Macan brake pads and discs
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Disks are just a matter of timing though. If you have avoided paying for them for 40 years, well done, but either the previous owner has been fastidious, or the next owner has cursed you 
3 years does seem a little short though, so would be tempted to ask the OPC for measurements, as they do tend to be a little overkeen. Not to the point of lying, but if they think they'll need doing before they see you again, they will suggest it.
3 years does seem a little short though, so would be tempted to ask the OPC for measurements, as they do tend to be a little overkeen. Not to the point of lying, but if they think they'll need doing before they see you again, they will suggest it.
edinburgh said:
My 3 year old Macan has done 20k miles and according to notification my pads need replaced. I have been quoted £1042 for rear discs and pads, is that about right? I will continue to use OPC so not wanting to go the indie route.
Id use a main dealer for scheduled servicing but get pads and disks done for 35-40% of that price at an indy.Guidance for Porsche is that, in certain situations, if you are doing the pads, do the disks at the same time. Do you need to? Probably not, but I would take a close look at them and double check. For example, one of the situations is when you need to do front disks, they then recommend rears at the same time. Do you need to do this? Probably not, but you get the idea.
As for the total costs, sounds about right. But since the Porsche dealers have a high per hour cost, you might want to consider an indie - will be cheaper, but not sure how much. Doesnt need a Porsche dealer to do this though.
As for the total costs, sounds about right. But since the Porsche dealers have a high per hour cost, you might want to consider an indie - will be cheaper, but not sure how much. Doesnt need a Porsche dealer to do this though.
randlemarcus said:
Disks are just a matter of timing though. If you have avoided paying for them for 40 years, well done, but either the previous owner has been fastidious, or the next owner has cursed you
3 years does seem a little short though, so would be tempted to ask the OPC for measurements, as they do tend to be a little overkeen. Not to the point of lying, but if they think they'll need doing before they see you again, they will suggest it.
Owned many cars from new, @ 75k miles the disks are fine. Sounds like the Porsche ones are either poorly made, or an idiot tax !3 years does seem a little short though, so would be tempted to ask the OPC for measurements, as they do tend to be a little overkeen. Not to the point of lying, but if they think they'll need doing before they see you again, they will suggest it.
bennno said:
edinburgh said:
My 3 year old Macan has done 20k miles and according to notification my pads need replaced. I have been quoted £1042 for rear discs and pads, is that about right? I will continue to use OPC so not wanting to go the indie route.
Id use a main dealer for scheduled servicing but get pads and disks done for 35-40% of that price at an indy.My 15yr old 24k miles Cayman needed Discs replacing due to corrosion on the inside faces. I can't complain though they were the originals.
Discs x4 and pads, caliper piston dampers, fitting kit all sourced from ECP / genuine Porsche from Design911 and all Brembo cost circa £370.
As I'm a mentally disturbed OCD loony (Mrs D's opinion)
I also replaced the brake back plates and stainless bleed screws from Design911 plus new hose/ abs brackets.
Removing the calipers completely gave opportunity to clinically clean the calipers and ceramic coat them.
It snowballed into hand cleaning and polishing the wheel arch paintwork and exhaust heat shields., yes...mental.. but looks like new again.
Back to reality ......in total the whole job Inc the unnecessary parts I think came to a further £210.
£580 but I did the job myself..
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Edited by Draxindustries1 on Thursday 6th October 18:28
edinburgh said:
My 3 year old Macan has done 20k miles and according to notification my pads need replaced. I have been quoted £1042 for rear discs and pads, is that about right? I will continue to use OPC so not wanting to go the indie route.
Sounds like bunk.Can you take photos of the discs and look at the pad thicknesses and post them?
Discs: take a photo of the pad face. Look for/feel for any grooves building up, you can sometimes feel these with a fingertip across the swept face of the disc. Is there a lip at the edge?
Pads: usually visible if you look down through the top of the caliper. Pads have a cutout line in the middle of them, which is a wear-line. When it's gone, it is new pad time.
James6112 said:
Owned many cars from new, @ 75k miles the disks are fine. Sounds like the Porsche ones are either poorly made, or an idiot tax !
Likewise I always change my disks with the second set of pads. You can measure them to be safe, but unless they've developed a sharp edge on the outside they'll probably be well within spec. Seems such a waste of money to change them everytime TBH!Also OP might want to check the pads themselves. Cars these days have 2 ways to check the brake pads: computer does a calculation (based on brake use) and predicts in advance, then it has a backup with an electric contact in the pad that makes contact as the pad wears down. On my BMW's I've had the system announce a brake service when they were only half worn. I just reset it and run them down until the physical system makes contact. If you keep driving without doing anything, the prediction stays at "brake pads within x miles" but it keeps showing up as a "yellow" item in the maintenance list. When the sensor gets triggered it turns to red and will light up your dashboard.
Edited by HelldogBE on Thursday 6th October 18:33
The inside faces of the discs need inspecting , they can look fine on the outer face but hiding corrosion on the inside. Rear discs really need removing on Porsche to also clean/ inspect the handbrake mechanism which use shoes on the inner hub area of the disc. A build up of rust particles combined with brake dust can have quite a negative effect on the handbrake operation..
James6112 said:
Just do the pads?
Unless it’s had a hard 20k, or Porsche disks are that rubbish.
In my 40+ years of motoring i’ve never had to change disks.
The thing is that in most cases the discs are now consumables like the pads because for several years now the asbestos in the pads has been replaced with metal.Unless it’s had a hard 20k, or Porsche disks are that rubbish.
In my 40+ years of motoring i’ve never had to change disks.
Do them yourself?
Just checking Pelican parts - I know, its the US so no real help, but they arent necessarily the cheapest here, but Porsche genuine parts disks are around $120 each pad sets are around $180 for geninue Porsche too. Can be a little cheaper if you want to go with OEM replacements (just as good) or could even upgrade (noticed that the Brembo disks are cheaper!). Could easily do all four disks and pads for around $800 and 3-4 hours of time to complete.
But personally, I would get a second opinion or check yourself if you need all four wheels with both disks and pads though. Chances are you dont, so worth checking.
Just checking Pelican parts - I know, its the US so no real help, but they arent necessarily the cheapest here, but Porsche genuine parts disks are around $120 each pad sets are around $180 for geninue Porsche too. Can be a little cheaper if you want to go with OEM replacements (just as good) or could even upgrade (noticed that the Brembo disks are cheaper!). Could easily do all four disks and pads for around $800 and 3-4 hours of time to complete.
But personally, I would get a second opinion or check yourself if you need all four wheels with both disks and pads though. Chances are you dont, so worth checking.
off_again said:
Do them yourself?
Just checking Pelican parts - I know, its the US so no real help, but they arent necessarily the cheapest here, but Porsche genuine parts disks are around $120 each pad sets are around $180 for geninue Porsche too. Can be a little cheaper if you want to go with OEM replacements (just as good) or could even upgrade (noticed that the Brembo disks are cheaper!). Could easily do all four disks and pads for around $800 and 3-4 hours of time to complete.
But personally, I would get a second opinion or check yourself if you need all four wheels with both disks and pads though. Chances are you dont, so worth checking.
He’d need an electronic obd tool capable of talking to the Porsche to release the parking brake of course……Just checking Pelican parts - I know, its the US so no real help, but they arent necessarily the cheapest here, but Porsche genuine parts disks are around $120 each pad sets are around $180 for geninue Porsche too. Can be a little cheaper if you want to go with OEM replacements (just as good) or could even upgrade (noticed that the Brembo disks are cheaper!). Could easily do all four disks and pads for around $800 and 3-4 hours of time to complete.
But personally, I would get a second opinion or check yourself if you need all four wheels with both disks and pads though. Chances are you dont, so worth checking.
Get a 2nd opinion from an independent.
Also braking items for the Macan are shared with a few VAG cars as I found using the Autodoc website (I have a 2018 SQ5 and the rear discs and pads are also compatible with some Macan's).
My SQ5 was at Audi for an MOT and they did a health check and advised that I need the rear discs and pads changing as Audi states minimum pad thickness is 1.2mm and mines on 1mm. I declined their quote and I told them I'll wait for the wear incidator to pop up on the dash.
Also braking items for the Macan are shared with a few VAG cars as I found using the Autodoc website (I have a 2018 SQ5 and the rear discs and pads are also compatible with some Macan's).
My SQ5 was at Audi for an MOT and they did a health check and advised that I need the rear discs and pads changing as Audi states minimum pad thickness is 1.2mm and mines on 1mm. I declined their quote and I told them I'll wait for the wear incidator to pop up on the dash.
20k miles for a set of rear brakes seems excessive, but I guess that's traction control and dsc for you.
However £1000 to replace them? How did they come to that figure. It's at most 45 mins work for a tech to change both on a ramp. Even at £200 per hour that's about £150 plus the parts. Are they really £900.
Brakes don't come under warranty, so buy some after market stuff and fit them your self for probably half that.
However £1000 to replace them? How did they come to that figure. It's at most 45 mins work for a tech to change both on a ramp. Even at £200 per hour that's about £150 plus the parts. Are they really £900.
Brakes don't come under warranty, so buy some after market stuff and fit them your self for probably half that.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
20k miles for a set of rear brakes seems excessive, but I guess that's traction control and dsc for you.
However £1000 to replace them? How did they come to that figure. It's at most 45 mins work for a tech to change both on a ramp. Even at £200 per hour that's about £150 plus the parts. Are they really £900.
Brakes don't come under warranty, so buy some after market stuff and fit them your self for probably half that.
I agree with all of this, my 2019 Macan S that I bought new has done 43,000 miles & not needed pads nor discs so far. However £1000 to replace them? How did they come to that figure. It's at most 45 mins work for a tech to change both on a ramp. Even at £200 per hour that's about £150 plus the parts. Are they really £900.
Brakes don't come under warranty, so buy some after market stuff and fit them your self for probably half that.
I have extended the warranty, but will take it to an Indy when they need doing as they are consumables.
My wife's Macan S was dropped off yesterday to our OPC for brakes...
It's done 41k miles and this is the first time for brakes. Well, pretty sure it's the first time as we got it about 14 months ago on 8k miles. It's now 3.5 years old. She drives it all over the UK so yes - she's really done 33k miles in 14 months! It might be going soon - she wants a van which I think she'll probably hate.
Only needed rear discs and pads - front still has a few thousand miles left according to dealer. I don't think she actually uses the brakes at all!!!!
Anyway - rear discs and pads - £750. This is including the PCGB discount which is 10% off parts only.
It's done 41k miles and this is the first time for brakes. Well, pretty sure it's the first time as we got it about 14 months ago on 8k miles. It's now 3.5 years old. She drives it all over the UK so yes - she's really done 33k miles in 14 months! It might be going soon - she wants a van which I think she'll probably hate.
Only needed rear discs and pads - front still has a few thousand miles left according to dealer. I don't think she actually uses the brakes at all!!!!
Anyway - rear discs and pads - £750. This is including the PCGB discount which is 10% off parts only.
bennno said:
off_again said:
Do them yourself?
Just checking Pelican parts - I know, its the US so no real help, but they arent necessarily the cheapest here, but Porsche genuine parts disks are around $120 each pad sets are around $180 for geninue Porsche too. Can be a little cheaper if you want to go with OEM replacements (just as good) or could even upgrade (noticed that the Brembo disks are cheaper!). Could easily do all four disks and pads for around $800 and 3-4 hours of time to complete.
But personally, I would get a second opinion or check yourself if you need all four wheels with both disks and pads though. Chances are you dont, so worth checking.
He’d need an electronic obd tool capable of talking to the Porsche to release the parking brake of course……Just checking Pelican parts - I know, its the US so no real help, but they arent necessarily the cheapest here, but Porsche genuine parts disks are around $120 each pad sets are around $180 for geninue Porsche too. Can be a little cheaper if you want to go with OEM replacements (just as good) or could even upgrade (noticed that the Brembo disks are cheaper!). Could easily do all four disks and pads for around $800 and 3-4 hours of time to complete.
But personally, I would get a second opinion or check yourself if you need all four wheels with both disks and pads though. Chances are you dont, so worth checking.
I changed my original brakes at 40k miles and the disks did not need changing but they were cheap at the time so I swapped them out. At 80k miles the pads needed changing again and I decided not to change the disks. This time, I was having some other work done so for the pads changed by the same independent.
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