MotorWerks 924 1.8t conversion kit
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I have just read up about it on the website. Sounds excellent.
The 1.8T 20 valve engine is a good choice as it was fitted to countless VAG cars. It is very strong and reliable even in standard form with a bit of remapping. I have heard of fully forged engine is running over 500 BHP without too much trouble!
Your thread just caught my eye as I usually track my my 1.8T Octávio vRS running 245 BHP and 310 ftlb of torque. The car weighs 1200 kg.
This is all with a standard engine with just a remap, bigger intake and a larger intercooler.
Are there any cars running this set up in England? That sounds like a really good track day car. After tracking rear wheel drive TVRs for some time it is a bit strange running a front wheel drive car but it is surprisingly quick.
I hope someone responds to this as it would be good to find out some real-world information.
My 1.8T.
The 1.8T 20 valve engine is a good choice as it was fitted to countless VAG cars. It is very strong and reliable even in standard form with a bit of remapping. I have heard of fully forged engine is running over 500 BHP without too much trouble!
Your thread just caught my eye as I usually track my my 1.8T Octávio vRS running 245 BHP and 310 ftlb of torque. The car weighs 1200 kg.
This is all with a standard engine with just a remap, bigger intake and a larger intercooler.
Are there any cars running this set up in England? That sounds like a really good track day car. After tracking rear wheel drive TVRs for some time it is a bit strange running a front wheel drive car but it is surprisingly quick.
I hope someone responds to this as it would be good to find out some real-world information.
My 1.8T.
The various Facebook groups catering for 924/44 often have info on 1.8t conversions. It seems very popular in the US as a kind of budget version of the LS swapped cars.
I can't say the conversion really enthuses me at all, but mainly because I've run battered old mk4 golfs with these engines for ever and although hardy, they're not in any way exciting. Although let's be honest, the original Porsche engines are no better. In fact if it's a 924 then it could be interesting.
What kind of costs are involved in the swap? I know a guy with a rather nice 924.
I can't say the conversion really enthuses me at all, but mainly because I've run battered old mk4 golfs with these engines for ever and although hardy, they're not in any way exciting. Although let's be honest, the original Porsche engines are no better. In fact if it's a 924 then it could be interesting.
What kind of costs are involved in the swap? I know a guy with a rather nice 924.
blade7 said:
rufusgti said:
The various Facebook groups catering for 924/44 often have info on 1.8t conversions. Although let's be honest, the original Porsche engines are no better.
In the US, with a relatively cheap, light yank V8, I sort of get it. Otherwise no.Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.blade7 said:
Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.Huskyman said:
blade7 said:
Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.However, I'd not mess about with a 1.8T, I've always liked the idea of doing a VR6 conversation.
The Vr offers a good chunk of torque, adequate hp, plenty of scope to make 300+hp with forced induction and a glorious soundtrack much more fitting of a sports car than the 20vT.
Don't say " because of weight" , I've swapped enough vr cars to say there is feck all difference between it and a 20vt Inc turbo+intercooler+accessories.
Huskyman said:
The 924 was a mongrel. Designed for VW, abandoned and adopted by Porsche, ftted with a VW engine. So what’s wrong with fitting a more modern VW engine? Nothing.
The 924S has got a Porsche engine. The 924 was designed by Porsche, and built for them by Audi in the Neckarsulm plant. Thanks for the skewed history lesson though. Most of the cars that get transplants seem to be baggy old sheds anyway, so no loss really.aka_kerrly said:
Huskyman said:
blade7 said:
Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.However, I'd not mess about with a 1.8T, I've always liked the idea of doing a VR6 conversation.
The Vr offers a good chunk of torque, adequate hp, plenty of scope to make 300+hp with forced induction and a glorious soundtrack much more fitting of a sports car than the 20vT.
Don't say " because of weight" , I've swapped enough vr cars to say there is feck all difference between it and a 20vt Inc turbo+intercooler+accessories.
I like the Vr6 idea more. Never heard of it done though but would love to see one.
rufusgti said:
I like the Vr6 idea more. Never heard of it done though but would love to see one.
There are a few out there, 924board, Tipec & Grassroots Motorsport forum have a few good build threads with 924+944s with a selection of engines, Vw 2.0 16v ABFs, Vr6s, Audi 5 cylinder Na and turbo conversions, SBC/LS v8s, a NA 2JZ on throttle bodies.. here is an example of a Vr6,
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=366582
And here is an example of a 20vt build for the OP
http://forums.tipec.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2...
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