of the ratiionales for backdating a car.
There many variables and different standards of restoration.
I would find it hard not to do a 'proper job' if everything was stripped back - which I guess is where a lot of the cost goes, regardless of whether the end result is a refresh or a restomod.A restoration might not get any new parts, just some patches.
In that case, the restomod would be more expensive.
However, I know a restorer who is doing two restorations at the moment, each to the spec and budget of the owner.
The restomod is not getting as deep a body repair as the car that is being restored to original. But it is getting a few of the newer parts.
The asking price will probably be much higher for the restomod if sold. Possibly that's one of the ratiionales for backdating a car.
There many variables and different standards of restoration.
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