A bit of advice.... Did I bag a bargain?
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Just looking for some advice fellas.
I happened to chance upon, what I think may be a serious steal but having no real knowledge of the brand / subject I'm looking to get an opinion.
I picked up, over the weekend a Gemballa GT550 Bi-Turbo for Porsche Cayenne turbo money. (£7k). 79k on the clock and it's been remapped to 650BHP. Has all the original documents and receipts from Gemballa for the conversion from Cayenne Turbo to Gemballa GT, about £60,000 worth of work but being that there's next to no Gemballa's for sale to compare it to, I have no idea if I got a great deal or not. T
he next best thing I can find online is a 54 plated Cayenne S that's pretending to be a Gemballa Magnum and the guy wants £16,000 for it and the next best real Gemballa is about £60k for an 08 plate with 30,000 miles on the clock.
Did I bag a bargain or have I taken the brave pill? I have no real idea!
I happened to chance upon, what I think may be a serious steal but having no real knowledge of the brand / subject I'm looking to get an opinion.
I picked up, over the weekend a Gemballa GT550 Bi-Turbo for Porsche Cayenne turbo money. (£7k). 79k on the clock and it's been remapped to 650BHP. Has all the original documents and receipts from Gemballa for the conversion from Cayenne Turbo to Gemballa GT, about £60,000 worth of work but being that there's next to no Gemballa's for sale to compare it to, I have no idea if I got a great deal or not. T
he next best thing I can find online is a 54 plated Cayenne S that's pretending to be a Gemballa Magnum and the guy wants £16,000 for it and the next best real Gemballa is about £60k for an 08 plate with 30,000 miles on the clock.
Did I bag a bargain or have I taken the brave pill? I have no real idea!
Crikey, just looked up what a Gemballa GT550 Bi-Turbo is, and wished i hadn't lol, that image is going to haunt my dreams!
anyways, that aside, i guess if its a genuine Gemballa then it might be worth a bit, to someone...
though not to me. I'd value a Gemballa about half what a standard car would go for, the cost of having to live with that face!
i'd guess a new Gemballa would appeal to maybe 1% of people, and a used Gemballa maybe 1% of that, so personally i'd immediately readvertise it for £28k, and then in a couple of years time, that 0.01% percent buyer will come along, and you'll turn a tidy profit.
anyways, that aside, i guess if its a genuine Gemballa then it might be worth a bit, to someone...
though not to me. I'd value a Gemballa about half what a standard car would go for, the cost of having to live with that face!
i'd guess a new Gemballa would appeal to maybe 1% of people, and a used Gemballa maybe 1% of that, so personally i'd immediately readvertise it for £28k, and then in a couple of years time, that 0.01% percent buyer will come along, and you'll turn a tidy profit.
Edited by brillomaster on Monday 18th January 09:45
brillomaster said:
Crikey, just looked up what a Gemballa GT550 Bi-Turbo is, and wished i hadn't lol, that image is going to haunt my dreams!
anyways, that aside, i guess if its a genuine Gemballa then it might be worth a bit, to someone...
though not to me. I'd value a Gemballa about half what a standard car would go for, the cost of having to live with that face!
Oh don't worry it's not the awful one with the 15 different vents in the front bumper, it's the Aero 3 version which is far more sedate. I'm not sure I could drive the former, I think they call that a Magnum?anyways, that aside, i guess if its a genuine Gemballa then it might be worth a bit, to someone...
though not to me. I'd value a Gemballa about half what a standard car would go for, the cost of having to live with that face!
I suspect you have a bit of both in an old Cayenne, especially one that's been messed about with 
As long as you aren't expecting Daewoo Matiz running costs, you should be good. If you dig through the service invoices, can you see anything relating to the coolant pipes? Known weak point - if you run bits of plastic through the V of a massive V8, maybe its a good idea to spec them properly.
If you're happy with the looks, enjoy it
As long as you aren't expecting Daewoo Matiz running costs, you should be good. If you dig through the service invoices, can you see anything relating to the coolant pipes? Known weak point - if you run bits of plastic through the V of a massive V8, maybe its a good idea to spec them properly.
If you're happy with the looks, enjoy it
V8C said:
Oh don't worry it's not the awful one with the 15 different vents in the front bumper, it's the Aero 3 version which is far more sedate. I'm not sure I could drive the former, I think they call that a Magnum?
Like this.
Definitely NOT this. I'm not in full drug-dealer mode yet.
thelostboy said:
Come on.... photos. Then we'll decide if it was a bargain!
I'll grab some pics in a bit. It's a bit dirty as the drive back was on some mucky roads.No it's not got 550BHP, it's been mapped again to 650BHP with overboost. Bit of an odd drive actually as it picks up a little slower than the Turbo from the bottom of the rev range, but when it does it hit 3,000RPM then the boost comes like a freight train and a kick in the lower back.
V8C said:
Just looking for some advice fellas.
I happened to chance upon, what I think may be a serious steal but having no real knowledge of the brand / subject I'm looking to get an opinion.
I picked up, over the weekend a Gemballa GT550 Bi-Turbo for Porsche Cayenne turbo money. (£7k). 79k on the clock and it's been remapped to 650BHP. Has all the original documents and receipts from Gemballa for the conversion from Cayenne Turbo to Gemballa GT, about £60,000 worth of work but being that there's next to no Gemballa's for sale to compare it to, I have no idea if I got a great deal or not. T
he next best thing I can find online is a 54 plated Cayenne S that's pretending to be a Gemballa Magnum and the guy wants £16,000 for it and the next best real Gemballa is about £60k for an 08 plate with 30,000 miles on the clock.
Did I bag a bargain or have I taken the brave pill? I have no real idea!
Take it you mean this car I happened to chance upon, what I think may be a serious steal but having no real knowledge of the brand / subject I'm looking to get an opinion.
I picked up, over the weekend a Gemballa GT550 Bi-Turbo for Porsche Cayenne turbo money. (£7k). 79k on the clock and it's been remapped to 650BHP. Has all the original documents and receipts from Gemballa for the conversion from Cayenne Turbo to Gemballa GT, about £60,000 worth of work but being that there's next to no Gemballa's for sale to compare it to, I have no idea if I got a great deal or not. T
he next best thing I can find online is a 54 plated Cayenne S that's pretending to be a Gemballa Magnum and the guy wants £16,000 for it and the next best real Gemballa is about £60k for an 08 plate with 30,000 miles on the clock.
Did I bag a bargain or have I taken the brave pill? I have no real idea!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202101047...
Cheap to buy but not cheap to run or fix I’d think but enjoy !
CorrosionInhibitor said:
Take it you mean this car
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202101047...
Cheap to buy but not cheap to run or fix I’d think but enjoy !
That's the one. I managed to get an extra few quid off the listed price.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202101047...
Cheap to buy but not cheap to run or fix I’d think but enjoy !
V8C said:
I'll grab some pics in a bit. It's a bit dirty as the drive back was on some mucky roads.
No it's not got 550BHP, it's been mapped again to 650BHP with overboost. Bit of an odd drive actually as it picks up a little slower than the Turbo from the bottom of the rev range, but when it does it hit 3,000RPM then the boost comes like a freight train and a kick in the lower back.
Even better (unlike my ability to read). No it's not got 550BHP, it's been mapped again to 650BHP with overboost. Bit of an odd drive actually as it picks up a little slower than the Turbo from the bottom of the rev range, but when it does it hit 3,000RPM then the boost comes like a freight train and a kick in the lower back.
Does it sound good?
Austin_Metro said:
Even better (unlike my ability to read).
Does it sound good?
Yep! The Gemballa exhaust seems to have added a few DB. It has a subtle yet responsive growl in the cabin at any rev range which is absent in the Turbo unless you really nail it. At full chat it sounds angry and has a proper roar.Does it sound good?
I'm a bit of a stats kind of person so at some point I'll do an actual DB reading on both the turbo and the Gemballa for comparison.
Hope lockdown ends some time before summer as I'll gladly take her out to a few car shows.
If you ever sold it and you’re patient and the right buyer comes along you may have a bargain. Obviously the issue as already mentioned is running costs but you wouldn;t have bought this if you hadn’t thought about that ?! Until then enjoy it and keep us posted with the ownership experience !
Edited by Cheib on Monday 18th January 13:01
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