Thoights on a 2017 Cayenne S e-hybrid please
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My wife is after a Cayenne and has found a 2017 model in the exact colour and spec that she wants, and it’s an e-hybrid model. Last of the 958.2 models from what I can see. It’s has full main dealer history and quite low miles, can get a full Porsche warranty as well due to the main dealer service history. The colour is pretty rare and it’s the one she has set her heart on, there aren’t many other options out there for sale.
But ….. it’s nearly 9 years old and a hybrid, which to me is risky.
Any owners have any experience with them please? Mr Google suggests a hybrid battery life of around 10 years and a pretty chunky bill to replace it.
Is this a sensible purchase, or is the risk too high and we should avoid an e-hybrid of that age?
Thanks so much for any advice.
But ….. it’s nearly 9 years old and a hybrid, which to me is risky.
Any owners have any experience with them please? Mr Google suggests a hybrid battery life of around 10 years and a pretty chunky bill to replace it.
Is this a sensible purchase, or is the risk too high and we should avoid an e-hybrid of that age?
Thanks so much for any advice.
I run a 2017 Cayenne S Diesel. Unless it has got more than 125k miles you can put a Porsche Warranty on it, I don’t know what the battery warranty is though and whether that is separate to the main warranty.
You can’t put a warranty on a car until you’ve owned it for three months, if you do want to buy the car negotiate with the seller to put a warranty on it (if it is a private purchase).
Great cars, I did drive a hybrid back when we bought ours (new)…from memory the battery lasts for less than 20 miles ?
You can’t put a warranty on a car until you’ve owned it for three months, if you do want to buy the car negotiate with the seller to put a warranty on it (if it is a private purchase).
Great cars, I did drive a hybrid back when we bought ours (new)…from memory the battery lasts for less than 20 miles ?
As standard they leave you always wanting a bit more power.
A 203mm crank pulley, smaller sc pulley, software,and a bigger charge cooler rad, intake pipe and fuel pump soon has it quicker than turbos, with some lovely suoercharger shrieking.
When we got ours at 4 years old 90k miles battery range on a full charge was 18 to 20 miles. When we sold it at 9 years old 145k miles battery range on a full charge was 6 to 8 miles. By that point in ev mode it was pretty sluggish.
The battery degradation came on quickly, up until year 4 (car 8 years old) zero degrardation, exactly like when we got it.
Used battery from scrapyard was £2000 but it was a similar age so didnt trust it to last.
On that basis we have went back to diesel. Not impressed with battery longevity. Great for new buyers. Probably in the future some enterprising poles will be doing £250 battery refurbs while shouting kurva all the time but until then its russian roulette with the batteries.
A 203mm crank pulley, smaller sc pulley, software,and a bigger charge cooler rad, intake pipe and fuel pump soon has it quicker than turbos, with some lovely suoercharger shrieking.
When we got ours at 4 years old 90k miles battery range on a full charge was 18 to 20 miles. When we sold it at 9 years old 145k miles battery range on a full charge was 6 to 8 miles. By that point in ev mode it was pretty sluggish.
The battery degradation came on quickly, up until year 4 (car 8 years old) zero degrardation, exactly like when we got it.
Used battery from scrapyard was £2000 but it was a similar age so didnt trust it to last.
On that basis we have went back to diesel. Not impressed with battery longevity. Great for new buyers. Probably in the future some enterprising poles will be doing £250 battery refurbs while shouting kurva all the time but until then its russian roulette with the batteries.
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 21st September 09:28
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 21st September 09:41
OldGermanHeaps said:
As standard they leave you always wanting a bit more power.
A 203mm crank pulley, smaller sc pulley, software,and a bigger charge cooler rad, intake pipe and fuel pump soon has it quicker than turbos, with some lovely suoercharger shrieking.
When we got ours at 4 years old 90k miles battery range on a full charge was 18 to 20 miles. When we sold it at 9 years old 145k miles battery range on a full charge was 6 to 8 miles. By that point in ev mode it was pretty sluggish.
The battery degradation came on quickly, up until year 4 (car 8 years old) zero degrardation, exactly like when we got it.
Used battery from scrapyard was £2000 but it was a similar age so didnt trust it to last.
On that basis we have went back to diesel. Not impressed with battery longevity. Great for new buyers. Probably in the future some enterprising poles will be doing £250 battery refurbs while shouting kurva all the time but until then its russian roulette with the batteries.
Thank you, i am not too worried about the power as she isnt a “Mrs Schumacher” type, and drives her 718 quite conservatively, but i must admit i do love a supercharger howl!A 203mm crank pulley, smaller sc pulley, software,and a bigger charge cooler rad, intake pipe and fuel pump soon has it quicker than turbos, with some lovely suoercharger shrieking.
When we got ours at 4 years old 90k miles battery range on a full charge was 18 to 20 miles. When we sold it at 9 years old 145k miles battery range on a full charge was 6 to 8 miles. By that point in ev mode it was pretty sluggish.
The battery degradation came on quickly, up until year 4 (car 8 years old) zero degrardation, exactly like when we got it.
Used battery from scrapyard was £2000 but it was a similar age so didnt trust it to last.
On that basis we have went back to diesel. Not impressed with battery longevity. Great for new buyers. Probably in the future some enterprising poles will be doing £250 battery refurbs while shouting kurva all the time but until then its russian roulette with the batteries.
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 21st September 09:28
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 21st September 09:41
Really appreciate the feedback on the battery, that was pretty much my concern. I know she loves the colour but i do worry about having to buy a new battery soon. I do know a place in Hong Kong that supplies new hybrid batteries from China that are allegedly OEM spec and have an installer in the UK, but even they are not cheap.
Thank you again - hmmmm - not sure what to suggest she does to be honest. Get the car because of the colour or buy one thats likely to be more reliable. Ha!
Personally i wouldn't buy another right now, until there are schematics, diagnostic tools and cheap spare individual components available to allow for diy or backstreet garage pack refurbishment. Some indys have cracked it, but they are keeping the info tight to their chests so they can milk it as hard as they can until the info goes mainstream.
As soon as that happens i would buy another in a heartbeat. Probably a macan though, the cayenne is a pig in multi storey car parks for the mrs.the q5 is roomy enough inside but that small reduction in girth makes it much easier to live with.
As soon as that happens i would buy another in a heartbeat. Probably a macan though, the cayenne is a pig in multi storey car parks for the mrs.the q5 is roomy enough inside but that small reduction in girth makes it much easier to live with.
Have to disagree on the fuel savings for a mummywagen.
With somewhere in excess of 600hp on tap, the school run, shopping, swimming, football etc were all infinity mpg, plus solar and wind charging. Trips to edinburgh and back were in the 70s mpg.
West lothian to Bournemouth and back got around 40, that was around 85 most of the way. Made all the better that petrol is cheaper than diesel. My mates turbo s is lucky to get above 12mpg round the doors and 20 on a run.
When i was enjoying hear the supercharger sing and letting the bigger fuel pump do its job i could get mine into single digits though. It can f
king boogie for a big girl. Would love to experience that same tune in an a4.
Even with the battery replaced and engine back to standard it was a hard car to sell despite looking mint.
With somewhere in excess of 600hp on tap, the school run, shopping, swimming, football etc were all infinity mpg, plus solar and wind charging. Trips to edinburgh and back were in the 70s mpg.
West lothian to Bournemouth and back got around 40, that was around 85 most of the way. Made all the better that petrol is cheaper than diesel. My mates turbo s is lucky to get above 12mpg round the doors and 20 on a run.
When i was enjoying hear the supercharger sing and letting the bigger fuel pump do its job i could get mine into single digits though. It can f
king boogie for a big girl. Would love to experience that same tune in an a4.Even with the battery replaced and engine back to standard it was a hard car to sell despite looking mint.
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 21st September 13:56
OldGermanHeaps said:
Another thing that may or may not affect you is when i looked the cheapest aftermarket towbar setup for the hybrid was something stupid like 1200 quid. Apparently the non hybrid one wont fit. I wasn't paying that, absolute joke of a price.
That’s a good point, a Porsche one is over £2k ! Apparently they make a decent tow car though. I guess the decision is buy this one for the colour and spec, and keep fingers crossed, or buy a newer petrol one for slightly more money and forego the colour that she wants
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