944 S2 Purchase - Corrosion on Central Jacking Point
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Dear members,
I'm in the process of buying my first Porsche 944 S2. I want to negotiate price based on some issues of corrosion on the central Jacking point. How much would it cost to fix this issue by a professional and what is involved.
This information will help me negotiate some discount.
Thank you
Ily king
I'm in the process of buying my first Porsche 944 S2. I want to negotiate price based on some issues of corrosion on the central Jacking point. How much would it cost to fix this issue by a professional and what is involved.
This information will help me negotiate some discount.
Thank you
Ily king
If you are 944wannabe, then I am 924/944/951/968master, so take heed young padowan. If the jacking point is corroding then you need to pay particular attention to the inner sills and the area where the torsion tube mounts to the body.
The best way to do most of this is by removing the grille in the door shut / B pillar base and looking very carefully inside using a bore-scope. Outer sills aren't crucial because they're not particularly structural, but the inner is extremely important and I'd expect them to be in a sorry state if the jacking point is collapsing.
If the inners and the floor are badly corroded then you're looking at a substantial repair and that will require substantial expenditure. Even though I have dismissed the importance of the outer sills, you will still need to have corrosion here rectified too, and again, it isnt cheap.
The best way to do most of this is by removing the grille in the door shut / B pillar base and looking very carefully inside using a bore-scope. Outer sills aren't crucial because they're not particularly structural, but the inner is extremely important and I'd expect them to be in a sorry state if the jacking point is collapsing.
If the inners and the floor are badly corroded then you're looking at a substantial repair and that will require substantial expenditure. Even though I have dismissed the importance of the outer sills, you will still need to have corrosion here rectified too, and again, it isnt cheap.
It needs looking at properly, those jacking points often look like that and are perfectly sound, a good buzz over with a wire brush in a drill or angle grinder and it may come up like new. The fresh bodge seal all over it concerns me, especially as it's round the edges......
Of course it could just be a well meaning owner. But whoever did your inspection should have inspected that properly seeing as they identified it as a problem.
Of course it could just be a well meaning owner. But whoever did your inspection should have inspected that properly seeing as they identified it as a problem.
Hi Wildoliver,
Appreciate your input. The owner is now saying he has fixed the issue but is not forthcoming with details. Sounds like a wire brush job and paint over.
The company who did the inspection were unable to get the car on a ramp.
I will investigate further.
Worst case scenario, what do you think would be the cost of fixing the corrosion issue?
I can use this cost to negotiate the asking price.
Many Thanks
Ilyas
Appreciate your input. The owner is now saying he has fixed the issue but is not forthcoming with details. Sounds like a wire brush job and paint over.
The company who did the inspection were unable to get the car on a ramp.
I will investigate further.
Worst case scenario, what do you think would be the cost of fixing the corrosion issue?
I can use this cost to negotiate the asking price.
Many Thanks
Ilyas
There quite likely isn't an issue. It's very thick steel that's covered with factory underseal that understandably gets damaged and water creeps underneath. But it's such thick steel it's normally surface rust only so a wire brush, paint and protect is perfectly fine. If it's gone in to the floor though it's a problem.
It doesn't need a ramp to investigate that, the inspector should have been easily capable of checking that on a jack.
It doesn't need a ramp to investigate that, the inspector should have been easily capable of checking that on a jack.
Having just spent over £3,000 on inner sill and floor repairs to a Turbo which has perfectly serviceable (theyre a separate bolt-on part and not integral to the floor) jacking points, Id suggest that "there quite likely isnt an issue" complacency is foolhardy.
The jacking points are great, but the floor that theyre bolted to was completely f
ked from the JP outboard to the inner and inter sills.
The jacking points are great, but the floor that theyre bolted to was completely f
ked from the JP outboard to the inner and inter sills.I agree with what Ed has said above: a piss-poor effort from an inspection company that knew nothing about the cars. Sadly, virtually all 944s are fked, if you know where to look and look hard enough, and repairing them costs a lot of money.
Most 'clean' cars currently offered for sale at speculative prices will likely need £2,000-£5,000 (and maybe up to £10k!) spending on restoration, depending on the height to which your leg is lifted.
ked, if you know where to look and look hard enough, and repairing them costs a lot of money.Most 'clean' cars currently offered for sale at speculative prices will likely need £2,000-£5,000 (and maybe up to £10k!) spending on restoration, depending on the height to which your leg is lifted.
Its a pessimistic view which isnt universally welcomed, but its also based on a lot more experience than most contrary positions. It might be a sound car and it might just be the jacking point, but I dont have a deal of confidence in the people who inspected it. Look inside the sills and you will have a far better idea.
If it looks good in there then I wouldnt rule the car out - the opposite, in fact.
With regards to rising value: they are, but there is a chasm between completed sale prices and speculative asking prices in many cases.
If it looks good in there then I wouldnt rule the car out - the opposite, in fact.
With regards to rising value: they are, but there is a chasm between completed sale prices and speculative asking prices in many cases.
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