Potential Cayenne Turbo purchaser - super tips?

Potential Cayenne Turbo purchaser - super tips?

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Richard-rwp71

Original Poster:

2 posts

52 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Hi All,

So I currently run an 2005 Audi A6 Avant, 4.2 V8 Quattro, S-Line, which truly is one of the best car's I've had. Previous cars include M3, 335D, Supercharged 318is, so I do like a fast euro wagon.

Family a desire to lug big things around now and again leads me to wanting fast estates. So as my Audi is getting on a bit in miles and age, I'm thinking of when things start going wrong of what I will replace it with, that and the two - three year car change itch is kicking in hard.

So, looking at fast estate options it seems that for my max budget of 6 - 10k there isn't all that much out there. I do like 4WD now that I've had it so would like to keep that, so that leads me to either an Audi S6, around a 2007 model, Audi Q7 4.2 TDI or what to me seems like the best bang for buck, a Cayenne 4.5 Turbo.

It seems like a lot of car for the money and the reviews of the performance, reliability and build quality are good. I do most of the work on my motors myself, so not too worried with regards to most things, and having the Audi V8, I'm ok with 21MPG average so I'm sure 17MPG won't make me cry much more.

I only average 7k - 8k a year on it, probably less, so the cost difference between a 17mpg guzzler and a something like a 30mpg diesel estate / SUV isn't too much of a concern, the fun factor is worth the 100quid a month difference! Also got an Electric Leaf for the bulk of the journeys so really can cut costs as much as I like.

So, what are peoples thoughts on what to look for, or if there is something out there that ticks my boxes of a fast estate / SUV that might be better?

Cheers all!

villageidiot

273 posts

249 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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I've been running a 2006 turbo S for 4-5 years now and love it , only issue was the plastic coolant pipes which I did before they failed , I knew when I bought the car they hadn't been done . The new pipes are alloy and eliminate any future problems ,it's about a £1K job and will leave you stranded , other than that the car has been perfect although it's only done 80k miles.There's probably not many cars that still have the plastic pipes by now . It will do 20-22 mpg loaded up on a run , as I do less than 5K a year it's not an issue , really feels well built , solid and handles better than it should for this type of car . Sat nav & head unit is quite dated ( no Bluetooth ) but easily changed for something more modern, I opted for Dynavin which retains factory look. I've heard of air suspension issues and propshaft bearings but never experienced either.

David W.

1,934 posts

216 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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What vi said ⬆️
Yes air suspension can be expensive if it goes wrong but it’s very nice to have.
Also check sunroof, tailgate, air con and other drains are clear as dampness under the front carpets causes corrosion on the wiring looms which results in many electrical gremlins. Plenty of advice on the net/youtube on this. I re did the loom joints myself.

Cimaguy

559 posts

79 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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I get 27mpg in my turbo on a run.

Local driving is 16-18mpg min.



Edited by Cimaguy on Friday 24th July 21:48

EGTE

996 posts

189 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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You should try the Panamera too, if you like estates.

The boot's a bit smaller, but it's a super-hatchback, basically.

Same chassis as a Cayenne, but obviously much lower C of G. They look bigger because they're longer, but Macan and Cayenne are both wider (and higher, obviously).

They drive damned well.

EGTE

996 posts

189 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Ooops, sorry, just seen your budget.....won't quite get to Panny yet.

Richard-rwp71

Original Poster:

2 posts

52 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Thanks for the replies guys, yes budget is tight, but i’m happy buying older higher spec depreciated vehicles as do all the work myself generally so maintenance is kept under control!

Audi is still going strong for now but will see what happens in next year!


RudeDog

1,661 posts

181 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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I've had a Cayenne Turbo for just over a year now, its a good car and extremely fast but I do regret buying it. I wish I'd gone for a fast estate (E63 for example) because I love sports cars and its definitely not that. Its a fast bus. If you are used to driving a car and enjoy that experience, make sure you get an extended test drive in a Cayenne before you take the plunge.

Cimaguy

559 posts

79 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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Estates... Yawn.

Get the Cayenne.

Cayenneand996

750 posts

270 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I have owned a 2006 Turbo S for 10 years

Things to mention are

Plastic water pipes (mine were nearer £1.8k fitted
Front floating brake disks at £650 a side (plus pads and wires etc)
Centre prop shaft bearing £850 plus for a Porsche one fitted - there are repair kits out there
servicing can be expensive for the large service

as already mentioned - head unit very dated - I went for a pioneer with apple car play at £1k

that all said, a fantastic car to own and drive, you can chip an 'S' to 586 bhp

The 'S' models are much nicer and don't date so quick - buying a low mileage car is the trick to happiness

We saw some really rough ones for sale before we bought ours - water inside (big problem as electrics are under the carpets) engine and transmission issues.

Like any car. buy the best you can afford, buy the lowest milage one you can find - oh, and buy a black one - they are fastest


jonobigblind

796 posts

89 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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I was umming and ahhhing about the Turbo but with a budget of £6k I wanted to stick to there were only rather leggy examples with some dubious history. I missed out on one good looking example by couple of days so put that to one side.

I switched over to looking at the S and found better examples as I was happy to sacrifice a bit of performance for some longevity.

I managed to pick up a 56 plate with 73k on the clock that looks like it’s done half that mileage. Outdated PCM yet everything works well and the screen between the dials is pixel perfect.

Seems very easy to work on at home, especially with the air suspension enabling some decent crawling around underneath without having to resort to jacking all the time.

The turbo would be great but check for oil pooling in the intercooler pipes - can be problematic.

Other than that, the drains are a must clear on day one, the boot struts are a weak point and the carden shaft bearing will suffer at some point (but can be fixed on the cheap).

The first gen cars have a 6 speed tiptronic and given the gearing ratios they’re not amazingly frugal on runs. I usually get 23 mpg on a long run although thanks to the long roadworks on the M4, I managed 27 on a run to the office last month (boring drive but then M4 and M25 rarely raises a smile).

Go for it, you’ll only regret it if you don’t!

anonymous-user

61 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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my mate is about to sell his 4.5T

Hes the second owner and its done 55k miles, FSH and a super spec.

Its absolutely MINT

Hes looking for 11ish though


hoppo4.2

1,542 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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i just rescued one a few months back. as i needed a temporary motor and ive always liked them. it had been stood for a few years.

as said coolant pipes- not that hard if you handy with a spanner.

air suspension pump and or leaks

boot struts fail its heavy and hurts if it hits you on tge head.

its a big heavy car so its hard on brakes etc but there surprisingly cheap.

also look out for knocking under the transmission tunnel. the prop bearings are a common failure

jakesmith

9,463 posts

178 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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hoppo4.2 said:
i just rescued one a few months back. as i needed a temporary motor and ive always liked them. it had been stood for a few years.

as said coolant pipes- not that hard if you handy with a spanner.

air suspension pump and or leaks

boot struts fail its heavy and hurts if it hits you on tge head.

its a big heavy car so its hard on brakes etc but there surprisingly cheap.

also look out for knocking under the transmission tunnel. the prop bearings are a common failure
Discs are the same on them all apart from the Turbo S which are significantly more expensive

Exboxster1

70 posts

60 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Cimaguy said:
Estates... Yawn.

Get the Cayenne.
Good man. Question. Does the lowly 3.2 suffer the same plastic pipe issue ?

jonobigblind

796 posts

89 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Exboxster1 said:
Good man. Question. Does the lowly 3.2 suffer the same plastic pipe issue ?
It’s only the V8s with this affliction. £290 in parts for the upgrade and all is well with the world (until something else breaks)

EGTE

996 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Cimaguy said:
Estates... Yawn.

Get the Cayenne.
First of all a Panamera is a hatchback.

Secondly, what's so yawn-y about having a better C of G and aerodynamics?

RudeDog

1,661 posts

181 months

Friday 11th September 2020
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EGTE said:
Cimaguy said:
Estates... Yawn.

Get the Cayenne.
First of all a Panamera is a hatchback.

Secondly, what's so yawn-y about having a better C of G and aerodynamics?
Totally agree, the Cayenne is an estate on stilts isn't it!

Cimaguy

559 posts

79 months

Saturday 10th October 2020
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Rudedog it's a tank!

RudeDog

1,661 posts

181 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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Cimaguy said:
Rudedog it's a tank!
You wouldn't say that if you saw the damage my wife has done to the wheels just by parking it rolleyes